Naim new products 2018

Nothing stays the same, not should it IMHO. I prefer the new design and would happily see those principles applied to all new products from now on (of course, with adaptation for function). 

I sometimes feel that members of this forum would like Naim to stay the same forever; no new design, no new technology, no Chinese-made Musos sold through non-specialist retail, no Spotify, no new app . . . and bring back the Aro. 

Not me. I hope they GO BIG and introduce the new design across all their new products, and continue to innovate. 

I’m more than happy with the idea of introducing new technology, so long as it’s better, and own two QBs, which I think look lovely. The new design is fine for stand alone Unitis, but in my view a stack of six boxes with plastic bars at the bottom and heat sinks at the side would look awful. Anyway, based on what I’ve picked up from Naim people, it’s not going to happen, other than introducing a new screen for the streamers. Hopefully we will know more after the Bristol show. 

Agree the new facia design screen etc looks fine on the uniti range and definitely caters for the younger audience Naim is rightly looking to attract. However it should stick to the fundamentals of the classic design as much as possible which, as others have said, I understand to be the decision. The classic design has a real quality look and feel which is different to the uniti line.

Solid Air posted:

Nothing stays the same, not should it IMHO. I prefer the new design and would happily see those principles applied to all new products from now on (of course, with adaptation for function). 

I sometimes feel that members of this forum would like Naim to stay the same forever; no new design, no new technology, no Chinese-made Musos sold through non-specialist retail, no Spotify, no new app . . . and bring back the Aro. 

Not me. I hope they GO BIG and introduce the new design across all their new products, and continue to innovate. 

I’m all for change - I own one of those new fangled Uniti Stars - but I’d like an updated ARO (with a Naim designed turntable) but we all know that’s not going to happen 😜

These kinds of thread are always a bit like deja vu. Do you remember the uproar that came with the change from Olive to the current Classic look...?

Still, it’s fun to read all the speculation of what may (or may not) come at some point in the future. Personally I like the Naim record player idea. Same as I do every year... 

If this is time and place to wish upon Naim's Star, may I wish for following:

  1. Naim voiced speakers from Naim, or big brother Focal, active would be nice and looking back to SBL or SL2 would be welcome.
  2. Speaker section on Forum to centralize the challenges of matching and endless discovery/learning experiences so many have.
  3. Audio support section on Forum that addresses cables, stands, mains, placement.

Much of the above is floating around the Forum, but would be nice to centralize access of these subjects and have more active input from Naim. At the end of the day Naim is really vendor of art supplies offering electronics as others do canvases, paints & brushes. Aspiration to acquire for many is search for beauty, refinement and recognition of musical truth that Naim advances, patronizes and profits as art dealers and galleries may do. I wish they articulated that mission/vision out loud. Otherwise we are left with audio stores are often  distracting cacophony where art of audio and its search for beauty is if not denied than forgotten.          

Richard Dane posted:

These kinds of thread are always a bit like deja vu. Do you remember the uproar that came with the change from Olive to the current Classic look...?

Still, it’s fun to read all the speculation of what may (or may not) come at some point in the future. Personally I like the Naim record player idea. Same as I do every year... 

I think we should have a contest to name the new Naim record player!  

How about the Beau?  Means handsome in French.  Beau and Aro?  

Hook posted:
Richard Dane posted:

These kinds of thread are always a bit like deja vu. Do you remember the uproar that came with the change from Olive to the current Classic look...?

Still, it’s fun to read all the speculation of what may (or may not) come at some point in the future. Personally I like the Naim record player idea. Same as I do every year... 

I think we should have a contest to name the new Naim record player!  

How about the Beau?  Means handsome in French.  Beau and Aro?  

On that theme, how about the Agincourt? Might give those French guys rise to the challenge and make some decent speakers 

The eNaimble Turntable. This turntable will be so good it will sound like it is from another planet and hence the name will be shortened to the ET. There might even be an entry level turntable made of clear plastic with Naim etched on the side and lit with a white light, called the Uniti ET.

I'll get me coat.

I agree keep the look of the current classic cases not keen on the Nova casing.

Future: We all know the longevity of Naim Pre amps like the 72/52 etc how about modular DACs like plug internal Phono stages.

DACs at the moment seem to take a leap forward in technology every few months take the 272 wouldn't it be nice on a future model to be able to remove the DAC and replace it with the latest spec without replacing the Pre.

 

HiFiman posted:

I agree keep the look of the current classic cases not keen on the Nova casing.

Future: We all know the longevity of Naim Pre amps like the 72/52 etc how about modular DACs like plug internal Phono stages.

DACs at the moment seem to take a leap forward in technology every few months take the 272 wouldn't it be nice on a future model to be able to remove the DAC and replace it with the latest spec without replacing the Pre.

 

A modular dac is a very good idea. Accuphase and McIntosh offer this with their integrated amplifiers.

ChrisSU posted:
Hook posted:
Richard Dane posted:

These kinds of thread are always a bit like deja vu. Do you remember the uproar that came with the change from Olive to the current Classic look...?

