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UnitiQute 2 versus Nait 5i plus DAC for streaming from iMac

Esther ·
Hi, this is my first post but I have been a Naim user for 11 years and currently own a CD5, a Nait 5i and a pair of 25 year old B&W DM220i speakers. I have a very large cd collection and after recently moving house and as yet to unpack the Naim system I have found that I am currently listening to my music by streaming iTunes and Spotify from my iMac via an Apple TV to a temporary set up in my lounge (Cambridge Audio amplifier and small bookshelf speakers next to the TV). I am...
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USB to SPDIF benefits?

thijazi ·
I use a mini-PC for music playback (lossless, FLAC via JRiver and Roon) with the USB connection to my DAC-V1.. Now considering to move to the S/PDIF interface which means I need to invest in a good quality USB-to-S/PDIF converter, I read that this could improve sound quality due to the isolation of the PC electronic noise... Would love to hear from anyone that made that change (ie. moved from direct async USB connection to an S/PDIF connection), did this result in any meaningful improvement?
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XPS cable or not cable?

LaurentM ·
Hello all, Would someone be so kind to tell me if the XPS2 is delivered with its cable? I just purchased one for my nDAC and wonder if I need to order it separately or not. I can't find this information on the Naim website. Many thanks,Laurent
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Upgrade Advice

Oli G ·
Hi All, It's my first post here and I know there is tons of advice out there already but I have not found my exact configuration so I hope you can help me out. I am currently running the following setup: CD5xs >> nDac >> nait xs,...
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What system to get

PepsiCan ·
Hi everyone   For my current system, please look at my signature. Here's my conundrum. My hi-fi system gave me lots of joy in the last 20 years. But now my cd player broke and is beyond repair, I realised that it is time to drag my music...
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Tsvikab ·
Thanks a lot for the advice about upgrade alternatives. Just was wondering, will it be possible to connect the flatcap 2 to the superuniti, will it make sense in terms of sonic improvement? Tsvika
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

gary yeowell ·
Afraid not, the only upgrade possible is a better power amp which the SUniti can take, however you really need a Nap250.2 to be appreciably better than whats inside already.
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Edouard ·
Originally Posted by Tsvikab: 1. Get the Superuniti (replacing my pre power and ) 2. Get a Supernait and ND5 XS streamer 3. Get a Naim DAC and ND5 XS (keep using the current pre and power amp) 4. Get naimuniti 2 (this will also replace my CD5) Unless you want to uograde your current pre and power amp, I definitely won't go for option 3 You get two Dac with option 2, and one would be redundant. You have an upgrade path, adding a PS or a DAC or both... Unless you like to have a multibox...
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Re: A messy setup... and I would really want a nDAC!

Jan-Erik Nordoen ·
Hi Luca, I also have the 82/HiCap/250. I went for the nDAC and UnitiServe as an upgrade over my CDS2/XPS. And a substantial upgrade it is! I don't feel any need to move to the Supercap. Yet. I'm confident that you'll hear the difference in your room. I like your diffusors, but for optimal effect you really should train them to sit at the first lateral reflection points. Jan
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Re: A messy setup... and I would really want a nDAC!

Luca Wolff ·
Originally Posted by Jan-Erik Nordoen: Hi Luca, I also have the 82/HiCap/250. I went for the nDAC and UnitiServe as an upgrade over my CDS2/XPS. And a substantial upgrade it is! I don't feel any need to move to the Supercap. Yet. I'm confident that you'll hear the difference in your room. I like your diffusors, but for optimal effect you really should train them to sit at the first lateral reflection points. Jan Ha ha thanks Jan, I will see if I could ask my dealer to lend me a nDAC to try...
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Re: A messy setup... and I would really want a nDAC!

gary yeowell ·
Hi Luca, Before I did anything I would try to separate your boxes so that the 82 is by itself without the Hicap or Dac sat on top and give it all as much space as possible. Gary.
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Re: DVD 5 - DAC - Question about digital out

