F1 - 2017

Congratulations Valtteri,  first F1 win !!!    And what a finish  !!! the tightest for a long long time.  Ferrari certainly have proven to be a force to be reckoned with this year & based on that race there is not much to choose between them.  Ferrari are faster on the wiggly bits & Mercs have the flat out speed.  Hard to tell who had the tyre advantage as this track is so easy on them.  It was a shame Lewis could not get into the race,  overheating & off the ultimate pace,  plus (maybe) a bit of 'off the pace' Lewis. 

I wonder what (or why) Bernie was there,  licking boots ??  but looking like a fish out of water.  

Mike-B posted:

I wonder what (or why) Bernie was there,  licking boots ??  but looking like a fish out of water.  

Presumably carrying out his role as "chairman emeritus" of the Formula One Group.  :-)

But yes, congratulations Valtteri.  Lewis appeared a bit out of salts all weekend.

Not F1 related but perhaps still worth mentioning here:

Timo Makinen, one of the original flying Finns of world rallying, has died. He was 79.

The history books will reflect on the hat-tricks the Helsinki-born driver scored on his native 1000 Lakes Rally and on the UK's RAC Rally.

 Flying Finns have dominated rallying down the years, but that success started with Makinen. He made the mould, cut the cloth and on May 4, the lights went down on a true legend of our sport.

It looks like the upgrades Mercedes have bought in for Barcelona have really hit the mark.  The reported changes are all airflow related with a new front end including scoop-shaped turning vanes. The rear end has new bargeboards with vertical fins,  a revised rear wing & re-profiled floor around the rear tyres.

FP1 has only a fag paper between them & nearly a second clear of Raikkonen in 3rd, Vettel was 4th after loosing time with a technical issue.

FP2 had the same fag paper between the Mercs but closed up the times to Ferrari:    Hamilton,  Bottas +0.09 , Raikkonen +0.31 & Vettel +0.118

FP3 has reversed the Mercedes & Ferrari positions,  its now Raikkonen, Vettel,  Hamilton & Bottas,  but only 0.65 secs between them all.  Bottas has a bunch of technical problems, & only managed a few laps.  It seems like Mercedes & Ferrari have upgraded to a similar level & maybe no significant gain one over the other,  nice to see Red Bull have improved.     But its all wait & see for Qualifying.      

Tony2011 posted:

That was team work at its best and Lewis owes Botas big time for holding back Seb. 

On a sadder note it was really heartbreaking seeing that young F1 fan  in tears after his idol(KR) had to retire from the race. 

Hah! Cue much blubbings in the grandstand the first time someone clips the barrier at Monaco..

JamieWednesday posted:
Tony2011 posted:

That was team work at its best and Lewis owes Botas big time for holding back Seb. 

On a sadder note it was really heartbreaking seeing that young F1 fan  in tears after his idol(KR) had to retire from the race. 

Hah! Cue much blubbings in the grandstand the first time someone clips the barrier at Monaco..

The Italians can't resist a crying child though - It got him into the garage where he met Kimi and no doubt got some nice memorabilia!

Great race today. They worked hard & you could hear it.

G

I'm away for the week & I've only just caught the result & race on Ch4+1. Great race, best yet for 2017.

re the little tearful Ferrari fan, Ch4 showed him in the garage meeting KR during the race & them with the teams crowd under the podium for the presentations - looks like he had a great time as a result of KR's mishap & his tears ............. Mike-in-Minsmere

GraemeH posted:
JamieWednesday posted:
Tony2011 posted:

That was team work at its best and Lewis owes Botas big time for holding back Seb. 

On a sadder note it was really heartbreaking seeing that young F1 fan  in tears after his idol(KR) had to retire from the race. 

Hah! Cue much blubbings in the grandstand the first time someone clips the barrier at Monaco..

The Italians can't resist a crying child though - It got him into the garage where he met Kimi and no doubt got some nice memorabilia!

Great race today. They worked hard & you could hear it.

G

Ciao G.the GP was in Spain and the crying child was French,so what Italians got to do with it?��Ave.

Eloise posted:
Tony2011 posted:

 

They (team) certainly have a reputation for making grown men cry!

And

Too perhaps!

That's not funny at all. That's a F1 accident,the one every pilot wants to avoid.Do you really need these pics as samples?If yes,I prefer the boring crying child then.

Fabio 1 posted:
Eloise posted:
Tony2011 posted:

 

They (team) certainly have a reputation for making grown men cry!

And

Too perhaps!

That's not funny at all. That's a F1 accident,the one every pilot wants to avoid.Do you really need these pics as samples?If yes,I prefer the boring crying child then.

Ma dai, Fabio. Tu sei troppo sensibile. It's is just light hearted british humour,man. Chill out. 

Fabio 1 posted:

I see Tony,thanks for your reply,but I simply don't like those pics.

I get your point Fabio and sorry for any offence caused.  They were both (as I recall) failures caused by leaving the driver out too long leading to tire failure rather than accident perse.  I would remove them if I could as I don't want to cause offence.  So feel free to "report" them if you wish them removed.

Eloise posted:
Fabio 1 posted:

I see Tony,thanks for your reply,but I simply don't like those pics.

I get your point Fabio and sorry for any offence caused.  They were both (as I recall) failures caused by leaving the driver out too long leading to tire failure rather than accident perse.  I would remove them if I could as I don't want to cause offence.  So feel free to "report" them if you wish them removed.

Eloise,

I don't see anything wrong with those pictures and they have been splashed in printing and online all over the known press. I hardly believe there's been an outcry for them to be removed or banned. 

Fabio is entitled to express his opinions(sentiments) and so are you. No one is expecting an Italian inquisition!

 

 

GraemeH posted:

Putting them all back in karts at Monaco is my solution for a more interesting race. The Yachterati wouldn't like it of course.

G

100% Graeme.   I've always said Monaco is a non-event.  I've been a few times (fortunately all ex's paid)  its something special for atmosphere, the glamour, the scenery, the eye candy in the harbour & offshore, but its still not a real F1 race.    I've suggested in the past that Monaco is changed to a drivers race with them all driving the same cars,  single seat but a formula with the same car make & power etc to better suit Monaco streets;  that will make it a real drivers race & then we will see who are the best drivers.   But the suggestions went down like a lead balloon.  

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