Another Tellurium Q question

wenger2015 posted:

The TQ Ultra Black's are exquisite.... You will not be disappointed 

Could not agree more a superb speaker cable, I'm now running the Black Diamond's and they are nothing short of  spectacular but do take a long time to run-in as do most TQ speaker cables.

fatcat posted:
Amused posted:
 The TQ Ultra Black RCA cable absolutely OBLITERATED the Flashback Sales Premiere DIN cable in every possible department,

 

I’m surprised you went for the premiere cable, you should have bought the performance cable. There are hints on the flashback website and not subtle ones at that, that suggest it is the cable to use with Naim equipment.

 I bought the flashback performance cable a couple of weeks ago to connect a mojo to to Naim pre amp. Compared to the mogami and kimber cable I’d tried previously, the flashback cable just sounds so musical, so right.

 Of coarse I have an olive/CB system, so I’m not really listening to soundstage, detail and imaging and separation, just the music.

 

I also have a Van Damme Ultra Black RCA interconnect (similar to the Mogami), and the Flashback is indeed much much better than it. But it can't compete with the TQ.

I did consult David prior to placing my order, he didn't recommend the performance over the premiere. 

 

No quarter posted:

Good to hear,can anyone tell me if these cables fit in the openings of the Hugo...the later model?

My Hugo is a latter model. The plugs are screw adjustable to improve the fit but I found that I had to unscrew the plugs off completely to get a good fit on the Hugo. 

No quarter posted:

Thanks MayorWest,do you mean the diameter of the connector on the TQ's is variable?or the depth that sticks out.Are you using RCA to RCA,or RCA to Din!?

The diameter of the connector is variable depending on how much you twist/screw the plastic plug. Unfortunately I found that the plastic plugs are just a little to wide for Hugo so I took them off completely to make sure I got a better fit.

I've got an RCA-RCA. I think TQ only do one or the other (RCA-RCA or DIN-DIN). I previously had a Chord Chorus Reference RCA-DIN which was bettered by an RCA-RCA TQ Black. TQ Ultra Black RCA-RCA was another obvious step up for me. I think that go for RCA-DIN where you can but it's cable dependant and I've found that overall, the better cable will still win out regardless of the connection. 

Second day of extensive listening - the TQ UB is absolutely superb! Every layer can be heard, every single instrument is distinguishable, yet the entire picture is completely coherent and so musical. 

I also installed a dedicated Furutech double schuko wall outlet last week, a noticeable improvement as well. The level of background noise has dramatically reduced, and the sound picture is wider and cleaner now. Had a week to test it out before adding the TQ cable yesterday, as I want to make sure every upgrade is tested independently of another.

The key upgrades are yet to be installed - the TQ speaker cable first, and then the HCDR.

Amused posted:

Second day of extensive listening - the TQ UB is absolutely superb! Every layer can be heard, every single instrument is distinguishable, yet the entire picture is completely coherent and so musical. 

I also installed a dedicated Furutech double schuko wall outlet last week, a noticeable improvement as well. The level of background noise has dramatically reduced, and the sound picture is wider and cleaner now. Had a week to test it out before adding the TQ cable yesterday, as I want to make sure every upgrade is tested independently of another.

The key upgrades are yet to be installed - the TQ speaker cable first, and then the HCDR.

You will be delighted with both, keep us updated.

What i would like to see Amused do is first add the speaker cables,have a listen...go back to his original cables,add the High cap dr,have a listen...see which brings more improvement/enjoyment,then try both together...just to see which is more bang for the buck.

No quarter posted:

What i would like to see Amused do is first add the speaker cables,have a listen...go back to his original cables,add the High cap dr,have a listen...see which brings more improvement/enjoyment,then try both together...just to see which is more bang for the buck.

That's a good proposal indeed! I will give it a shot, although I'm afraid the speaker cable (which is cheaper) will do more than the HCDR. I did test the HiCap Olive on my SN to almost no effect whatsoever. However, many members here say that HCDR is a substantial upgrade to the SN, I just hope it's that much better than the Olive HC.

The TQ Ultra Black is here! Just plugged it in, but had no opportunity to test it with music as my 2.5y old boy occupied the room. I will let it burn in through the night and listen to it tomorrow.

The HCDR will be here tomorrow as well. Some interesting times

Ok, first impressions after the first couple of hours in the system: tremendous amount of details, fluid and "buttery" midrange, very tight and controlled bass, and a very high amount of clarity. Instrument separation is staggering, I can clearly pinpoint all the instruments in space as well as different layers (a very good test song for this is "Ain't nobody" by Chaka Khan). The soundstage is huge, however the vocals appear to be somewhat upfront compared to the temporary  Oehlbach cable before. And the most import thing of all: PRaT is back!

A very strange thing happened though. I always play "Us and them" by PF when testing new components or cables. For the first time ever these cables introduced popping and crackling noise during the chorus of a specific 24/96 flac file of the song that I have. This has never happened to me before! It only happens with this particular file. I have another file (same song) in DSD and it plays normally. What might be the reason for that? It sounds like excessive clipping of some sort... I don't have a clue...

Amused posted:

A very strange thing happened though. I always play "Us and them" by PF when testing new components or cables. For the first time ever these cables introduced popping and crackling noise during the chorus of a specific 24/96 flac file of the song that I have. This has never happened to me before! It only happens with this particular file. I have another file (same song) in DSD and it plays normally. What might be the reason for that? It sounds like excessive clipping of some sort... I don't have a clue...

I'd say for them first time ever, the cables are letting you hear just what's on that recording 

Finkfan posted:

Ahhh it was always there, they just didn't let you hear it. Keep listening and you'll hear what else they've been keeping from you! 

