I hope its worth it?

After much deliberation I have decided to order two Full Naim Fraims, base plus three shelves in Black.

Having spent sometime researching Racks and looking at other options, I have convinced myself that despite the considerable cost that it will be money well spent.......

I am very much hoping that I won’t be disappointed???????

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The Strat (Fender) posted:

It’s hard to demo a rack isn’t it?   From all accounts it’s worth it.   

I’m sure most dealers are happy to let you demo a black box, speakers, cables, interconnects ect ect

But not a Rack... so as you say from all accounts the general consensus is it’s worth it....

Ancient Mariner posted:

I bought a 3 shelf Fraimlite in December last year after a long time deliberating it. Worth every penny in the end. A huge improvement in every way. I'm sure the full Fraim will be even more impressive.

Ian.

I did consider the fraim lite, but eventually convinced myself I might at some point start thinking about upgrading to full fraim, so just as well bite the bullet.

Certainly pleased to hear you have experienced a huge improvement, that’s reassuring 

Wenger, when I went from a very basic Quadraspire to a full fat Naim Fraim, I enjoyed a significant improvement and that was with a basic Classic system.

I am now on the hunt for a pre-loved Fraim base so I can move to Brains and Brawn separate stacks.

Yes Fraim is expensive but I don't think you will regret it. I too have all-black Fraim and IMHO it looks the best and blends in with the Black Boxes so does not draw too much attention to itself.

Enjoy.

nigelb posted:

Wenger, when I went from a very basic Quadraspire to a full fat Naim Fraim, I enjoyed a significant improvement and that was with a basic Classic system.

I am now on the hunt for a pre-loved Fraim base so I can move to Brains and Brawn separate stacks.

Yes Fraim is expensive but I don't think you will regret it. I too have all-black Fraim and IMHO it looks the best and blends in with the Black Boxes so does not draw too much attention to itself.

Enjoy.

Thanks Nigelb, appreciate the reassurance.

At the moment I have what can only be described as a ‘ropey old rack’ so I’m hoping the difference will be as considerable as the outlay 

In my humble Nova system I was surprised how some parts of a track suddenly seemed to come out of the mix. Having moved system to other side of the room, I was behind the AV stand improving the cable situation. A track that I had been playing for some weeks was on in the background, I then heard notes that then stood out in the mix, was most surprised.

Wenger, I think you will be surprised at the difference a good equipment rack can make. I upgraded my old basic Quadraspire to a SVT2 in Bamboo with the Bronze upgrades last year and was shocked at the improvement I'm sure you will not regret your decision.

Thanks PCD, I was considering the quadraspire myself, it is an extremely good rack.

My excellent dealer gave me an extremely good discount on the Naim Fraim, which encouraged me to opt for the fraim and empty my pockets in the process....

This has been my least confident upgrade so very pleased to have some reassurance 

Jonas Olofsson posted:

From performance perspective it’s a no brainier, you really can’t go wrong. It’s one of Naims best products IMHO. 

//Jonas

PS. Use Chips under the spikes! Very important. 

Silent Mounts are, I think you’ll find, much better.

Jonas Olofsson posted:

@Wenger: Yes. I have heard it on “all” surfaces and it’s always better with chips. Had a very cool demonstration at the Chord factory that blow my mind (and ears) away years ago.

//Jonas

If you have carpet where the Fraim(s) is, can the Chips simply sit on top of the carpet or is it best to make a small incision in the carpet and put the chips under the carpet and the spikes from the Fraim go through the carpet onto the Chips underneath?

I had a chat with Alester from Quadraspire the other day and amongst other things he spoke about their QX7 floor protectors. Although designed for hard surfaces they’ve had many reports of them being used on carpet to great effect. I guess it makes sense as, for example, the spikes on my speakers don’t sit on the top of the carpet, but go through it and the under lay, straight into the wood flooring. I’m going to give a set of QX7s a try on my rack I think. 

JRHardee posted:

In your system photo, you  have the dust cover on your TT. Taking the dust cover off an LP-12 makes an improvement that's immediately obvious. Had you tried that with your TT?

My LP12 used to sound a lot worse without the lid, due to the liberal build-up of dust, cat hair, and other unmentionables that used to accumulate on the platter. Perhaps if they made one you could easily lift off when in use, I might have gone for it.

Silent mounts, Chips, or QX7  floor protectors interesting observations.

I’m thinking I now need to get hold of a set of each and have a demo, I will be effectively upgrading my full Naim Fraim which I didn’t think was possible ...

will have to dig a little deeper into my wallet 

Mort2k posted:

Hi

you won’t be disappointed at all. I made the jump late last year and was astounded at the difference ‘a rack’ made to the system.  

Just spend the time setting it up and you will be v happy 

Rob

Hi Mort2k, 

yes i have read it’s a lengthy construction process... and correct set up is key.

Its reassuring it’s made such a positive difference 

boom posted:

Congratulations Wenger! I have been struggling with this decision for the past few months, and the leap of faith is not getting any easier. I would love to hear how you find the improvements.

Boom

I understand completely, I have been considering this upgrade for a long long time.... 

Its just about the only piece of equipment you just can not demo..so hopefully I will have some positive comments to make when the time comes.... 

Everyone so far has given you positive comments,when I added my Fraim,I would describe the improvements as more subtle,nothing night and day.Cable management and looks are a big plus,and I can sleep well at night knowing my equipment is sitting exactly where it should be...but I would not put it on par with a box upgrade,sorry,just being honest.

Hi, No Quarter, 

searching through some of the threads on Naim Fraim , their are a few comments similar to your own experience ... which is one of the reasons I have deliberated about this upgrade for so long.....I’m reasonably confident that their will be an improvement, it will be interesting to find out just how much

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