Chord Sarum T

I heard Sarum T at the Bristol show and commented on it at the time. In my opinion it could be a significant improvement over the Super Aray. Obviously you'd need to hear it for yourself in your own system. I think I recall reading on here that Debbie updated the interconnects on her LP12 from Super Aray to Sarum T recently. Hopefully she will add her thoughts in this thread now that she's had the opportunity to live with it for some time.

Comments below only refer to interconnections - i've neither heard or seen Sarum T power cables or Speaker cables!

The Chord analogue Sarum T is the new upgraded replacement for the Sarum Super Aray. It is ranked within the Chord cable range: above Signature, and below Music.

Sarum Aray and Sarum T are also the Chord cables that are priced closest to Super Lumia.

This new improved Sarum is very different in feel, noticeably lighter in weight and less bulky, and comes wrapped in light blueish-grey mesh with the all important Taylon®Insulation, and with the most noticeable change of all being the absence of DIN lock rings. 

The new Sarum T cables also have a flatter two sided feel along with the lightness, which is more akin to the Music cables. The DIN to DIN [ CDS3 to 552 ] employs 5 pin connections, from the Sarum Aray that uses 3 pins.

The absence of DIN lock-rings is a superb improvement for fitting ease [probably sonic benefits too] but it's has to be said those lock-rings can get in the way making connections darn fiddly when at full arm stretch behind the fraim rack. Once connected the new [two sided] cables give out a dependable way of alignment that is very helpful with cable dressing, the Super Aray dressing is easy but this is even easier!

Musically the Sarum T builds on the strength of Super Aray, again more realism, more engagement and musical involvement for the listen, it maybe a halfway house between Sarum Aray and Music but this wonderful clear transparency requires a well set up system with good components conveying what is coming from upstream with little or no interference, a poor digital remaster will be exposed for the crap quality on offer, a good CD master will benefit from the wide window that allows a clear focus to produce a very satisfactory sonic quality.

I've refrained from referring to my LP12 for the Super Aray to Sarum T upgrade due to simultaneously having a Tranquility fitted. Fortunately Chord offer a 1 meter or 1.2 meter length of Sarum T cable with 2 x RSA to DIN for Urika to 552, and along with a Tranquillity i can confirm this has widened the boundaries on the superiority of LP12 Analogue source even further from digital. The good news here though is that i've been using my CDS3 player more so in order to gain some cable burn-in, and enjoying the music which has never sounded better from my CDS3, and all this with no nasty burn-in issues to report : )

Thanks to Peter at Cymbiosis for the fitting of the two Ts to my LP12  [Sarum T and Tranquility] and 3 new springs and fettling! ; )

Debs

I'm using Sarum T between NDS/552. It has replaced Naim SL. The Chord Sarum TA I had before the upgrade always sounded dull in comparison to the SL so the SL stayed.  However the Sarum T sounds like a totally different cable compared with the TA.

What is immediately apparent is that it makes the music more engaging and gives a much greater emotional connection. Having heard the Chord Music in comparison I'd say the T was around 90% there at half the cost. It's certainly closer in sound to the Music than to the Sarum TA.

About two weeks ago I upgraded my Sarum Super  Din to Din i.c.  between my NDS and 552 and the Din/Xlr cables for my 300  to the new Sarum T. Unfortunately the upgrade requires that the cables need to once again be burned in to sound their best. 

I was running my stock Lavender and Din/Xlr cables while the Sarum S cables were being upgraded. I live in the States, so I didn't  have a opportunity try the T cables before getting the upgrade. i have compared the previous Sarum Super  cables with Superlumina and in my system I preferred the Sarum S.A.. Based on what little I had read about the Sarum T I thought I would give them a try. 

While I could not do a back to back comparison between the Sarum S and the Sarum T, it was  immediately obvious, that the new cables are much better in terms of detail,clarity and PRAT than the Sarum S. . Once it had burned  in for 100 plus hours all the attributes that are important to me came clearly into  focus in a way that I have never heard before. I can only imagine what the Chord Music must sound like.

Interestingly, I added Sl speaker cables, which were fully burned in by my dealer, the day before I shipped my Sarum S cables back to Chord for the upgrade. Certainly not a definitive test,but I  thought the Sarum S cables with my trusty Naca 5 sounded much better to me than stock Naim i.c., Din/XLR cables with Superlumina speaker cables.  Not really drawing any conclusion from this just found it interesting. 

Jonn posted:

I'm using Sarum T between NDS/552. It has replaced Naim SL. The Chord Sarum TA I had before the upgrade always sounded dull in comparison to the SL so the SL stayed.  However the Sarum T sounds like a totally different cable compared with the TA.

What is immediately apparent is that it makes the music more engaging and gives a much greater emotional connection. Having heard the Chord Music in comparison I'd say the T was around 90% there at half the cost. It's certainly closer in sound to the Music than to the Sarum TA.