Geoff P ·
I would think that using PCM stereo as the sound choice when it is available on the disc and the stereo down mix setting when no stereo mix is available on the disc would be the best settings. I had my A/V receiver fail and go for repair recently so streamed from my BD player using the digital out into a non-naim DAC and onwards to my Naim pre amp. I compared it with the stereo analog out on the BR player and concluded ( with repetitive comparisons) that digital out into a dedicated DAC was...
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Re: DVD 5 - DAC - Question about digital out

Mr Underhill ·
Christoph, If you are using coax remember the advice is to use output 1 for better sound quality. If you use it just as a transport turn of the video circuits for enhanced output. I have made a point of buying as many PCM-DVDs as I could, CD quality soundtrack with video. M
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Tsvikab ·
ok. thx
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Pev ·
To some people - I would strongly disagree - best hear for yourself
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Tsvikab ·
Hi dzambolaja, Are you certain that the Supernait will sound better? In any case that will bring the cost up since I will also need a network player
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Joppe ·
Im not sure I would go any of your suggested ways. I would consider trading cd5, 112 & flatcap for a better pre eg 202 + dvd/BlueRay (if you don't already have one in your av setup) and add either dac+"sonos / Mac mini etc" or a ND5. When budget allows, add PS for the pre or upgrade power amp..
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

dzambolaja ·
Originally Posted by Tsvikab: Hi dzambolaja, Are you certain that the Supernait will sound better? In any case that will bring the cost up since I will also need a network player I have heard them both in Dubai recently, with Sonus Faber Cremona speakers. They both sounded great by all means, however, the SuperUniti had a smaller soundstage and slight mid-range colouration, in comparison. The SuperNait sounded less "commercial" and more "hi-fi", in a nutshell. But you need to hear them...
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Tsvikab ·
Originally Posted by Maxi Me: How about swapping the 112 for the N-172 streaming pre-amp? Hi, Just was reading about this new pre amp. The only question is will it provide significant difference over the other options
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

alainbil ·
I would suggest option 5 (source first) Mac Mini + NAIM DAC + XPS2; You may later consider upgrading the PRE.
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Tsvikab ·
Thx for a your inputs. Will probably need to demo mopie before making any decision
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Tsvikab ·
Originally Posted by dzambolaja: Originally Posted by Tsvikab: Hi, I will appreciate advice on upgrade alternatives. Here is my situation and set up. I have a CD5, nac 112, nap 150, flatcap 2 (feeding the CD5 and the nac 112). Two years ago I wanted to explore the surround experience and added an AV2 and a nap 175 amp. I found myself 99% of the time listening to music rather than movies and currently using the AV2 only as DAC (which is probably a waste of its capabilities) connected to ATV...
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

kfcc ·
Originally Posted by Tsvikab: Originally Posted by dzambolaja: Originally Posted by Tsvikab: Hi, I will appreciate advice on upgrade alternatives. Here is my situation and set up. I have a CD5, nac 112, nap 150, flatcap 2 (feeding the CD5 and the nac 112). Two years ago I wanted to explore the surround experience and added an AV2 and a nap 175 amp. I found myself 99% of the time listening to music rather than movies and currently using the AV2 only as DAC (which is probably a waste of its...
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

Maxi Me ·
How about swapping the 112 for the N-172 streaming pre-amp?
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Re: Need advice on upgrade path

dzambolaja ·
Originally Posted by Tsvikab: Hi, I will appreciate advice on upgrade alternatives. Here is my situation and set up. I have a CD5, nac 112, nap 150, flatcap 2 (feeding the CD5 and the nac 112). Two years ago I wanted to explore the surround experience and added an AV2 and a nap 175 amp. I found myself 99% of the time listening to music rather than movies and currently using the AV2 only as DAC (which is probably a waste of its capabilities) connected to ATV for music streaming. I am looking...
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Salmon Dave ·
If you're looking for the best CD transport for the DAC, the CDX2 or the CD5XS are undoubtedly going to work best, & with BNC connection. The CDX2(2) is a little better - but I didn't think the price difference was justified for me. No doubt Unitiserve is fine as well. Then I decided to change to just using CD5XS/Flatcap XS for CD purposes (as I'm using a different DAC for other purposes). I'm enjoying it. You need to listen and decide.
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

