Linn Urika connection to NAC 252

Hi

Currently running my LP12 with a Urika connected via Linn-supplied RCA-RCA cables (using RCA Aux2 input).
I'm thinking about upgrading those, as part of an upcoming LP12 upgrade (changing a sub-chassis and an arm). 

Any experiences, suggestions? 

For example would say, SuperLumina RCA > DIN be a noticable and worthwile improvement?

Thanks,

Adam

Adam

Original Post
Chris Dolan posted:

Adam

I changed my Linn Silvers on my Urika for Chord Sarum Super ARAY phono to DIN - I much prefer the Chord to Super Lumina interconnects in my system, but others of course differ.

I love it 

However, what will the rest of the LP12 comprise after your other planned changes?

Thanks.

Essentially it will be a full Klimax specs, except for a catridge.

varyat posted:

Went from Linn Silvers to Chord Sarum STA and then to Super Sarum. This is an upgrade very much worth doing after the rest of the deck is sorted. Make sure you go RCA/Din , the Din makes a difference here !

ATB,

Mark

Thanks Mark.

There are also XLR outputs on the Urika, but I guess it makes no difference wheter RCA or XLR is being used. Or?

I will certainly terminate it with a DIN on the amp end.

Adam

Frank F posted:

Hi Adam,

Phono to DIN is obligatory IMO.  I am using the Chord Sarum STA but it was a special order as the standard length is not long enough on a Fraim but you might get away with a standard length with your set up?  The other consideration is that Chord STA/TAs are very stiff - great for dressing but there can be a lot of strain in the cabling. Obviously SL is much more flexible but it can be compromised by touching things!!

Get your dealer to loan you a phono to DIN STA??????  Naim AROs are excellent if you can find one and IMHO better than Ekos SEs, you must obey Polish drink driving laws if you use an ARO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FF

Hi Frank

Good point with regards to the length. I will need to do some measuring. I'm sure my dealer can lend me some exotic cables - he's used to it by now with me.

I remember you mentioning ARO I always obey the Polish Highway Code (well... Sort of... )

Adam

I changed from Linn silvers (phono/phono) to Super Lumia  phono to din.  Well worth the change, more of everything in the right place on the sound stage.  I had run the SLs in for 200hrs using a CD player on repeat before connecting them to the turntable.

I had rejected the Chord cables on two fronts: firstly I thought they would be too stiff and secondly I had never properly heard them in my system. OK, I hear and respsct the gasps of dismay.

Subsequently I've replaced S/L signal cables*  with Super Array for all the right reasons - the SA are superb!  However the S/L Urika to 552 remains in place, as do the S/L speaker cables.   Both life and money are too short to do any further changes on these two fronts !

*  NDS to 552 & 552PS to 500

Adam Zielinski posted:
I remember you mentioning ARO I always obey the Polish Highway Code (well... Sort of... )

Adam

since you "drive 55" -- as we say here in the States -- i will mention that there's a very nice Aro available in the USA at the moment...

Frank F posted:
Chris Dolan posted:
Frank F posted:

Naim AROs are excellent if you can find one and IMHO better than Ekos SEs

Aros are indeed excellent, but compatible Keels can be hard to come by unless you know the right man 

Yes, the ARO Keel is also rare but as Chris says, there are dealers who know.

FF

Ok - now I'm curious

I think I will email this chap.

joe9407 posted:
Adam Zielinski posted:
I remember you mentioning ARO I always obey the Polish Highway Code (well... Sort of... )

Adam

since you "drive 55" -- as we say here in the States -- i will mention that there's a very nice Aro available in the USA at the moment...

Yes, that is a nice one for sure ! Given the asking price it would be an excellent alternative to the Ekos SE for someone looking for a new arm for their LP12  !

ATB,

Mark

Linn Silvers to Super Lumina RCA-DIN on an Aro/Kandid/Keel/Urethra equipped gramophone here. A huge improvement; allowing for the usual run-in issues, and albeit as part of a SL full loom.

Interestingly; I've discovered that if I have a period of several weeks not playing vinyl; when I return to the black-platter spinner, it sounds like the SL interconnect needs waking-up again, or a sort of mini run-in to bring back its full potential.

Wires eh? Weird.

John.