Hi Jonn

 

how does the Sarum T compare to the SL interconnect? 

analogmusic posted:
Jonn posted:

I'm using Sarum T between NDS/552. It has replaced Naim SL. The Chord Sarum TA I had before the upgrade always sounded dull in comparison to the SL so the SL stayed.  However the Sarum T sounds like a totally different cable compared with the TA.

What is immediately apparent is that it makes the music more engaging and gives a much greater emotional connection. Having heard the Chord Music in comparison I'd say the T was around 90% there at half the cost. It's certainly closer in sound to the Music than to the Sarum TA.

Hi Jonn

 

how does the Sarum T compare to the SL interconnect? 

SL cable is very good in terms of clarity, spaciousness, tight bass , prat, but the words I'd use to describe the Sarum T are more to do with connecting to the music, engaging, lifelike, emotional. SL is the science,Sarum T is the art.

I suppose it is great to be able to upgrade both IC and DIN/XLR to Sarum T, but according to some old forum posts, it seems one should upgrade the DIN-XLR first?

It doesn't seem logical though, as how could the DIN-XLR make up for information loss between the Source and Preamp?

Not quite

Perhaps instead of speculating a listening demo might be more in order?

My initial thoughts were skeptical - a demo quickly corrected that

My understanding is that the incidental power requirements are significant.  Have you ever turned off the display on a 552 and then compared?  It might surprise you

glevethan posted:

I do not know why however I am definitely in the minority and find that the interconnects provided a much better upgrade than the XLR's.

For an informational standpoint I have had Sarum TA, Super, and now Music - however my XLR's have remained TA

And on that side note...

this is something that I'm doing at this very moment; comparing Super Sarum to Sarum T. Even fresh out of the bag (actually fresh out of the bag, out of another bag, out of a box, out of a sleeve, out of a box... pretty well-packaged!) it's quite something. It's certainly closer to Music than Sarum, as described elsewhere, and almost makes me want to find out precisely how much better a Music version might be. Also, as Jonn describes, the improvements are in terms of musical connection; that wonderful sense of engagement and insight into why, not just what.  It's also a bit weird, to be honest, given the purpose of the cable.

lyndon posted:

Ok and display 

so with that in mind surely the best we could hope for is a smoother up and down of the volume control and perhaps brighter colours on the display 

 

lyndon

 

Until you've seen the Naim logo glowing against the inky blackness, you've not really experienced contrast.

I just had a look at Chord's website.  Quite interesting as the price is listed as 1800 gbp per meter yet they have a link to this months HiFi+ review which lists a 3 meter run at 3600 gbp i.e. 1200 per meter.  

They need to do some proof reading of the reviews they link to - or hopefully it is Chord's own website which is wrong - (Although I doubt it )

glevethan posted:

Dave

Is Chord also making Sarum T available for speaker cable or do the choices remain  simply Sarum or Music?

Best

Gregg

PS did you receive my email from the weekend?

Hi Gregg

New email server over the weekend - just replied.

Cheers

Dave

Chris Bell posted:

I will be spending the next few days with Chord Sarum T IC & DIN-XLR.  My current setup is Super Lumina IC & Sarum TA DIN-XLR.

I'll report back.  

Keen to hear your report. Although I am expecting Sarum T to win the fight 

Maybe SL vs Sarum Super Array was a matter of taste, but Sarum T is (supposedly) a game changer.

well there is a Sarum T review (May 2017) on the chord cable website.

Even compared to Chord Signature tuned aray, according to the review, the Sarum T blows that one away.

 

"It wasn’t just like hearing a different recording, it was like swapping from a mediocre CD to a really good vinyl record: life, dynamic impact, presence, immediacy, tonal, and dynamic range – the whole thing just came to life."

I've tried the Sarum-T ethernet cable between the final network switch and the streamer in my own system.  Both cables well used. Compared to Anthem it seems to do much of what people have said above about the interconnects - it seems to be a more natural sound - an unforced flow to the music.  

Followed this up with the Music version which brings even more of the same. Often when moving between different Chord ranges there is a clear difference in the presentation. However, between Sarum-T and Music in this cable format they deliver very obviously in the same way. Music just refines it that bit more. Sarum-T offers most of the joy for less money. Its on order.

Every time I compare ethernet cables I'm determined not to hear a difference, but my expectation bias keeps letting me down.

sunbeamgls posted:

I've tried the Sarum-T ethernet cable between the final network switch and the streamer in my own system.  Both cables well used. Compared to Anthem it seems to do much of what people have said above about the interconnects - it seems to be a more natural sound - an unforced flow to the music.  