Still, it’s fun to read all the speculation of what may (or may not) come at some point in the future. Personally I like the Naim record player idea. Same as I do every year... 

I think we should have a contest to name the new Naim record player!  

How about the Beau?  Means handsome in French.  Beau and Aro?  

On that theme, how about the Agincourt? Might give those French guys rise to the challenge and make some decent speakers 

Apertura french speakers, work very well with naim.  From 2k to 20k.  A bit sonus faber sound, but more dynamic and speed.  

elkman70 posted:

With LED tech now we’ll developed it should be very simple, without detriment to quality, to give an option for green or white via the built in software of any new product.

 

 

I was at the factory just over a year ago and one of the things that got discussed was why the new Unitis have white logos and not green. I gather they did try green out, but it just didn't look right, not nearly as good as white anyway. So they stuck with white....

best

David

Personally, I think the streamers and Uniti range is doomed unless the software gets sorted soon.

I have an nDAC and NAS which provides all I needed. The Panasonic Viera TV range uPnP support connects to the NAS which only has Twonky Media Server and provides brilliant replay through even a AQ Forrest optical cable, which keeps the crap away from the HiFi. Others use fibre bridges to achieve the same with their streamers.

I have compared with my CDX2 via DC1 into the nDAC, NDX, UnitiServe SSD and Core, and the SQ difference of the TV as a player is only noticeable with high frequencies. 

TIDAL and other source played from an iPad via the nDAC front USB port sound better than the NDX analogue output even with an XPSDR connected.

My RP10 turntable still has the edge. 

So I think Naim should go back to their routes.

Phil

ChrisSU posted:

I think it is ludicrous to suggest that Naim will release new, updated products in the old casing. They never did that when they moved from CB to olive, or from olive to triptych, and why on Earth would they do it now? Naim have very carefully worded their intentions that existing Classic products will not be put into new style boxes, but as the new products will no doubt have new names and different innards, why would anybody think to put them in the old style boxes?  

"I think it is ludicrous to suggest that Naim will release new, updated products in the old casing......"

Well Chris..... they did! I think the new streamers look great in the classic casing.

Popeye posted:

For me all I hope is that Naim will keep the look and feel of the existing classics range as for me for many years I have always aspired for that little green logo!!

I can only hope they don't change everything to the Lok and feel of the new Uniti range and the modern white logo! 😟

"For me all I hope is that Naim will keep the look and feel of the existing classics range"

And they did!!  

I'm happy with the new look as it allows me to replace my 272 and keep my 250.

But I would also need a pre-amp!!! Not the outdated 252/282 with their oversensitive volume control and double row of buttons, but a modern pre-amp with HDMI functionality. Anxiously waiting for its release!

Please refer to my first post on page 1.

Was I right or was I right?

just need the crossovers to appear later in the year.

 

this really was a very obvious product launch will generate lots of sales the investors

in naim will be pleased about this one.

 

 

 

 

Bert posted:
ChrisSU posted:

I think it is ludicrous to suggest that Naim will release new, updated products in the old casing. They never did that when they moved from CB to olive, or from olive to triptych, and why on Earth would they do it now? Naim have very carefully worded their intentions that existing Classic products will not be put into new style boxes, but as the new products will no doubt have new names and different innards, why would anybody think to put them in the old style boxes?  

"I think it is ludicrous to suggest that Naim will release new, updated products in the old casing......"

Well Chris..... they did! I think the new streamers look great in the classic casing.

They’re just softening the blow for all you diehards by introducing new features gradually 

The Strat (Fender) posted:

What a bunch of moaners.  I want white lights, I want green......

And as HH rightly says “new”is fine provided.........

Totally agree. Please correct me if I am wrong, music, recording techniques and production have all evolved over time. Even more so, digital media has largely overtaken physical media like CDs and interfacing with devices have also evolved a whole lot thanks to such as Apple for touch screens and IOT, WiFi, etc. My first computer had a hercules monitor - green but I love the retina display. I also love the touch strip. It changes with application and it can be customised. 

IMHO, Uniti Atom is a beautiful product. Volume control is touch controlled covering most of the top surface, full colour screen in front also covers much of the front. The casing also act as heat sink. These are good. Would be awesome if Nova and Star have LED screen covering the entire front face and are touch screens. So many have complained about the remote control with shiny surface is a finger print magnet. Naim can definitely use more UX in product design. Personally, SQ is most important but overall experience doesn't end with SQ. It should include upgradeability, customer support and more. I am not saying the old Naim products are not beautiful, but I don't think they are iconic enough to have to maintain that look. In fact, given one of Naim's main selling point is the transformer. Perhaps it should be designed like some tube amp where it proudly sticks out. Alternatively, have clear casing so owner can admire all its beautiful components. Just kidding because that won't radiate heat effectively, and showing off Tecs slot drive at the top of Star will probably hurt more than help.

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