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Unity Qute 2 speaker cable

Paristhea ·
I am about to purchase a unity qute 2.    I like to ask if i do need to use the Naim Nac A5 cable and more importantly if it has to be 3.5m long each side?   Regards,
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What NAC input for streamers

Rocker1 ·
Hi, what input is the best to use for streamers? E.g. NDX into NAC 282. Thanks.
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WARNING: major trouble with streaming firmware update 4.1

gerdh ·
I updated my NAC 172 XS to firmware 4.1 to get spotify connect.   The consequences for my iOS Naim apps are catastrophic: 1. i cannot switch input anymore - the buttons light up on touch but do nothing 2. I cannot play upnp tracks or albums...
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Volume of NAC 202 by n-stream through NDX

oliverdubai ·
Dear All, I've spent quite some time now to find an answer to my question in other posts but I am still not seeing clear.Can someone kindly give me a step-by-step instruction for the following: I want to be able to control the volume (up,...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Andrew Porter ·
I had the 102/180 combination for many years and was completely happy with it although many on here will tell you to get a 72 instead of the 102....(huge can of worms!!) I did, for a while feed them with an Arcam 72 cdp and also a cd3 which I thought was better,then later cd5x/fc2x which was much much better! Good used example unserviced should go for about £400 for nap and £450 for the 102 with a napsc. Factor in a service of about £300 for both. I really wouldnt pay more than that for...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Frank Abela ·
The 102 was a very good preamp but reckoned to be a touch bright. It can be improved with the (relatively inexpensive) addition of a NAPSC or NAPSC2 which powers just the digital control electronics (basically the front controls). The 102 is remote controlled and can take 5-series phono boards (the same as were used in everything from the 92 up to the 52). If memory serves, the 102's phono connections for record deck are BNC so you would need phono-BNC adaptors from Maplin or reterminate...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

AdamN ·
Andrew, Frank, many thanks for your input and it's given me a lot to think about!
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Alco ·
I went from 72/180 to 102/180 some 8 years ago I think. I really liked the 102/180 and prefered it to the 72/180. (which was very nice already) The 102/180 was a bit more forward sounding but also slightly more open/transparent, if memory serves me well. The 72 was a little smoother. regards, Alco
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

PerF ·
Originally Posted by AdamN: Initially I had thought to move from my existing Arcam A22 to either the Nait 3 or the 90/92 as a first step. This would allow me [prices willing] to have the Naim while also the Arcam. Now I'm not so sure and was considering selling the A22, squeezing my bank account and looking for the NAC 102 and NAP 180 in combination. Can anyone advise on this particular combination, performance, sound if possible in comparison to Nait and Arcam and in using an Arcam DVD...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Gale 401 ·
+1 to what Richard has said above. Also if you are looking at buying from evil bay and not from a good naim dealer(That by the way would be the best way to go) Check no one has been inside and messed with the boxes. Stu.
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

naim_nymph ·
Originally Posted by AdamN: So after a lot of faffing I've narrowed down my options, but I'm going to have to tighten my belt for a few weeks. It seems to be boiling down to a 102/180 however I've pretty much fallen in love with a chrome bumper 62/140, but purely on grounds of aesthetics. How do each of these respective combinations stack up and can anyone let me know a fair market value for each pair so I know what to shoot for when it comes round to the next payday! So the full width...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

AdamN ·
Perfect thanks, wish me luck...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

joerand ·
Originally Posted by AdamN: Perfect thanks, wish me luck... Good luck Herve, doh, I mean Adam!
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AdamN ·
Richard I notice in a previous thread that you said you owned this combo. I do love the Chrome Bumper models, in your opinion is there a vast audible difference between this or say the 62/140 and the 72/140 ?
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

AdamN ·
Well I've bought a recently serviced Naim NAC 42.5, the cheque is in the post, I wait with baited breath. I now for a matching NAP110. What should I expect to pay for these rather seemingly rare creatures?
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Richard Dane ·
NAP110s start around £200 up to £400 for a just Naim serviced unit. Plenty about on the 'net so I see. Shouldn't be at all hard to find one.
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AdamN ·
Perfect, thanks.
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AdamN ·
I'm just wondering, a recently serviced NAP90 vs an unserviced NAP110?
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Richard Dane ·
A NAP90 is fine, a NAP110 better. It's remarkable how long lived the main caps can be inside the NAP110 - quite a few that used to come through Naim's service dept. were found to still be OK. I'd look to spend around £250 on a nice NAP110. Plenty about for that price - I've seen at least three for sale online in the last couple of days. A good price - I've seen them go for much more on certain auction sites. Use it and then save up for a service at a later date. My own NAP110 is still on old...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