Followed this up with the Music version which brings even more of the same. Often when moving between different Chord ranges there is a clear difference in the presentation. However, between Sarum-T and Music in this cable format they deliver very obviously in the same way. Music just refines it that bit more. Sarum-T offers most of the joy for less money. Its on order.

Every time I compare ethernet cables I'm determined not to hear a difference, but my expectation bias keeps letting me down.

Exactly my experience - between the Melco and KDSM. I'm about to have my "old" Sarum TAs upgraded to T status with the aim of getting more from Tidal. 

sunbeamgls posted:

I've tried the Sarum-T ethernet cable between the final network switch and the streamer in my own system.  Both cables well used. Compared to Anthem it seems to do much of what people have said above about the interconnects - it seems to be a more natural sound - an unforced flow to the music.  

Followed this up with the Music version which brings even more of the same. Often when moving between different Chord ranges there is a clear difference in the presentation. However, between Sarum-T and Music in this cable format they deliver very obviously in the same way. Music just refines it that bit more. Sarum-T offers most of the joy for less money. Its on order.

Every time I compare ethernet cables I'm determined not to hear a difference, but my expectation bias keeps letting me down.

I finally upgraded from Audioquest Vodka Ethernet to Chord Indigo Aray Ethernet! I told myself I would not spend the money to do that, then I did, and it was a big difference! Much more musical detail. I can't imagine how much better Sarum T Ethernet cable is, but I bet it is very noticeable. Now I have to figure out how to buy a Sarum T interconnect and a Ethernet cable. I know it would really improve the musical experience with my Naim NDS/555DR. But it will hurt the bank account and it will be hard to convince my wife after I told her it would stop after Indigo Aray Ethernet and Sarum Super Aray interconnect! Ha! Why do I promise this is the last upgrade! Silly me! 

analogmusic posted:

I suppose it is great to be able to upgrade both IC and DIN/XLR to Sarum T, but according to some old forum posts, it seems one should upgrade the DIN-XLR first?

It doesn't seem logical though, as how could the DIN-XLR make up for information loss between the Source and Preamp?

No hands on experience, but I'm with you this one Analog.

Mr. TM CEO @ Vertere, the weakest link Guy!

Once one has secured his End Game System, it only seems logical, that the weakest link would involve the loss or, contamination of the Signal derived from the source.

With that being said, IF, I decide to pursue the Loom, I would address the Speaker Cabling next, hoping for a knockout, Completing the final link with the XLR IC.

JMHO!

Just on the side line, learning!

Thanks!

Allante93!

Spent the last few days comparing Sarum Tuned Array (STA) IC & DIN-XLR, Sarum T (ST) IC & DIN-XLR, AVoptions Deep-Cryo Lavender IC (AVO), Naim Super Lumina IC (SL) and the Naim DIN-XLR supplied with my NAP500 15 years ago. Many thanks to my friend Brooks for loaning my his ST cables for this demo.

I became a fan of Chord cables back when I replaced my Hi-Line, 4-5 DIN and DIN-XLR's with Sarum Tuned Array. This upgrade represented a big jump in resolution.  I was content with the sound until I heard the Naim SL interconnect.  This represented a HUGE jump in sound quality, especially in the bass region.  I did all number of comparisons this weekend and it was very interesting. Both my 552 and 500 were recapped and DR'd earlier this year and only in the past couple of weeks did they start to truly sound good.  Amazing how long the 552 took to bloom and I'm guessing there is more to come.  Bottom line is I prefered the sound of the Naim SL by a wide margin.  It was dynamic, explosive, had better resolution and offered the most engaging experience.  The Chord ST was very good and I would describe the sound as smooth and even tempered.  I could hear the evolution between the ST and STA, the newer cable showing Chord's maturity of design.  I broke out a Deep-Cryo'd lavender IC from AVoptions and was surprised how musical it sounded.  It did not have the dynamics of the Super Lumina nor the resolution of Chord's but it held its own.  Same can be said for the 15 year old DIN-XLR cable supplied with my NAP500.  It had an "old school" Naim sound I knew well and could not fault. 

My conclusion is the Super Lumina won due to the advanced Air-PLUG.  I have become all too aware how sensitive cables are to vibrations and Naim has engineered a complex (expensive) solution.  It's also a double edged sword as the cable is merciless if the system is not properly sorted out.  I think if Chord could design a decoupled DIN connector their cable would perform even better.  

That's my 2 cents... your milage may vary.   

Chris Bell posted:

Spent the last few days comparing Sarum Tuned Array (STA) IC & DIN-XLR, Sarum T (ST) IC & DIN-XLR, AVoptions Deep-Cryo Lavender IC (AVO), Naim Super Lumina IC (SL) and the Naim DIN-XLR supplied with my NAP500 15 years ago. Many thanks to my friend Brooks for loaning my his ST cables for this demo.