C P ·
It works very well. I got one last month for that very reason having used my N-Vi as a digital source for a long time into my M2Tech Dac (into a 282 and 250.2). Was surprised at the improvement when I auditioned the CD5XS so I took the plunge. For a while I tried it with the internal DAC (don't have a flatcap), but found that the results through the DAC were way superior. I imagine a flatcap or hi-cap would bring huge benefits to the 5XS if I was to use it direct but I don't need it. So, in...
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Felix H ·
Thanks Dave, it's good if CD5XS is not that far behind CDX2 as transport. It's hard to justify spending big time on something that still maxes out at 44.1khz/16bit, let alone for transport-only duties. Good to hear you're happy with the FlatCap setup! Thanks C P, that's also encouraging. I've tried CD5XS with the Naim DAC and also with a non-DR HiCap (although I can believe FC is more appropriate). The improvements they bring are quite different: The DAC fixes DA-conversion limitations such...
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Bart ·
Originally Posted by Fedor: How about CD5XS as transport vs NDX or UnitiServe, anybody? I'm quite happy with my CD5XS as a transport, first used with a Naim Dac and today used with an NDS. I'm not sure where'd you go with an NDX or a UnitiServe; the NDX can't play cd's, and the UnitiServe would be more "over-buying" than a CD5XS as a transport; you'd not be using 95% of a UnitiServe's capabilities if you bought it as a transport. And indeed, it's not designed as a transport. Are you...
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Felix H ·
Bart, with transport I mean here just any device that can provide CD-quality music data as digital input to a DAC. In the question I'm after comparative sound quality, regardless of whether it requires having to rip the material first or just press play. So how does CD5XS sound for you through your NDS, compared to streaming the same material?
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Bart ·
Originally Posted by Fedor: Bart, with transport I mean here just any device that can provide CD-quality music data as digital input to a DAC. In the question I'm after comparative sound quality, regardless of whether it requires having to rip the material first or just press play. So how does CD5XS sound for you through your NDS, compared to streaming the same material? I've never actually set up an a vs. b comparison. (I did at one point with cd5xs vs uServe playing from its hard drive,...
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Felix H ·
Thanks anyway Bart - The CD5XS digital feed must be pretty good if you felt it was close to the UnitiServe S/PDIF.
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

tonfan ·
I believe that as a stand alone cd player, the cd5xs is truly excellent. The DAC inside is very good and the sound you will get combined with a powerline or a flatcap or even both is exceptional. But I don't think it's worth spending all that money to use it only as a transport. I also have serious doubts about its reliability as I already mentioned to a previous thread.
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Bart ·
Originally Posted by tonfan: I believe that as a stand alone cd player, the cd5xs is truly excellent. The DAC inside is very good and the sound you will get combined with a powerline or a flatcap or even both is exceptional. But I don't think it's worth spending all that money to use it only as a transport. I also have serious doubts about its reliability as I already mentioned to a previous thread. I agree that it's a bit expensive as 'just' a transport, but purchasing pre-owned takes some...
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Felix H ·
My idea was that I'd initially use it as just a bare CDP. But tonfan you're right in that combining CD5XS with NDAC and say, XPS, with no other digital sources would make for a stupidly expensive CD player. Actually, the current NDAC is hideously expensive with ANY good transport. It seems that many on this forum have found NDX to be the best transport with it, and if I check what that combo costs in current UK list prices, with supports and Powerlines: NDX £3050 DAC £2150 2 Powerlines £930...
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Re: How does CD5XS rate as transport to DAC?

Felix H ·
...sorry forgot the BNC-BNC S/PDIF cable for the DAC. The DC1 is £250, which brings the price of the full-blown NDX/DAC setup higher than NDS.
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Re: advice needed for novice

I don't feel confident of advising you further than saying nd5xs is not (I don't think) duplicating anything. It includes a dac and looks to me to be a logical next step for you though others may have a different view. I have just got one (nd5) myself (aiming for nds ultimately) and am hoping to get a unitiserve in time - using a qnap nas drive to store ripped CDs.
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Re: advice needed for novice

MangoMonkey ·
Congrats! My recommendation would be to get a s/ h naim dac and hook up the unitiserv directly to it via its digital out.
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Re: advice needed for novice

