Football Season 2017/18

MDS posted:

Well, the axe didn't take long to fall on Koeman. Who next for the Toffees I wonder?

I have huge respect for Everton and their passionate fans. I'd like to know what happened there. I don't suppose we'll ever know. Today's Times says RonKo stopped talking to the players as it went skywards.

Yes Mike. When the Beeb ran this story online yesterday, there was a highly rated comment that said, "Bit like the Titanic, he regretted leaving Southampton."

He was very good for Saints but I'm not sure many Saints fans will ever hold much affection for him after he as good as made it clear that the club wasn't big enough for him. And it's proved his undoing, since, according to Henry Winter in today's times, his Barca fixation was his undoing at Goodison.

Christopher_M posted:

Yes Mike. When the Beeb ran this story online yesterday, there was a highly rated comment that said, "Bit like the Titanic, he regretted leaving Southampton."

He was very good for Saints but I'm not sure many Saints fans will ever hold much affection for him after he as good as made it clear that the club wasn't big enough for him. And it's proved his undoing, since, according to Henry Winter in today's times, his Barca fixation was his undoing at Goodison.

That shows some arrogance on Koeman's part.  Everton have fuller trophy cabinet than the Saints but that's some years ago. If the two clubs are compared over the past ten years I think things look much more even.  For example, I've always felt that your lot and Everton have had excellent scouting and youth development set-ups, both bringing talent through to the first-team. Interestingly, Koeman's arrival has seen Everton start splashing the cash on 'name' players, which is not the Everton way.  On football style I think there's a difference. Saints with a more technical and a passing game (ok, I know creativity has been a problem) whereas I've always felt Everton's style is in Stoke/WBA mould i.e. a pressing/physical game and clever at set-pieces.  Looking at the dismal defeat at home to the Gunners, Koeman seems to have moved away from that and the Everton players looked very ill-at-ease.    

Great win by the mighty Hammers last night, dreadful firts half, looked more like training session for the spuds, but second half was a dream, it doesnt happen often...watching West Ham coming from behind so im going to enjoy the win while it lasts, ⚒⚒⚒⚒⚒

beginner posted:

Great win by the mighty Hammers last night, dreadful firts half, looked more like training session for the spuds, but second half was a dream, it doesnt happen often...watching West Ham coming from behind so im going to enjoy the win while it lasts, ⚒⚒⚒⚒⚒

My hope is that Kev has got in touch with his family and told them he is ok.

Well done to the England u-17s. What a great result.  I watched most of the game this afternoon (occasionally switching over to Sky Sports to keep track of domestic scores, of course).  What I particularly liked about England's performance was the confidence and winning mentality. Going 2-0 down against a side as talented as Spain would normally have seen confidence ebb away. It would have with the senior team. Not so this afternoon. These lads stuck to their game plan, showed confidence in their talent and tactics and were handsomely rewarded.  They even withstood the Spanish players resorting to their off-the-ball niggling in the latter stages. I very much hope that a good proportion of these lads work their way through to full international level. That's been the German way for some time and it would be great if England could follow it.

ohhh absolutely !!

Playing in front of a 66,684 sell out crowd in Kolkata would have added to their overall experience.

I thought the tireless Hudson Odoi was a standout apart from Brewster and Foden.

The Brit Grit came to the fore and took the party away from the Spanish armada.

Well done U17 England !

Very well done India - for hosting the largest  ever U17 WC in history !

( The number of football patrons attending the WC matches has broken all previous records held anywhere. )

#proud

 

 

 

MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Yes Mike. When the Beeb ran this story online yesterday, there was a highly rated comment that said, "Bit like the Titanic, he regretted leaving Southampton."

He was very good for Saints but I'm not sure many Saints fans will ever hold much affection for him after he as good as made it clear that the club wasn't big enough for him. And it's proved his undoing, since, according to Henry Winter in today's times, his Barca fixation was his undoing at Goodison.

