Naim Unitiqute 2 VS Uniti Atom?

DomTomLondon posted:

I'm also waiting for the Atom very impatiently. Sold my unitiQute (V1) a few weeks ago, and have a buyer for the NAP100. Put an order in for the Atom and was hoping to have it for the Christmas holidays, but unfortunately, (or perhaps fortunately) Naim is taking their time to get the new Uniti units out the door.

I had a quick listen to the Atom at the hi-fi show in Hammersmith a few months back, and I have no doubts that this is going to be a good upgrade from the Qute/NAP100 combo.

But the wait is killing me....

Ha ha ha i am not the only one 

i want naim to take their time if product is right. It kills me but sick of being a beta customer 

I am very pleased that you liked it. If you had the nap 100, that's a potent amplifier to beat. 

Hopefully a Jan launch 

Richard Dane posted:

I agree with Tony, the Atom was initially quite impressive - particularly in the more cosmetic areas such as top/bottom/mid, and ability to project a room filling sound with plenty of detail to the fore.  Taking into account the speakers hanging off the end of it, giving it nowhere to hide, this was more than I expected. However, by contrast the Nova really showed what more money, and hence a more capable unit brings, particularly in making sense of the music, with everyone/everything suddenly playing together rather than drawing attention to disparate parts of the recording mix.  

Hi Richard,

I am a new member of the forum and have recently put a deposit on a Uniti Atom, for my new venture into streaming audio content. I would love to get the Nova but don't as yet have the sufficient budget. My thinking is, that in the near future, I can upgrade the Atom with a very good Power Amplifier of around £1800 budget and achieve a similar quality of sound to that of the Nova. Am I correct in thinking that the front end of the Atom and Nova are the same, hence this possibility would be realistic? 

I could, as a temporary solution, use my Musical Fidelity XP200 Power Amplifier with the Atom until I can afford the next upgrade. I currently have Monitor Audio GS20 speakers that will be used with the Atom, too.

Your thoughts on this will be appreciated, thanks, Andrew.

 

I know you are asking Richard and no doubt he will reply, but I think it would be very surprising if the only or even main difference between the Atom and the Nova was the power amplifier. If you take the example of the SuperUniti and the UnitiQute 2 which are the equivalent models in the old range, the SuperUniti has a better DAC for example and I am sure there are many such changes between Atom and Nova.

The Atom should keep its value reasonably well so I suggest it would be better to sell it and buy a Nova when you have the cash available rather than spend a similar sum adding an external amplifier to the Atom.

best

David

Dreamblademyth posted:
Richard Dane posted:

I agree with Tony, the Atom was initially quite impressive - particularly in the more cosmetic areas such as top/bottom/mid, and ability to project a room filling sound with plenty of detail to the fore.  Taking into account the speakers hanging off the end of it, giving it nowhere to hide, this was more than I expected. However, by contrast the Nova really showed what more money, and hence a more capable unit brings, particularly in making sense of the music, with everyone/everything suddenly playing together rather than drawing attention to disparate parts of the recording mix.  

Hi Richard,

I am a new member of the forum and have recently put a deposit on a Uniti Atom, for my new venture into streaming audio content. I would love to get the Nova but don't as yet have the sufficient budget. My thinking is, that in the near future, I can upgrade the Atom with a very good Power Amplifier of around £1800 budget and achieve a similar quality of sound to that of the Nova. Am I correct in thinking that the front end of the Atom and Nova are the same, hence this possibility would be realistic? 

I could, as a temporary solution, use my Musical Fidelity XP200 Power Amplifier with the Atom until I can afford the next upgrade. I currently have Monitor Audio GS20 speakers that will be used with the Atom, too.

Your thoughts on this will be appreciated, thanks, Andrew.

 

I am also going for the atom. The star interest me but I don't believe it is worth the extra cash versus the atom. The qute2 and naim are known to always punch above their weight and the atom is apparently (spec and initial feedback) improving on most aspects. 

I don't play the upgrade game and like one neat solution. I recommend looking first how the Atom perform with your existing system. That will save you lots of money for perhaps other useful things (oled TV, other speakers,...)

i could add a nap later but really don't want to. The Atom should be able to drive most speakers 

Waiting for the atom big time !!!! 

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the feedback. I talked to my local NAIM dealer earlier and he informed me that the Atom will not be available until at least May, now. So, knowing that, I will take a rain check on whether to save up and invest the extra for the Nova, after having a demo of both models. I love the concept of the one component solution rather than separates, as I currently have.

It seems that there is a software problem with the new models that they are still in the process of resolving. 

The wait is on!

DomTomLondon posted:

I had a quick listen to the Atom at the hi-fi show in Hammersmith a few months back, and I have no doubts that this is going to be a good upgrade from the Qute/NAP100 combo.

 

So you say the new "all in one" better the UQ with seperate poweramp ?

Uhh

Dreamblademyth posted:

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the feedback. I talked to my local NAIM dealer earlier and he informed me that the Atom will not be available until at least May, now. So, knowing that, I will take a rain check on whether to save up and invest the extra for the Nova, after having a demo of both models. I love the concept of the one component solution rather than separates, as I currently have.

