Cyclists !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JamieWednesday posted:

So; this morning, waiting to turn across the road into my son's school, we were third in line.

Car one turns, all fine, well in front of the cyclist coming the other way in the cycle lane.

The car in front of me hesitates, I figure she has seen him coming and waits.

Nope ! She then turns right in front of him, however he's seen her idiocy/blindness coming and has slowed down.

I think 'what a tw@t' of the driver, he is shaking his head and saying loud stuff. Not surprised he's hacked off. But he did see it coming. So did I.

She's then waiting in the traffic that's formed in school drop off area.

He now comes to a complete halt. Parks his bike against the fence, approaches her, shouting and throwing his arms about, getting her attention. I can see she looks panicked. So does the boy in the back. He points at himself, points at her, points at the kid, kicks out at her car door and thumps her mirror. He then leaves and rides off. She picks up her phone and dials.

The world is full of tw@ts.

Yeah, there's little point in escalating. I get the anger, though. It tends to happen when someone's thoughtfulness, impatience or aggression puts your life in danger. Earlier this week I was walking across the pedestrian crossing in front of the office, carrying my bike shoes and helmet (going from the bike storage to my office). A driver with his head down looking at his phone blows through the crossing, nearly striking me. He looked up just enough to see that he wasn't going to be able to stop in time, so kept going and looked straight back down at his phone. I regret to say that I was just not quite quick enough to punch or kick his stupid car, but briefly considered hurling a shoe at it.

TOBYJUG posted:

Been much talk on other forums about the bright non beamed lights on cycles being too bright and blinding motorists.

Never have I been on an open road at night without adequate lighting provided, has an oncoming motor dimmed down their lights for me as they would another vehicle.

The front light on my bike is quite bright and i do worry it maybe dazzling on-comers, but because it's on my bike i can't see myself coming down the road to check how it looks, however it is angled downwards slightly so should be okay (?)

Meanwhile i am getter occasions of getting dazzled by other cyclists myself, the problem [apart from the obvious one of being dazzled] seems to be the lowering of ones ability to estimate how far and at what speed the bright bleeding light is moving. In fact sometimes i'm not sure what it is, a car with one headlamp?, a motorcycle?, a scooter?,  ...i'm just glad it's only dusk overcast gloom i sometimes ride in and i don't have to ride my bike at night in total darkness anymore.

Debs

naim_nymph posted:
TOBYJUG posted:

Been much talk on other forums about the bright non beamed lights on cycles being too bright and blinding motorists.

Never have I been on an open road at night without adequate lighting provided, has an oncoming motor dimmed down their lights for me as they would another vehicle.

The front light on my bike is quite bright and i do worry it maybe dazzling on-comers, but because it's on my bike i can't see myself coming down the road to check how it looks, however it is angled downwards slightly so should be okay (?)

Meanwhile i am getter occasions of getting dazzled by other cyclists myself, the problem [apart from the obvious one of being dazzled] seems to be the lowering of ones ability to estimate how far and at what speed the bright bleeding light is moving. In fact sometimes i'm not sure what it is, a car with one headlamp?, a motorcycle?, a scooter?,  ...i'm just glad it's only dusk overcast gloom i sometimes ride in and i don't have to ride my bike at night in total darkness anymore.

Debs

My front light is bright, and likewise it is angled down (it is also adjustable in spread, so I have it set for Illumination of the road in front of me, but no wider than I need to be able to see the road surface in the dark.

However, one problem with LED bike lights, some more so than others, is that the whilst a reflector, and in better designs a lens, can provide a degree of focus ther is often significant 'stray' light that in a dipped car headlamp is avoided by a shield.  That said, whilst they can be bright and more dazzling than ideal, as long as angled downwards they are not as completely and dangerously dazzling as a car headlamp on full beam.

I've recently noticed quite a few cyclists on the daily commute in central London on the narrow dedicated contra flow cycle lanes with either front or rear lights poorly aligned to the point where they dazzle other cyclists.  Motorists also no doubt!  I'm not sure if this is done out of ignorance or deliberate but I do wish all cyclists would check the alignment of front and rear lights.

Peter

northpole posted:

I've recently noticed quite a few cyclists on the daily commute in central London on the narrow dedicated contra flow cycle lanes with either front or rear lights poorly aligned to the point where they dazzle other cyclists.  Motorists also no doubt!  I'm not sure if this is done out of ignorance or deliberate but I do wish all cyclists would check the alignment of front and rear lights.

Peter

The increasing brightness of bike lights is definitely an issue. I run mine on low power until I get out of the city the switch it up. It's angled down to cover the road I need to see. Sadly, as someone said above, motorists rarely see a need to dip their lights for cyclists, so caution is the key for during those frequent, but brief periods when I am temporarily blinded by oncoming vehicles.

When cyclists do converse on the subject of lighting and not dazzling other road users, they do seem to have the right ideas about it.

http://www.bikeradar.com/forum...40012&t=13070924

Personally I use two decent lights angled to create an optimum pool of light ahead of me, with a small single small flashing white in the centre of the bars as that 's become the de facto cyclist's light as long as they're within the legal parameters of 60-240 flashes per minutes (1-4Hz). That still doesn't stop drivers coming towards me with full beam on as if they can't possibly comprehend what the two lights plus a flashing light can possibly be and clearly feel that the most obvious (duhhh!! It's a bike) can't possibly be it, so maintain full beam regardless.

ChrisR_EPL posted:

When cyclists do converse on the subject of lighting and not dazzling other road users, they do seem to have the right ideas about it.

http://www.bikeradar.com/forum...40012&t=13070924

Personally I use two decent lights angled to create an optimum pool of light ahead of me, with a small single small flashing white in the centre of the bars as that 's become the de facto cyclist's light as long as they're within the legal parameters of 60-240 flashes per minutes (1-4Hz). That still doesn't stop drivers coming towards me with full beam on as if they can't possibly comprehend what the two lights plus a flashing light can possibly be and clearly feel that the most obvious (duhhh!! It's a bike) can't possibly be it, so maintain full beam regardless.

I also run a flasher alongside my headlight. It's almost like motorists leave high beam on (or even switch it on) out of curiosity. "What is that weird light and flasher? I'd better light it up to get a better look. It's not a motor vehicle so it shouldn't be there."

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