That shows some arrogance on Koeman's part.  Everton have fuller trophy cabinet than the Saints but that's some years ago. If the two clubs are compared over the past ten years I think things look much more even.  For example, I've always felt that your lot and Everton have had excellent scouting and youth development set-ups, both bringing talent through to the first-team. Interestingly, Koeman's arrival has seen Everton start splashing the cash on 'name' players, which is not the Everton way.  On football style I think there's a difference. Saints with a more technical and a passing game (ok, I know creativity has been a problem) whereas I've always felt Everton's style is in Stoke/WBA mould i.e. a pressing/physical game and clever at set-pieces.  Looking at the dismal defeat at home to the Gunners, Koeman seems to have moved away from that and the Everton players looked very ill-at-ease.    

There was a story “doin’ the rounds” that RK fell out with the SFC board because he was not interested in the Academy. The board’s view was that we could “do the job” (aka challenge for the top, Champion’s League, yada yada yada) with youngsters from the Academy conveyer belt, whereas RK took the view that you need to “splash the cash” if you are serious about succeeding in the Prem. 

mpw posted:

ohhh absolutely !!

Playing in front of a 66,684 sell out crowd in Kolkata would have added to their overall experience.

I thought the tireless Hudson Odoi was a standout apart from Brewster and Foden.

The Brit Grit came to the fore and took the party away from the Spanish armada.

Well done U17 England !

Very well done India - for hosting the largest  ever U17 WC in history !

( The number of football patrons attending the WC matches has broken all previous records held anywhere. )

#proud

 

 

 

Hey mpw,

I haven’t come across your team before. As this is a “footy thread ” would you care to tell us a bit about them?

Suzy Wong posted:
MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Yes Mike. When the Beeb ran this story online yesterday, there was a highly rated comment that said, "Bit like the Titanic, he regretted leaving Southampton."

He was very good for Saints but I'm not sure many Saints fans will ever hold much affection for him after he as good as made it clear that the club wasn't big enough for him. And it's proved his undoing, since, according to Henry Winter in today's times, his Barca fixation was his undoing at Goodison.

That shows some arrogance on Koeman's part.  Everton have fuller trophy cabinet than the Saints but that's some years ago. If the two clubs are compared over the past ten years I think things look much more even.  For example, I've always felt that your lot and Everton have had excellent scouting and youth development set-ups, both bringing talent through to the first-team. Interestingly, Koeman's arrival has seen Everton start splashing the cash on 'name' players, which is not the Everton way.  On football style I think there's a difference. Saints with a more technical and a passing game (ok, I know creativity has been a problem) whereas I've always felt Everton's style is in Stoke/WBA mould i.e. a pressing/physical game and clever at set-pieces.  Looking at the dismal defeat at home to the Gunners, Koeman seems to have moved away from that and the Everton players looked very ill-at-ease.    

There was a story “doin’ the rounds” that RK fell out with the SFC board because he was not interested in the Academy. The board’s view was that we could “do the job” (aka challenge for the top, Champion’s League, yada yada yada) with youngsters from the Academy conveyer belt, whereas RK took the view that you need to “splash the cash” if you are serious about succeeding in the Prem. 

Sounds plausible.

MDS posted:
Suzy Wong posted:
MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:

Yes Mike. When the Beeb ran this story online yesterday, there was a highly rated comment that said, "Bit like the Titanic, he regretted leaving Southampton."

He was very good for Saints but I'm not sure many Saints fans will ever hold much affection for him after he as good as made it clear that the club wasn't big enough for him. And it's proved his undoing, since, according to Henry Winter in today's times, his Barca fixation was his undoing at Goodison.

That shows some arrogance on Koeman's part.  Everton have fuller trophy cabinet than the Saints but that's some years ago. If the two clubs are compared over the past ten years I think things look much more even.  For example, I've always felt that your lot and Everton have had excellent scouting and youth development set-ups, both bringing talent through to the first-team. Interestingly, Koeman's arrival has seen Everton start splashing the cash on 'name' players, which is not the Everton way.  On football style I think there's a difference. Saints with a more technical and a passing game (ok, I know creativity has been a problem) whereas I've always felt Everton's style is in Stoke/WBA mould i.e. a pressing/physical game and clever at set-pieces.  Looking at the dismal defeat at home to the Gunners, Koeman seems to have moved away from that and the Everton players looked very ill-at-ease.    

There was a story “doin’ the rounds” that RK fell out with the SFC board because he was not interested in the Academy. The board’s view was that we could “do the job” (aka challenge for the top, Champion’s League, yada yada yada) with youngsters from the Academy conveyer belt, whereas RK took the view that you need to “splash the cash” if you are serious about succeeding in the Prem. 

