Hi,

what do you think? My current SN drives my B&W Nautilus 802. would the 200 be ok for them. Comment on 282/200 only please. I know that NAP 250/300 and so on deliver better/differnet power, but budget is tight!

Thanks

The combo 282 / 200 will clearly outperform the SN in details and precision. On the other hand, the "energy" might be a bit more shy a matter if taste

Salvo,

I doubt very much the 200 is capable of driving the 802 properly, the Supernait should be quite better for the job.
But the truth is that the 802 need at least a 300!
Regards,
Edouard

I would for sure go for a used 250, the 250 can manage difficult load better than the smaller brother.

I have B&W 804s, and I thought the 200 struggled a bit with them.

I've got a 250.2 now, it seems to do the job well. I'd start with at least this level of poweramp for the 802s...

200 punches well above its weight.

202 is a great preamp. Together, they are a very fine combination.

I own both and would be dissatisfied with a Supernait, after having auditioned one. That's not to say Supernait is a bad choice - especially if one's budget won't extend to 202/200.

Engelbert

Engelbert

282 into supernait may do it if the 200s not up to the job.

Salvo,

You could also get a 200 or 250.2 and bi-amp.

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Originally posted by cat345:
Salvo,

You could also get a 200 or 250.2 and bi-amp.

That's what I'd try.

That is what I do. 2 x 200's, great results.

Hi all,

it seem clear to me that one 200 by itself is not much use then, the problem is where can I find a used 250?

Look on Naim dealers sites.

Yeti42: Connecting a 282 to a Supernait seems interesting in my case as an incremental upgrade to pre/power combo. Has anyone tried this?

Used 250S often turn up on e-bay. If you can ensure enough power into the BWs the 282 will give a far more articulate presentation. You will then need a hi-cap of course.

I've auditioned the supernait against the 202/200, the supernait sounded great until I heard the combo when something disappeared that I hadn't noticed was there on a ~30 minute demo, call it glare for want of a better description, the combo had a hint of depth too but was "dryer"
I then tried the 200 on the SN (in place of the power section) but it sounded more similar to the bare supernait. I took the 202/200/PSC home but my wife thought it was a backwards step in turms of timbre on the Rega Cursa/Maia even though it had loads more presence and PRAT timing. She suggested we try the next step up on the Naim ladder so I've heard the 282/HC/250 at home and am heading there, initially with the 282 fed from an existing Flatcap 2x through the Maia (my speakers aren't quite as demanding as yours).
The 282 is a huge step over the 202 and as your supernait will drive the speakers why replace it all at once.

yeti42: Thanks for your insight and personal experience with the Supernait.282.HC/250 is my end goal as well.Please post your findings after setup because I think there may be more of us out there who are not quite happy with the Supernait and would like to hear what the next logical/cost effective step would be.

I listened for SN and although it's a very good budget amp it's no way near 282/HC/200 in all sonic aspects. I have never listened 282/200 though.
I think 202/HC/200 does also sound better than SN but possibly it's the same league -- I had a very quick demo of both.
BTW if 200 are not OK to drive 802 then no other preamp will make you happy -- even 552.

Thanks all for your feedback.

I think I have made my mind up: I will get a used NAP 250 and a new NAC 282. I do have a hi-cap driving my Superline, so I will use that for the time being to power the 282 and get the power for the Superline of the 250, later I might get another hi-cap for it.

All this makes it a bit expensive, so the DAC I was ready of getting will be put on stand-by for now.

Regards,

salvo

You will not be able to power the Superline with a Nap 250 but you could use the 250 with the Supernait to bi-amplify the 802N. Have you tried the Hicap to power your Supernait preamp section?

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Originally posted by cat345:
You will not be able to power the Superline with a Nap 250 but you could use the 250 with the Supernait to bi-amplify the 802N. Have you tried the Hicap to power your Supernait preamp section?

Hi,
no I have not linked the hi-cap to the SN as the superline is more important at the moment.

I will not keep the SN as i have to sell it to provide funds for the new kit ;-(