AdamN ·
So after a lot of faffing I've narrowed down my options, but I'm going to have to tighten my belt for a few weeks. It seems to be boiling down to a 102/180 however I've pretty much fallen in love with a chrome bumper 62/140, but purely on grounds of aesthetics. How do each of these respective combinations stack up and can anyone let me know a fair market value for each pair so I know what to shoot for when it comes round to the next payday!
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Richard Dane ·
Chrome Bumper prices can vary but seem to be creeping up a bit - figure on around £500 for a nice NAC62 + NAP140. For the NAC102 + NAP180 you'll be getting close to double that, but you might also be able to get a NAPSC in the deal, which is most worthwhile. Check with Naim's service department for current service estimates on these. If they haven't been serviced within the last 10 years or so, figure on getting this done.
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AdamN ·
A slight curve ball , but what about a chrome bumper Nait 2 ? I now have a hankering for one!!!
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naim_nymph ·
Nait 2’s are highly desirable so hold their value well. I’m not sure how much they cost these days but would guess around £400 ish for something clean, cosmetically very good, and not tampered with internally. Many are probably un-serviced so maybe the need to factor in another couple of hundred quit for this too. The Nait 2 is a wonderful little amp, back in the 90’s at a naim demo we had a quick demo of a nait 2 that was plugged in between a CDS player and a pair of SBL’s, the 30+ people...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Julian H ·
Originally Posted by naim_nymph: and not tampered with internally Hi Debs That is a major concern these days IMO. Of course, people can do what they like with their own kit. Its their choice, although understandably, Naim do not what that discussed here! As long as tampering is declared at sale then this is also fine. Its the minority that think they returned the kit to "original" and don't declare it as being faffed with worries me! Julian
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naim_nymph ·
Julian, We need a law against tampering… "You have been found guilty of contravening the audiophile molestation act of 2013 and are hereby sentenced to 20 lashes of terminated naca9 lives cable"! Can't beat a good flogging, as they say on ebay : ) Debs
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Richard Dane ·
Adam, yes, there was a Chrome Bumper Nait 2. The changeover to the olive styling came soon after the Nait 2 was introduced so the chrome bumper version is much the rarest of them. This my own unit, fully rebuilt by Naim last year; It sounds wonderful - within limits of ultimate volume, authority, and speaker difficulty. The NAP90 was developed with the NAIT2 and they share much in common, albeit the NAP90 has more power. It's a nice amp too but a NAP110 or NAP140 are appreciably more...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

AdamN ·
I have Hi Fi envy Richard!
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

naim_nymph ·
Originally Posted by Andrew Porter: many on here will tell you to get a 72 instead of the 102.... People like me you mean?
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

naim_nymph ·
Originally Posted by AdamN: Now I'm not so sure and was considering selling the A22, squeezing my bank account and looking for the NAC 102 and NAP 180 in combination. The 72 + 180 is a fabulous combination! : ) Include a hicap [perhaps latter when funds allow] and things will improve even further. This is a very safe option if you can’t audition the components before committing to a purchase. A 102 will be more expensive to buy, and although they do widen the frequency window further than a...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

AdamN ·
Thanks for the alternatives, I was in particular looking for a full width system, no reason other than aesthetics. It does present a tricky problem as I'm effectively buying blind and have no idea how they would work with my own speakers. However I'm leaning towards the combination of 102 and 180 rather than 90 and 92 as I wouldn't really want to change for some time, that said if it sounds awful with my speakers I might rapidly want to change! Don't suppose there is anyone near Thame in...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