Sounds plausible.

RK splashed the cash in the summer at EFC (my team), without conspicuous success. I've seen some rubbish over the years, but this is a new low for EFC - clueless and spineless. What makes it worse is that the hope we had at the start of the season has been so thoroughly extinguished.

Who would want to take over as manager now?

 

Suzy Wong posted:
mpw posted:

ohhh absolutely !!

Playing in front of a 66,684 sell out crowd in Kolkata would have added to their overall experience.

I thought the tireless Hudson Odoi was a standout apart from Brewster and Foden.

The Brit Grit came to the fore and took the party away from the Spanish armada.

Well done U17 England !

Very well done India - for hosting the largest  ever U17 WC in history !

( The number of football patrons attending the WC matches has broken all previous records held anywhere. )

#proud

 

 

 

Hey mpw,

I haven’t come across your team before. As this is a “footy thread ” would you care to tell us a bit about them?

Suzy Wong

U want to make a movie on this ??

Aizawl is the captial of Mizoram state in the North East of India. The lovely folks from our North East are football crazy and and they are blessed with very good football skills.

AFC ( Aizawl Football Club ) is the first club from our NE to with the Hero I- Cup - the top trophy in Indian football. They did this despite

a. Very less money & Zero expectations

b. Had a coach ( who is very good actually ) but did not deliver the results with Mumbai FC and started coaching Aizawl FC

Please do visit aizawlfc.com

In the recently concluded U17 world cup - many of Indian football players are from the North East. They are skilful and fit and trying to make a place for themselves in the football world.

Goa and Kerala, Bengal and Punjab are other areas where football has strong roots and a strong fan base.

Since the last 3 years - ISL - The Indian Super League - has been unearthing talent in India and mixing them with former international ( recently retired ) players so Indian football has a league that has a mix of youth, strong competitive teams and international experience in the changing room and field.

Reliance Industries - is pumping a lot of money into football and the chairperson Mrs Neeta Ambani is quite passionate about this project of hers.

God bless her endeavour !

People are waking up to good football and India will be a good market in the years to come.

Hopefully we will produce talent who will win us some silverware , atleast in Asia to start with.

did not mean to derail this thread and apologies to anyone who feel so.

 

 

VladtheImpala posted:
Christopher_M posted:
VladtheImpala posted:

Who would want to take over as [Everton] manager now?

Big Sam?

That's not lifting my depression! But on current form, maybe necessary.........

Accordingly to my newspaper, Palace still have a £2m buy-out clause n Big Sam.  He has a good track-record at achieving Premier League status though.

Loving the results this weekend and City going 8 points above United.Well pleased they lost at Chelski ha ha !       Great goal from KDB against Arsenal.Sane I really like he always seems to be giving it everything.We seem to have a lot younger squad then last season where there  where alot of players in there early thirties.Now it's more 20 -27.

Good to see Burnley and Brighton and Huddersfield all doing well in the leauge.

West Ham have got to sort out the mess there in ASAP.

Your views Kev ?

As widely predicted, Bilic has just been fired.  Another case of trigger-happy club owners.  A wild-card thought I know, but I wonder if Everton might consider snapping up Bilic? Despite disappointing recent results at WHU, I rate him as a manager.

Christopher_M posted:
beginner posted:

Great win by the mighty Hammers last night, dreadful firts half, looked more like training session for the spuds, but second half was a dream, it doesnt happen often...watching West Ham coming from behind so im going to enjoy the win while it lasts, ⚒⚒⚒⚒⚒

My hope is that Kev has got in touch with his family and told them he is ok.

Was in Cyprus, watching it in a bar with a load of Spuds! Brilliant night!

MDS posted:

As widely predicted, Bilic has just been fired.  Another case of trigger-happy club owners.  A wild-card thought I know, but I wonder if Everton might consider snapping up Bilic? Despite disappointing recent results at WHU, I rate him as a manager.

Slav was a classy bloke, and gave us the best season we've had in decades, but but he'd lost the plot, so I think he had to go. Trouble is, our penny-pinching cheapskate unimaginative owners are most likely to appoint Moyes. I think most WHU fans would rather have stuck with Bilic.

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