MangoMonkey ·
To lance's point, I wouldn't have bought a unitiserv myself - I run a synology nas into a naim steamer via Ethernet cables, but since you have, I think the naim dac is your best option.
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Re: advice needed for novice

Hungryhalibut ·
You need to consider whether you want a streaming system, in which case an nd5 would make complete sense. Alternatively, you can plug the Serve into DAC, as MM suggests. Don't listen to those who say that they would not have bought a Serve - it's a pointless observation given that you now have it. I own one, and it works beautifully, with no need to fiddle with computers to rip CDs. Think about whether you want to play CDs, as if you don't, there is no point getting a Uniti. Then think about...
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Re: DAC for a chrome bumper system

Andrew Porter ·
dyxzn,having heard both the Rega and Beresford bushmaster together with 3 friends we all preferred the Bushmaster! Worth a go and if it didn't suit just send it back for a refund within a couple of weeks.
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Re: New system trials - Q, SU, SN2, ND5, DAC, NDX

Hungryhalibut ·
Great system. Two suggestions, at some point think about a better power supply for the Serve, as it makes a big difference (see my profile) and get some decent Ethernet cables to connect the serve and NDX to an Ethernet switch. Then connect the switch to the router. Before getting my SU, I had a nat02 with my olive system. I was surprised how palatable the SU's FM section is on R3 and R4, though the two channels' Hidef Internet channels are very good too - you should try them and may then...
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Re: New system trials - Q, SU, SN2, ND5, DAC, NDX

KindofBlue ·
Hungryhalibut - your rec of PS upgrade to the Serve is exactly what my dealer mentioned. I plan to let my equipment and ears settle in for a while and then will explore upgrades. Regarding FM - I had really wanted to keep my box count low, but FM is still important to me and the dealer gave me a terrific price on the Nat.
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Re: New system trials - Q, SU, SN2, ND5, DAC, NDX

Zeny ·
I'm curious about the combo you didn't try, NDX into NDAC hehe. Oh well.
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Re: New system trials - Q, SU, SN2, ND5, DAC, NDX

KindofBlue ·
Zeny - funny you should mention that. I did several other "brief" trials, including the NDX/DAC. First, the Q/DAC combo - this was more a demonstration in the extreme of what the DAC is capable of - and it was a pretty amazing upgrade. Second, the NDX/DAC - it was at the end of one of my trial sessions - so my ears were tired. I did not take it seriously because my budget was already very stretched. With that, here are my impressions. Substantial increase in black space, slightly more detail...
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Re: New system trials - Q, SU, SN2, ND5, DAC, NDX

Hook ·
Ahoy KoB - Congratulations on your new system, and welcome to the Naim forum! Nice monicker and avatar! IME, this place has been very welcoming to jazz loving pirates... Hook
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Re: Dac-V1 vs Dynaudio 1.3se...

Olly ·
Well I've had a pair of 1.3se's for nearly 10 years and still don't have a NAP250 and don't ever expect to get one. My issue with the Dyn's (if you can call it that) is they only really sing at volumes Mrs O regards as "too loud". We have our best (but not only) fun together when she is out. Don't know about the NAP 100, but I would think V1, 200, 1.3se's would be a fab system - all it needs is a U/S on the front end. A 200 driving the 1.3se's certainly won't be a problem unless you live in...
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Re: Dac-V1 vs Dynaudio 1.3se...

Plyfold ·
Until reading that my 1.3se's were going up for sale! anyone got any idea what I should be able to get for them?
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Re: Dac-V1 vs Dynaudio 1.3se...

The Strat (Fender) ·
A NAP 200 will do it - no problem - just not sure was the NAP 100 is capable of - just needs a demo.
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Re: NDX into DAC V1

DavidDever ·
Originally Posted by analogmusic: You're in the lucky position of owning both have you tried the side by side into same amp and speakers? how do they compare? I am not so lucky - I only own the V1. Originally Posted by Cayman: Would it make sense to connect a NDX to a DAC V1 for better soundquality, or is the dac section of the NDX the better one? At least you have the option to plumb a USB connection into the DAC-V1 - and it's not a bad-sounding DAC by any means (backhanded praise not...
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