HiFiman ·
Also consider the 152xs/155xs there are bargins out there plus these wont require any servicing.
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Hungryhalibut ·
The 102/180 is really very fine, and was a big step up from the 122x/150x I had before. That in turn was way better than a Nait 5i, so draw your own conclusions. The amp, if serviced, will soldier on for years. I sold my serviced 180 for £500. A 102 with napsc can be had for £400, and servicing is not so critical with these. So for £900 you'll get an amp that beats the pants off a 5i. Pick up a CDX for £650 at some point and you will be laughing.
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Faux75 ·
Originally Posted by Lord Emsworth: The 102/180 is really very fine, and was a big step up from the 122x/150x I had before. That in turn was way better than a Nait 5i, so draw your own conclusions. The amp, if serviced, will soldier on for years. I sold my serviced 180 for £500. A 102 with napsc can be had for £400, and servicing is not so critical with these. So for £900 you'll get an amp that beats the pants off a 5i. Pick up a CDX for £650 at some point and you will be laughing. Or CD3.5...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Hungryhalibut ·
Originally Posted by Faux75: Originally Posted by Lord Emsworth: The 102/180 is really very fine, and was a big step up from the 122x/150x I had before. That in turn was way better than a Nait 5i, so draw your own conclusions. The amp, if serviced, will soldier on for years. I sold my serviced 180 for £500. A 102 with napsc can be had for £400, and servicing is not so critical with these. So for £900 you'll get an amp that beats the pants off a 5i. Pick up a CDX for £650 at some point and...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Jan-Erik Nordoen ·
Originally Posted by Lord Emsworth: The 102/180 is really very fine, and was a big step up from the 122x/150x I had before. That in turn was way better than a Nait 5i, so draw your own conclusions. The amp, if serviced, will soldier on for years. I sold my serviced 180 for £500. A 102 with napsc can be had for £400, and servicing is not so critical with these. So for £900 you'll get an amp that beats the pants off a 5i. Pick up a CDX for £650 at some point and you will be laughing. I beg to...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Hungryhalibut ·
Originally Posted by Jan-Erik Nordoen: Originally Posted by Lord Emsworth: The 102/180 is really very fine, and was a big step up from the 122x/150x I had before. That in turn was way better than a Nait 5i, so draw your own conclusions. The amp, if serviced, will soldier on for years. I sold my serviced 180 for £500. A 102 with napsc can be had for £400, and servicing is not so critical with these. So for £900 you'll get an amp that beats the pants off a 5i. Pick up a CDX for £650 at some...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

Jan-Erik Nordoen ·
Woops, brain freeze (it's - 27 C here). Still, for an extra £100 he could get the UnitiLite. Jan
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Faux75 ·
i have a Uniti which I think is amazing but I enjoy the 102/180 as much. They are too different to compare fairly. Upnp on the Uniti and vinyl and cd on the Olive.
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Faux75 ·
I went from a 90/92 to the 180/102 and it was a massive change. So much more detail and bass extension. I have since added a napsc and third party power supply and it is really musical and I can't help tapping my feet to it now. My full system includes an LP12 and CD3.5 and enjoy both of them with this combination. The Olive equipment is very different from the newer black boxes but they each have their pros and cons. I have both and enjoy both for different reasons. I don't think you will...
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Re: Naim NAC 102 NAP 180

AdamN ·
I use my own full range speakers with the Jordan / EAD drivers in a dual reflex enclosure, and upholstered in Paul Smith fabric! Out of interest and if you can answer, what difference in sound could I expect moving form the Arcam A22 to the 90/92 ?
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Hungryhalibut ·
What wonderful speakers!! Definitely a business opportunity there.
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AdamN ·
I've tried but alas it requires investment and effort but thank you for your kind words.
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Hungryhalibut ·
Such wonderful speakers deserve a 102/180 no question! If you want to hear an 82/250, you are most welcome to visit the ancestral seat.
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SKDriver ·
Oh by the way Adam, I'm near Wallingford. 202 not 102 I'm afraid...
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AdamN ·
Such wonderful speakers deserve a 102/180 no question! If you want to hear an 82/250, you are most welcome to visit the ancestral seat. LOL that's really kind, I'd love to know what they sound like with Naim amplification for sure, and I haven't yet finished tinkering with them to get the best out.
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AdamN ·
Oh by the way Adam, I'm near Wallingford. 202 not 102 I'm afraid... I'm Thame so just down the road!
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SKDriver ·
I had a NAC 102 with a NAP 140 in a previous system that I had for about 9 years. It was used with my current Dynaudios, which suited the amps perfectly. The Olive amps are a different beast to the current Classic series which are smoother and less forward. Sometimes regret getting rid of my 102/140 if I'm honest, but the newer stuff gives a more rounded and polished presentation that I can listen to for longer... You are more than welcome to try your amazing looking speakers on the end of...
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SKDriver ·
I think the Paul Smith special editions are more 'wife friendly'; soft furnishings/fabrics etc etc!
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PerF ·
His DVD source will provide a unbalanced setup better get a lower amp along a better source end
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peter bj ·
Think I remember seeing those speakers at NAS and a shame you have not been able to get enough backing , I also really liked the paul smith
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