I became a fan of Chord cables back when I replaced my Hi-Line, 4-5 DIN and DIN-XLR's with Sarum Tuned Array. This upgrade represented a big jump in resolution.  I was content with the sound until I heard the Naim SL interconnect.  This represented a HUGE jump in sound quality, especially in the bass region.  I did all number of comparisons this weekend and it was very interesting. Both my 552 and 500 were recapped and DR'd earlier this year and only in the past couple of weeks did they start to truly sound good.  Amazing how long the 552 took to bloom and I'm guessing there is more to come.  Bottom line is I prefered the sound of the Naim SL by a wide margin.  It was dynamic, explosive, had better resolution and offered the most engaging experience.  The Chord ST was very good and I would describe the sound as smooth and even tempered.  I could hear the evolution between the ST and STA, the newer cable showing Chord's maturity of design.  I broke out a Deep-Cryo'd lavender IC from AVoptions and was surprised how musical it sounded.  It did not have the dynamics of the Super Lumina nor the resolution of Chord's but it held its own.  Same can be said for the 15 year old DIN-XLR cable supplied with my NAP500.  It had an "old school" Naim sound I knew well and could not fault. 

My conclusion is the Super Lumina won due to the advanced Air-PLUG.  I have become all too aware how sensitive cables are to vibrations and Naim has engineered a complex (expensive) solution.  It's also a double edged sword as the cable is merciless if the system is not properly sorted out.  I think if Chord could design a decoupled DIN connector their cable would perform even better.  

That's my 2 cents... your milage may vary.   

Is there anyway to get a hold of Chord Music cable to hear that too? I heard the Chord Music at my dealer, it blew me away!  I heard it is noticeably better than Chord Sarum T. Thank you for doing the experiment and posting the findings ! 

Chris Bell posted:

Bottom line is I prefered the sound of the Naim SL by a wide margin.  It was dynamic, explosive, had better resolution and offered the most engaging experience.  The Chord ST was very good and I would describe the sound as smooth and even tempered.  

Weirdly that is the exact polar opposite of how I hear them - the SL being the one that sounds constrained and smooth and lacking spark. Oh well, à chacun son goût 

Chris Dolan posted:
Chris Bell posted:

Bottom line is I prefered the sound of the Naim SL by a wide margin.  It was dynamic, explosive, had better resolution and offered the most engaging experience.  The Chord ST was very good and I would describe the sound as smooth and even tempered.  

Weirdly that is the exact polar opposite of how I hear them - the SL being the one that sounds constrained and smooth and lacking spark. Oh well, à chacun son goût 

Me too - SL wasn't even close - but really interesting to hear different views.

What intrigues me is that there appears to be a different focus on what the cable does. For me, SL follows the route of concentrating on what element(s) of the frequency spectrum sound better, whereas Sarum T and Music simply focus on the intent and emotion of the performance. I can understand why some will lean towards the former but the latter is what I seek from my music.

Based on folks' experiences with SL vs. Chord Sarum, it did seem to me that those with a more positive experience with SL were using it in a completely Naim system and those of us with kit from other manufacturers in the chain tended to prefer Chord. For my part, a (run in) SL phono to DIN interconnect came a very poor second best to a Chord Super Sarum. It would be interesting to learn if others have formed the same view.

tonym posted:

Based on folks' experiences with SL vs. Chord Sarum, it did seem to me that those with a more positive experience with SL were using it in a completely Naim system and those of us with kit from other manufacturers in the chain tended to prefer Chord. For my part, a (run in) SL phono to DIN interconnect came a very poor second best to a Chord Super Sarum. It would be interesting to learn if others have formed the same view.

There might be something in that observation Tony. I also notice that a lot of Chord users are also LP12 devotees. When I tried SSA IC I thought there was much 'LP12ness' to the sonic presentation and made digital sources sound more analogue and very ordered, whilst SL could sometimes get a bit raucous. In many ways I prefered the SSA, BUT I just found that come the end of every track I tried I simply hadn't got the same emotional shot that I got from SL.

My experience chimes well with Chris Bell's description: 

"Bottom line is I prefered the sound of the Naim SL by a wide margin. It was dynamic, explosive, had better resolution and offered the most engaging experience. The Chord ST was very good and I would describe the sound as smooth and even tempered.  "

"Vertere has continued to demonstrate conclusively that for almost any system, the weakest link is the connecting cables. The next weakest link is the tonearm, followed by the turntable. In that order Vertere has set out to produce the absolute utmost highest quality analog audio components. Each weakness systematically eliminated so that, just when you thought things couldn't get better, they did."

I like the Weakest Link Guy, I'm surprised I don't hear that much about his Cables on the Forum. 

Anyway, his logical, and methodical approach to hi- fi, had me contemplating until I seen the price list!

Just as economical as Chord & Naim. LOL!

Allante93!

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