Adam Zielinski posted:
Frank F posted:
Chris Dolan posted:
Frank F posted:

Naim AROs are excellent if you can find one and IMHO better than Ekos SEs

Aros are indeed excellent, but compatible Keels can be hard to come by unless you know the right man 

Yes, the ARO Keel is also rare but as Chris says, there are dealers who know.

Ok - now I'm curious  I think I will email this chap.

Adam - I know that Peter Swain at Cymbiosis recently had more Aro Keels in stock - finding an Aro might be more difficult

Chord Super Sarum Aray has a musical gain in SQ that outclasses SL cable.

The white shielded cable has a useful rigidity that is very helpful with cable dressing.

The RCA/DIN [Urika to Naim-Pre] can be purchased from Cymbiosis at an optional 1.2 meter length [instead of 1 meter]

Chord SSA interconnects are a massive musical upgrade over the standard cables or Highlines, and present excellent synergy when used together as a full SSA i/c loom. A further advantage is the excellent compatibility with NAC A5, this presents the wonderful option of not feeling the need to spend thousands more on very expensive speaker cables.

Debs 

Frank - I have a meeting with my dealer next week to discuss the financials of the upgrade. Most likely will go for Ekos SE - mostly for the ease of use Don't want to frighten Ewa too  much.

I also mentioned to him that he should start thinking about the Chord SSA cable for the upgrade and calculate the suitable discounts

 

 

Frank F posted:
Adam Zielinski posted:

Frank - I have a meeting with my dealer next week to discuss the financials of the upgrade. Most likely will go for Ekos SE - mostly for the ease of use Don't want to frighten Ewa too  much.

I also mentioned to him that he should start thinking about the Chord SSA cable for the upgrade and calculate the suitable discounts

 

 

Hi Adam,

Yes, we have to keep the dealers on their toes.  The money is better spent on those absolutely superb hamburgers .  I tried Linn silvers with a phono to din adaptor, HiLine and neither came close to Good old lavender but Chord STA went way beyond any of them and from reports SSA is even better.

FF

Debs, it must be the odd angle (of the photo).

FF

Hi Frank

I've just realised I'm a complete idiot - I actually have Chord Signature Tuned Aray and I waste it on my AV set up. Dohhhhh...
Will swap it around to my Rega RP10 and for the AV connection use regular RCA - RCA cable (ok - it' still quite good Tellurium Q Black Diamond).

For the LP 12 I will most likely go for the Chord Sarum Super Aray.

Adam

tonym posted:
naim_nymph posted:
Frank F posted:

Debs, are your cables are touching??

FF

no mine aren't, why are yours?  

Debs

I, too, found that photo of your cables strangely touching Debs (*sob*).

That photo [like most photos] is only two dimensional which gives a false impression, fortunately in real life there is another dimension which gives cables far more room : )

Also, that's a photo from April [during a home trail of SSA speaker cable] the whole system has been unplugged and replugged at least twice since back then so it will look slightly different now but i can confirm there are still no touching cables!

Probably best not to be picky looking for faults that don't exist, just relax and enjoy the splendid view of the fabulous SSA cable loom : )

Debs

 

Having examined Debs's photo further, I'm intrigued by what appears to be a red horseshoe magnet on the floor. I speculate this is positioned to attract any Fraim balls that inadvertenty fall down when the units are moved. There's probably a thin chord, invisible in the photo, that allows retrieval. 

The mystery object lying on the floor, is a very special tool; The Burndy Connector Gripper : )

Anyone with a little arthritis in their hands, and having the occasional job of loosening rather tightly clamped up Burndy [or bunch of them] may want to own one of these very special and specialist tools.

An excellent investment made few years ago from Tesco for 99p 

It will, however, need some modification with a sharp tool, the gripper needs an open aspect rather than enclosed in a loop. The thing is made from soft rubber so is harmless to the connector but allows one better purchase grip [just for the little bit of initial turning]  with no loss of skin from finger tips. 

Was thinking of buying a hundred of them, cutting them down to size, and re-marketing them as a patent Nymph Industries Burndy Connector Loosening Tool: price $99.99 available while stocks last.

TBH i'm very capable of removing tight fitting jar lids, but don't ask me to undo a tight@$$ burndy cable connector

Debs

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