Advice on speakers: Kef LS50?

Tham Kok Leong posted:

I am own a set of LS50 speaker and I drive it with DACV1 + NAP100 as pre & power combo.  I found the NAP100 have difficulty to bring up the sound characteristic.  When I hooked it up with NAP200 instead.  The sound is super.

 Thank you for this. I was thinking about this unusual combo and heard it before. Some esthetix mismatch but can live with that. 

Can you please try to discribe the main difference please versus nap100

some say the nap100 adds 10 percent but change the sonic character. Would you agree with that ? Thank you 

 

I know this thread hasn't been touched for a few weeks but thought I would throw my hat in the ring with a few comments.

I recently sold my beloved 15 year old Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MkIIs after a few 'domestic issues'.  Under some pressure to get something smaller I have listened to a few speakers over the past few months, including PMC Twenty.21s.

(I have listened to my Dyns side by side in the past with some very expensive speakers c. £3-4K including Vienna Acoustics and PMCs - I never took them away again thinking I was missing something; they were that good).

Anyway I listened to some LS50s the other week on the end of a cheapish Arcam system fed by Tidal and was astounded by just how good they sounded. Their clarity and drive was amazing, and they were on some cheapish stands (B&Ws) and placed somewhat ad-hoc near a rear wall.

The upshot is I have a Titanium pair on order (they look and sound the best!) to go on the end of my kit. Despite the advice to listen at home etc etc I feel pretty comfortable with my decision and absolutely confident that they will sound at least as good as the old Dynaudios they will replace.

Initial impressions after 6-7 hours hooked up, not yet on decent stands...

Amazing clarity - hearing more than with my old Dynaudios.

Huge bass for size of cabinet (in my room).

Massive Sounstage.

Fast - or is that just the 202/200 combo?

Fantastic vocal rendition, making the music incredibly involving (singalong factor).

HOWEVER, Utterly ruthless with less than good recordings.

Overall pretty happy

 

Hi all, 

big naim announcement today which made me falter for a few hours 

i still love my qute2 and kef ls50 combination. Let's hope our current set benefit from some of the improvements

keen to know what forum friends with similar set up did recently. 

Did you upgrade ? Was thinking nap200 but cost a fortune 

What speaker cable are you  using? 

Anyone has an idea how to handle dsd and mqa? I am thinking adding a dac to qute2 via digital in? Let me know what you think

thanks in advance 

dayjay posted:

I would strongly suggest that you audition them in your own room with your system.  Didn't like them in my room with UQ2 and NAP100, felt that they were a bit boomy and exaggerated the mid bass.  In my friends system and room they sound excellent.

Just curious, what is your friend's system?

I don't own LS50's but I have auditioned them ..... I thought they were great they reminded me of LS35A on steroids .... I think they are great...ultimately they were a little too big for me and I went for PMC 21s. ..... by all a counts these speakers are so revealing that they will do justice to serious amplification .... see Hi Fi News review of Mark Levingston amp where kk and Paul miller sat jaw dropped with LS50...via this monster amp.

Ls50's are very room dependent. I couldn't have speakers more than a few inches from the wall in our living room. The Ls50's were magical on some things, and rendered others virtually unplayable. The RX3's I replaced them with aren't as magical, but much more forgiving and better all around-er.

That said, I got my Ls50 that my daughter knocked over back from repair. I was going to sell them, but since I would have to take such a major loss due to cosmetics, I decided to put them in an actual bookcase in the office, along with my UQ1 that I was also going to sell at a major loss, and I have to say they sound fantastic (but now what do I do with the office Mu-so?). They don't need to fill a room per se, so perfect for the UQ in that respect. Otherwise I think they demand/respect a much more powerful amp and to be away from walls. 

Massimo Bertola posted:
Skip posted:

Aren't they made in China?  I would keep looking for that reason alone.

Like the MU-SO...

Since when being built (or born) in a given place is automatically synonymous of 'to be avoided'? Weren't Lagers closed?

Yep, that's one straw argument these days, unless one has ethical concerns (and doesn't use a phone or computer or television), or is still living in the eighties. 

Guy007 posted:

LS50's seem to be the marmite extreme of speakers, you love 'em or hate 'em.  I love mine and think they sound great with my NAIT 5SI / CD5 SI combo.

You are right even if they performed the same every time I heard them in different places,settings and countries. Love them 

 

what kind of speaker cable you using for them please? 

I went the qute way but was always very tempted by your combo...was too expensive for me 

Crabby posted:

what kind of speaker cable you using for them please? 

I went the qute way but was always very tempted by your combo...was too expensive for me 

Crabby, I am using 5m of NACA5 cable with the Naim plugs on the Amp end. 

I don't have the speakers on stands, they sit on top of full book shelves.

Nothing wrong with a Qute, the main thing is enjoying music, which some folks seem to loose sight of.

Guy007 posted:
Crabby posted:

what kind of speaker cable you using for them please? 

I went the qute way but was always very tempted by your combo...was too expensive for me 

Crabby, I am using 5m of NACA5 cable with the Naim plugs on the Amp end. 

I don't have the speakers on stands, they sit on top of full book shelves.

Nothing wrong with a Qute, the main thing is enjoying music, which some folks seem to loose sight of.

Cant agree more with you 

thanks for taking time to reply...

Naim cable too expensive for me especially with this 3.5m length I keep hearing. Chord clearway perhaps or something equivalent. 

i will try a nap200 in a couple of years when I can afford it. For now, more thn enough for my humble flat space 

 

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