Yeah, apparently they wanted me to fork out more than 1.5k on speaker and interconnect cables just to hear the backing vocals

james n posted:
Amused posted:

Ok, guys, currently listening to Riders on the storm, streaming from Tidal.

Is there a double backing vocal in the song? It sounds as if there is one all the time. 

There is (not via Tidal here but a CD rip)

I swear I've never heard it before, and I've played the song like a million times in my life (mostly on some crappy equipment in the earlier stages).

Amused posted:

The key upgrades are yet to be installed - the TQ speaker cable first, and then the HCDR.

I think you should add the HiCap DR first and see how you like it. Cables should be the last componend in the system - a proverbial icing on the cake.

Been using TQ Black Diamond DIN-DIN for more than 2 years now (nDAC into SuperNait 2 with HC). 'Unfortunately' a fellow forum member loaned me another cable... which is what I'm using now.... and it's not SL

Adam Zielinski posted:
Amused posted:

The key upgrades are yet to be installed - the TQ speaker cable first, and then the HCDR.

I think you should add the HiCap DR first and see how you like it. Cables should be the last componend in the system - a proverbial icing on the cake.

Been using TQ Black Diamond DIN-DIN for more than 2 years now (nDAC into SuperNait 2 with HC). 'Unfortunately' a fellow forum member loaned me another cable... which is what I'm using now.... and it's not SL

Well, the TQ UB arrived first The HCDR will arrive tomorrow, but I will have to wait a little bit longer for a Snaic4 cable I bought second hand, it should arrive within a week.

Which cable is it? Don't keep us in the dark

+ what a nice integrated amp is the SN1. Being alone it communicate the music and all its dynamics very well and by adding a PS and cables you get in serious Hifi territory. I never understood all the criticism it got when released. Maybe expectations of the reviewers were wrong.

Ardbeg10y posted:

Amused, the benefits you describe are pretty much the same as the Hicap DR should do. I'm looking forward to your report here!

Absolutely, I will report as soon as I get the Snaic4 to connect the HCDR.

Regarding the TQ UB, the cable has been playing non stop for the past 30 hours or so. The difference from yesterday is very noticeable, the mild harshness it demonstrated when first connected has almost gone away. As I said before, the ability of this cable to extract details is absolutely staggering! The sound coming out is holographic, it puts you right there with the musicians, as if you are in the front row seat on a live concert. The stereo separation is tremendous. As to the downsides, it lacks a bit of slam and energy, and the bass could be more powerful. But perhaps it's too early to comment on that as the cable needs proper burning in. However, it is extremely open and transparent, it gives a very black background and the clarity it produces is on a whole new level.

 Two upgrades coming next week: HCDR (eagerly anticipated) and a used Powerline. Now that should be interesting. 

Ardbeg10y posted:

+ what a nice integrated amp is the SN1. Being alone it communicate the music and all its dynamics very well and by adding a PS and cables you get in serious Hifi territory. I never understood all the criticism it got when released. Maybe expectations of the reviewers were wrong.

Couldn't agree more. In my system and to my ears it wiped the floor with a Simaudio Moon i3 (a very fine integrated in its own right). And I'm talking bare Supernait with a stock power cable connected to a "dirty" power outlet (shared and polluted by 10 devices).

Since I did some electric works in my room and installed a separate clean outlet with a double Furutech shucko (one for the SN, the other for the HCDR to come), the "grain" and "harshness" have disappeared and the bass exploded. A great cheap upgrade! It all comes down to clean power at the end. 

 

Ok, the HCDR is here and hooked up.

All I can say is this is biggest upgrade to my system of them all. The clarity produced by the HCDR is outstanding, as well as the dramatically lowered noise floor and the blackest of backgrounds. Absolutely fantastic! Everything that has been said about the SN1-HCDR combo being fantastic is absolutely true! The PRAT thing is phenomenal!

Someone asked me to describe which of the upgrades has a larger impact. The HCDR definitely! The TQ UB cables are just the icing on the cake, as TQ with a bare SN1 is very nice indeed, but TQ UB with a SN+HCDR combo is mind blowing!

So my conclusion is that the HCDR is the better upgrade than the TQ UB speaker and interconnect cables.

wenger2015 posted:
No quarter posted:

Good to hear Amused,that is exactly what I would of thought,box upgrades far outweigh cable upgrades in my experience. 

Depends on the box and the cable? 

And would Amused have realised the upgrade potential of the HCDR without the TQ UB already in place?

Dear all, there is someone that have compared the TQ black vs TQ Ultra Black speaker cables?I already have the black and I was thinking to replace it with the Ultra but it costs very much more and I do not know if it worth the extracost.

Any experiences?

Thank you!

damy79 posted:

Dear all, there is someone that have compared the TQ black vs TQ Ultra Black speaker cables?I already have the black and I was thinking to replace it with the Ultra but it costs very much more and I do not know if it worth the extracost.

Any experiences?

Thank you!

I believe you will find plenty user comparisons on this forum, just use the search button.

wenger2015 posted:
No quarter posted:

Good to hear Amused,that is exactly what I would of thought,box upgrades far outweigh cable upgrades in my experience. 

Depends on the box and the cable? 

Come on guys,he said the bigger upgrade was DEFINITELY the HCDR,and the cables were icing,I swear some of you guys are TQ salesman.

damy79 posted:

Dear all, there is someone that have compared the TQ black vs TQ Ultra Black speaker cables?I already have the black and I was thinking to replace it with the Ultra but it costs very much more and I do not know if it worth the extracost.

Any experiences?

Thank you!

Damy79,

You will find its an extremely good upgrade, you will not be disappointed. 

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