Calling Andy C , can you comment ?
Posted by: marco5 on 30 December 2004
I am very interested with your comments on Kimber/Chord/Naim interconnects I have much the same system as you CD5/Flatcap2/102/180 Hi-cap feeding Royd`s RR2`s, I have been experimenting with Kimber silver streak DIN-DIN and am very interested how Chord interconnects compare espically the solid 2,chorus and anthem can you give me a run down on what you found thwy did to your sound. I am after keeping reasonable speed and timing but to reduce sibilance in the treble with maybe abit more warmth.
Comments appreciated
Comments appreciated
Posted on: 30 December 2004 by andy c
Yo,
I have used kimber silver streak, KCAG and chord company Anthem Din-din cables in a variety of systems. I even had the snaics between pre and hicap abd 180 at one point. These were deployed at my old house, a 1935 semi, which had a suspended wooden floor. The sound in that room was very bright with the floor resonating at certain frequencys etc. I also used Kimber powercords and one of their distribution blocks, too.
The Kimber cable (and Mana at that point) calmed the sound down a little, as from the cd3.5 it was bright with quite a few cd's using Naim cables.
My current room has a concrete floor, and still has a bass boom at 30hz. With faffing about with sbl (then sl2) positioning this had been largely eradicated.
I then tried the chord and standard Naim cables. But, and its a big but, only after sorting my mains out.
The system is now able to function properly because of the mains, and then showed up the differances in cables to more of a degree. The result of this was a revert back to the Naim supplied cables, although of the two others I actually found the Chord Anthem to be the clearer and tighter sounding cable. The Kimber seemed to 'lose the juice' that makes Naim kit tick, in my view.
Also, my system has changed somewhat since back then, too.
hope this helps,
andy c!
I have used kimber silver streak, KCAG and chord company Anthem Din-din cables in a variety of systems. I even had the snaics between pre and hicap abd 180 at one point. These were deployed at my old house, a 1935 semi, which had a suspended wooden floor. The sound in that room was very bright with the floor resonating at certain frequencys etc. I also used Kimber powercords and one of their distribution blocks, too.
The Kimber cable (and Mana at that point) calmed the sound down a little, as from the cd3.5 it was bright with quite a few cd's using Naim cables.
My current room has a concrete floor, and still has a bass boom at 30hz. With faffing about with sbl (then sl2) positioning this had been largely eradicated.
I then tried the chord and standard Naim cables. But, and its a big but, only after sorting my mains out.
The system is now able to function properly because of the mains, and then showed up the differances in cables to more of a degree. The result of this was a revert back to the Naim supplied cables, although of the two others I actually found the Chord Anthem to be the clearer and tighter sounding cable. The Kimber seemed to 'lose the juice' that makes Naim kit tick, in my view.
Also, my system has changed somewhat since back then, too.
hope this helps,
andy c!
Posted on: 31 December 2004 by marco5
Thanks Andy,I have been down much the same route as yourself,spurring the mains, seperate consumer etc this was a brill upgrade and yes I am on suspended floarboards which causes nothing but grief espically with bass.I find kimber good but yes the system looses the drive and I also agree naim ic`s do sound too bright on some cd`s.Are you still use the powercords or have also gone back to the naim supplied power cables as well as the ic`s.
Fine tuning is always the hard bit and between speaker supports and ic`s I`m slowly getting there.
Any ideas on floorstanding speaker supports ?
Fine tuning is always the hard bit and between speaker supports and ic`s I`m slowly getting there.
Any ideas on floorstanding speaker supports ?
Posted on: 31 December 2004 by andy c
Hi Marco,
you have a pt,
regards
andy c!
you have a pt,
regards
andy c!
Posted on: 01 January 2005 by dilsher
Marco
great advice from Any there...however I too ahve gone down the Kimber IC and RA mains route and a dedicated spur too. I had Kimber Silver Streak then upgraded to KCAG and I must say it has not at all lost any drive or rhytmic guile -Kimber is well known as transparent and rythmic. But I prefer the less harsh sound provided by Kimber to Naim cabling. Only my taste so its horses for courses mate
Happy New Year to both.
great advice from Any there...however I too ahve gone down the Kimber IC and RA mains route and a dedicated spur too. I had Kimber Silver Streak then upgraded to KCAG and I must say it has not at all lost any drive or rhytmic guile -Kimber is well known as transparent and rythmic. But I prefer the less harsh sound provided by Kimber to Naim cabling. Only my taste so its horses for courses mate
Happy New Year to both.
Posted on: 01 January 2005 by andy c
hi dilsher,
and to you too.
absolutely use your own ears.
i just did the 'move the napsc as far as you dare away from the rest of your kit' mod tonight.
Oh my god it actually works LOL.
andy c!
and to you too.
absolutely use your own ears.
i just did the 'move the napsc as far as you dare away from the rest of your kit' mod tonight.
Oh my god it actually works LOL.
andy c!
Posted on: 02 January 2005 by dilsher
hI Andy
Yeah me too wiv da bleedin' NAPSC thingy - its sitting well away on da floor from the elctronics!
regards
Yeah me too wiv da bleedin' NAPSC thingy - its sitting well away on da floor from the elctronics!
regards
Posted on: 03 January 2005 by marco5
Belated Happy New year to you lot,just got back too much wine, Dilsher how does Kcag improve on silver streak or is it just different ? Is it worth the extra dosh ?
Cheers
Cheers
Posted on: 03 January 2005 by marco5
Andy c, the pt was useful, thanks, and my loudspeakers are Royd RR2`s, I am thinking of getting a stone bases-- (granite) for each of them from a stonemason as its the weight I need on the carpet to stop them rocking as they are quite tall and slim. I have tried just slabs not heavy enough, they still rock.
Posted on: 04 January 2005 by dilsher
Hi Marco
Welcome back mate. The KCAG simply gives you more of what SS gives you - more bass..more air..more grunt...a more expansive soundstage etc..
Bit like going from one Naim Preamp to another higher up the chain. It suits me but only you cna decide if its worth the extra dosh. Try one and send it back after 60 days if its not worth it - wotcha gotta lose buddy???
Regards
Dil
Welcome back mate. The KCAG simply gives you more of what SS gives you - more bass..more air..more grunt...a more expansive soundstage etc..
Bit like going from one Naim Preamp to another higher up the chain. It suits me but only you cna decide if its worth the extra dosh. Try one and send it back after 60 days if its not worth it - wotcha gotta lose buddy???
Regards
Dil