Blu Ray Player

Guy007 posted:
tonym posted:

Yes, I saw something similar Guy. So the question is, will the new player's picture quality be better than my 103D on 1080P? I do use Darbee, but only gently. I suppose I'll have to buy one to find out (or wait for others to report on the issue).

Tony, this is one of the reason's I'm going to wait to buy, until the early adopters can give feedback on the 203 in comparison to the 103/D and 105/D in picture & sound.

Dammit, I'm torn! I did risk buying my 103D when they first appeared and never regretted it, but it might be more sensible to wait a bit for this. But then I've never been terribly sensible.

tonym posted:
Guy007 posted:
tonym posted:

Yes, I saw something similar Guy. So the question is, will the new player's picture quality be better than my 103D on 1080P? I do use Darbee, but only gently. I suppose I'll have to buy one to find out (or wait for others to report on the issue).

Tony, this is one of the reason's I'm going to wait to buy, until the early adopters can give feedback on the 203 in comparison to the 103/D and 105/D in picture & sound.

Dammit, I'm torn! I did risk buying my 103D when they first appeared and never regretted it, but it might be more sensible to wait a bit for this. But then I've never been terribly sensible.

Is your 103D broken?

tonym posted:

Dammit, I'm torn! I did risk buying my 103D when they first appeared and never regretted it, but it might be more sensible to wait a bit for this. But then I've never been terribly sensible.

It was a no brainer with Darbee, but with no reviews yet.... I'm sure it will be good, but just how much better. Also the 'possibility' of a future Darbee version...

RE Jarre - no dice on the Audio Extract, a sticker is all it seems to be..

Been watching 30yr old episodes of blackadderII on DVD on a UDP-203 this evening. 

Erm, it's a bit bloody good!

 

Then tried Captain America Civil War on BluRay  again, stunning. 

 

Sound on bitsream out via my AV2 also noticeable and significant step up on my old 83SE

 

I do have allthe leads to hook the 203 up as a processor to my 82 unity gain and NAP-V175. Will do that ovr the next few days and see if the AV2 can retire. 

 

Even if the AV2 stays, this 203 is a worthy investment. Glad I took the plunge. 

Not yet... source first. . Using a fully calibrated 1080P set from the last throes of Toshiba. A set originally and specifically chosen for its' beautiful scaling properties when I used to send DVI straight to it at 576p from my n-Vi. Nice that this "visual loudspeaker" has proven worthy by showing off the improvements at the source. 

 

I wasn't going to move up to 4k until Dolby Vision and HDR are more than just "OK" for anything less than three grand. 

 

In the meantime a fresh player to show off well over a thousand DVDs and about a hundred BDs has proven a wise move. 

 

A bit of Yes Prime Minister boxset with breakfast is still stunning. Tonight I'll try some movie DVDs. 

Bert Schurink posted:

I am very happy with my Oppo, so I am very interested in your report about the new beast....

Yes, Bert. I've been very pleased with my 93U but the technology seems to move on quickly in the video world so always had it in mind to think about an upgrade when the successors to the 103 line were announced.

I've had my Oppo BDP- 203 for a few days now, & as expected it's up to the usual Oppo standards. We've only watched one disc so far, The Revenant, but the picture quality is gobsmackingly good, as is the sound quality, the latter a surprising step up from my 103D, given that I use the Denon processor, not the Oppo, to decode the soundtrack. The only negative is that for the first few seconds of 4K playback you get a blank screen but apparently the new firmware upgrade overcomes this.

Tony I have to say I agree with you, the 203 is my first Oppo/high end blu ray player and I was lead to believe there would be no real improvement in sound as I use a Rotel AV amp to do the decoding. The 203 has definitely improved the sound quite markedly. Even my kids have commented on how much better it is !

MDS posted:
Bert Schurink posted:

I am very happy with my Oppo, so I am very interested in your report about the new beast....

Yes, Bert. I've been very pleased with my 93U but the technology seems to move on quickly in the video world so always had it in mind to think about an upgrade when the successors to the 103 line were announced.

For my purpose I try to allows buy the most up to date tech, but I am not throwing out things which work, just because a new technology comes up - so I have to wait then till this one breaks...

Bert Schurink posted:
MDS posted:
Bert Schurink posted:

I am very happy with my Oppo, so I am very interested in your report about the new beast....

Yes, Bert. I've been very pleased with my 93U but the technology seems to move on quickly in the video world so always had it in mind to think about an upgrade when the successors to the 103 line were announced.

For my purpose I try to allows buy the most up to date tech, but I am not throwing out things which work, just because a new technology comes up - so I have to wait then till this one breaks...

Very sensible, Bert, and I generally do the same.  However in this instance I can justify it to myself because I have another TV in another room on which I use a very old Pioneer DVD player which I plan to replace with my Oppo 93U.  

Mike

tonym posted:

The 205 only makes sense if you're using its internal sound decoding for analogue output - you're correct MDS, it's the new equivalent of the 105. 

Interesting you say this Tony, especially when I think your earlier post suggested you were using your Denon AV processor to do the processing so I assume connected via HDMI bitstream output from the Oppo. Yet you also said the sound quality was improved between the 103 and 203, so was the 103 connected in the same way via HDMI?

I know some people who use the 105 effectively as a digital transport via HDMI and feel it is a step up via HDMI compared to the 103, possibly partly due to the higher quality linear power supply in the 105.

Thanks

Richard.

Felty99 posted:
tonym posted:

The 205 only makes sense if you're using its internal sound decoding for analogue output - you're correct MDS, it's the new equivalent of the 105. 

Interesting you say this Tony, especially when I think your earlier post suggested you were using your Denon AV processor to do the processing so I assume connected via HDMI bitstream output from the Oppo. Yet you also said the sound quality was improved between the 103 and 203, so was the 103 connected in the same way via HDMI?

 

Thanks

Richard.

Yes, connected up the same way. Which is why I was surprised by the better sound quality.

Picking up a previous comment - please talk me through this in basic terms.

After too many highly recommended but frankly unreliable blu ray players (mostly Sony but also a Denon), I have had my eye on an upgrade for a while. Since my latest player gave up the ghost this week, the time is ripe.

I want a dvd/blu ray player to watch films, not to play CDs or stream music. Sound will play through my two-channel Naim system. I'm not racing to move to 5.1 or 7.1 but a new flat means I may need that capability at some point. So, my priorities are picture quality, sound quality and build quality. (With a bit of future-proofing.)

Given the fairly similar pricing currently, is there any reason to consider an Oppo 103D as opposed to the new 203? (And should I consider anything 'less'?)

Nick - I've just checked your system profile.

Oppo 203 wpuld be a good choice. If you decide to go down the 5.1 route, have a look at Classe processor and one of their 3 channel amps. You ahould be able to actually build a very good surround sound system - some BlyRay audio or SACD discs do sound amazing in surround.

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