Naim SL2 grills

Piotr1 posted:

Thank you guys!

Unfortunately Naim do not have anymore.

I will ask TomTom but I am afraid that they wouldn't have also ....

let us know if you find a source... i'd be interested too... mine are still OK but it could be a good idea to have a spare pair

enjoy

ken

Mine too are looking ok for the moment but the Velcro contacts are forever leaving bits on the light carpet which displeases someone.

I seem to recall a post somewhere that suggested if enough people were interested then some could be custom made to original spec.

If I can find it I will re-post - I am sure there would be enough interest to make it feasible for someone with specialist knowledge or resource to consider

Ron

 

 

 

Mark from speakergrillsdotcouk was planning to produce SL2 grills but was having some technical difficulties the last time I emailed him about 6 months ago. He does do SBL and IBL replacements. Maybe be worth those that are interested in SL2 grills contacting him so he can gauge demand.

Piotr1 posted:

Where to buy them?

Who can help in this case?

I will be grateful for any informations.

regards,

Piotr



Moderated Post:  Rui, anything you wish to say should be said here on this thread, so long as it complies with forum rules. And if it doesn't comply with the rules of the forum then best not mentioned at all...

I found material called "Bulpren" and it looks very similar to original.

Bulpren is used in professional audio as sound transmissive material to make loudspeakers grills ...

Now have to find someone who is able to cut it to correct size ....

not so easy ....

 

I was collaborating with Mark a while back and provided a drawing.  I haven't heard from him in quite a while. The grille incorporates some complex curves and is not easy to replicate, so maybe this has caused the stall.   If Naim would be prepared to divulge the name of their original supplier, we'd be off to the races.

In my case, hot weather and hight humidity decayed the foam into black powder, over the course of  seven or eight years.  Fortunately I was able to buy a new set of grills from Naim before they ran out.  Actually, the replacements were not quite as wide as the originals, but they fit just fine.

I'm beginning to see the traces of black powder on the lower box top ledge, so a sign that my SL2 grilles are beginning to crumble.  I have been told that if it gets really bad then stiff hairspray can act as a temporary "cure" .  I'm not sure I would trust that though.  I will keep them as is for as long as they hold together and then worry about replacements when the time comes.

Jonn posted:

Mark from speakergrillsdotcouk was planning to produce SL2 grills but was having some technical difficulties the last time I emailed him about 6 months ago. He does do SBL and IBL replacements. Maybe be worth those that are interested in SL2 grills contacting him so he can gauge demand.

I emailed him for DBL grills, but no reply...

Rui Marques posted:
Piotr1 posted:

Where to buy them?

Who can help in this case?

I will be grateful for any informations.

regards,

Piotr



Moderated Post:  Rui, anything you wish to say should be said here on this thread, so long as it complies with forum rules. And if it doesn't comply with the rules of the forum then best not mentioned at all...

I don't know exactly what "rule" i have broken, many times i saw members asking (suggesting) other forms of contact (mp) outside of the thread and never saw any kind of moderation.

I no longer wish to say anything ... really, is better to get out of here.

Rui, I don't discuss moderation matters concerning other members.  

However, perhaps some further word is to expand on my comment to you that I put on your post;  There are no PMs here for good reason - primarily it's to protect the membership from possible solicitation, a problem that seems to be getting worse these days on forums where such things are still allowed, secondly, it's to ensure that forum rules regarding sales or wants are not circumvented.  Posting e-mail addresses on a public forum is strongly discouraged as web-bots are constantly out harvesting these for junk mail or worse - moderators remove these wherever they are seen to be posted.

If you wish to make contact with another member then there is a wall feature for personal discussion - however, it is open and viewable to all members and subject to forum rules.

Richard Dane posted:

I'm beginning to see the traces of black powder on the lower box top ledge, so a sign that my SL2 grilles are beginning to crumble.  I have been told that if it gets really bad then stiff hairspray can act as a temporary "cure" .  I'm not sure I would trust that though.  I will keep them as is for as long as they hold together and then worry about replacements when the time comes.

I do wonder if there's something a bit more scientific you could apply to the foams that'd help them stop deteriorating. A light Viagra solution perhaps? I guess it's light that's the main culprit.

It's amazing what you can discover with Google, isn't it? Amongst the suggestions - peanut butter (not sure a thick layer would be beneficial to sound quality), anti-fungal cream (suggestions foam rot's caused by a fungus. See scholl Athlete's Foot powder sales rocket!). However, in amongst these suggestions I happen to have stumbled across the perfect answer, and it's all very straightforward - just change the air in your listening room for pure nitrogen! Job done!

Now watch all the moaning little toadies come up with something negative...

Just had this response from Mark at speakergrills:

I'm still working on a prototype. I am actually retired and only work a couple of afternoons, most of which is spent on SBLs, Saras etc. I'm still hopeful on the SL2s but afraid everyone's gonna have to be patient.

Cheers,

Mark.

it might help to know how many SL2 owners need new grills right now.Mine are still OK, but i would be interested in purchasing a new pair -- provided they can be stored safely.

if we know this number we could then trawl around and see who can make these for us and at what price/quality. i guess this would only make sense if its a win-win situation -- i.e. the manufacturer would charge a reasonable premium for this one-off run?

but as i say above -- it depends on how many would be interested in this.

failing that -- are there alternatives that Naim Audio would recommend? I am thinking of some arrangement such as on the NBLs for example -- where i assume the cloth would not deteriorate that much over time?

any thoughts? does this need a new thread? i hope there is enough interest to pursue this a bit more?

enjoy

ken

 

Like you Ken, mine are OK for now but I would certainly order replacements at a "reasonable"  price.

My pricepoint would be £200 a pair which, if the finish and fit is as good as the originals, seems fair to restore speakers which at todays prices would be iin excess of £7k.

As with others mind are still in good shape however my experience with Ibls suggests that this can change very quickly. They went from possible to dust in about 12 months. Would anticipate the need for replacements at some point before my as yet unscheduled demise.

 

Willy.

what i was thinking of was that, if we had high enough interest (reflected in numbers prepared to buy a pair) then we could perhaps approach a dealer who is best positioned to pursue this for us, find a potential supplier, check that the product is OK etc. Given the likely (very?) low volumes involved -- i suspect the unit cost will not be "low" -- and the dealer would obviously want to make a turn.

but perhaps you guys know an easier way? right now we dont even have a supplier --so a bit hopeless really...

enjoy...

ken

ken c posted:

what i was thinking of was that, if we had high enough interest (reflected in numbers prepared to buy a pair) then we could perhaps approach a dealer who is best positioned to pursue this for us, find a potential supplier, check that the product is OK etc. Given the likely (very?) low volumes involved -- i suspect the unit cost will not be "low" -- and the dealer would obviously want to make a turn.

but perhaps you guys know an easier way? right now we dont even have a supplier --so a bit hopeless really...

enjoy...

ken

James at Tom Tom is the obvious source, as he has found replicas for the SBL. My grilles are fine, but they are only eight years old. 

Christopher_M posted:
Frank Abela posted:

Mine remain perfect but I have moved to Malta which is hot and humid so I would appreciate having a 2nd pair, and if they fit I'll keep them in the wine cooler at a steady 16 degrees.

Frank.

I think UV may be a degrading factor too.

C.

And stick something on the front to block out the UV...!

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