It seems that there is a software problem with the new models that they are still in the process of resolving. 

The wait is on!

That's very poor 

this delay may make me consider the star as I may have more time to save for it

i will decide after listening to both 

just pissed off as April may is an eternity 

 

 

b_lund posted:
DomTomLondon posted:

I had a quick listen to the Atom at the hi-fi show in Hammersmith a few months back, and I have no doubts that this is going to be a good upgrade from the Qute/NAP100 combo.

 

So you say the new "all in one" better the UQ with seperate poweramp ?

Uhh

I can't say for sure whether the Atom is better than the Qute+NAP100. As I only heard the Atom at the Hi-Fi show last year and it was powering a pair of £7000 Focal speakers. However it managed to drive the speakers quite easily and fill a large room very well.  So I would say it should be better or at least on par with the Qute+NAP100 combo.

Kermit posted:

Of course, the Qute on its own also sounds better than the Qute/100 combo!! So the Atom should definsound better.

That seems very contextual. Some say one thing, some another, suggesting there's another variable. My guess is the speakers have a big effect. It would be interesting to find out whether those using harder to drive speakers such as ATC find the 100 an improvement, while those with easier speakers like Focal 906 don't. Certainly, the mix of opinion suggests your blanket statement is misplaced.

I like some in this thread have heard the Atom, Star and Nova into a pair of quite demanding Focal Sopra No1 speakers... the Atom relatively did fine.. but compared to the other two the music was more shut in, lesser dynamics, had lesser presence and more of a filtered sound. The Nova to me sounded significantly better.. recordings sounded more open, like like, insightful..and ultimately a lot more enjoyable... but this is exactly what you would expect for the money. I think the Atom into a pair of smaller, cheaper speakers would work well in many smaller rooms, albeit perhaps not optimum for immersive listening sessions... you don't get something for nothing.....

To be honest, I am not sure anymore if I simply don't keep my qute2 and get a super dac/steamer with digital in into the qute2?

anyone doing that ? Any recommendations?

Some ultra uhd player also act as good streamers so may hit two birds with one stone .

i like atom but tired of waiting right now plus to be honest, qute2 at the price I paid it is like the bargain of the century. 

I agree with you re my sweeping statement. Do yourself a favour and keep your Qute, when all the initial excitement is over re the new Unii series, it will still be a sought after bit of kit. Fools rush out to buy the latest regardless of cost, you Are one step ahead of those and bought something that is almost as good (better if you value radio) for half the money. Surely a no brainier, stop trying to chase the latest thing and just enjoy the noise it makes.

Hungryhalibut posted:

Putting a streamer and DAC into a Qute, which is these things already, would be a bizarre choice. Why not just do nothing and wait until you can hear the Atom, then decide. 

I was trying to compensate for the functionality I am missing from the qute2

but ultimately, you are right. Doesn't make sense 

There have been some talk in these forums that a new firmware has improved the sound quality of the Atom even more. So don't rush to buy something else until you hear it first, Crabby. 

This is from just one reviewer/retailer at the moment, but It has got me exited to finally get my Atom.

DomTomLondon posted:

There have been some talk in these forums that a new firmware has improved the sound quality of the Atom even more. So don't rush to buy something else until you hear it first, Crabby. 

This is from just one reviewer/retailer at the moment, but It has got me exited to finally get my Atom.

Are you sure to return back at your dealer the Superuniti for the Atom?

Anto68 posted:
DomTomLondon posted:

There have been some talk in these forums that a new firmware has improved the sound quality of the Atom even more. So don't rush to buy something else until you hear it first, Crabby. 

This is from just one reviewer/retailer at the moment, but It has got me exited to finally get my Atom.

Are you sure to return back at your dealer the Superuniti for the Atom?

Well, this is what I'm waiting to find out. the SuperUniti sounds very good and it's really grown on me. I almost prefer the look of it over the new units range too. So I need to audition both with my LS50s, to decide whether the new features and sound quality of the Atom, will be good enough for me. Or do I find some extra cash, and keep the SuperUniti right were it now sits.

DomTomLondon posted:
Anto68 posted:
DomTomLondon posted:

There have been some talk in these forums that a new firmware has improved the sound quality of the Atom even more. So don't rush to buy something else until you hear it first, Crabby. 

This is from just one reviewer/retailer at the moment, but It has got me exited to finally get my Atom.

Are you sure to return back at your dealer the Superuniti for the Atom?

Well, this is what I'm waiting to find out. the SuperUniti sounds very good and it's really grown on me. I almost prefer the look of it over the new units range too. So I need to audition both with my LS50s, to decide whether the new features and sound quality of the Atom, will be good enough for me. Or do I find some extra cash, and keep the SuperUniti right were it now sits.

Thanks for the heads up. Where did you hear about that firmware update and improvement to atom sound?

what speaker cable you using please with ls50?

very impressed that you comparing an atom to SU. 

Crabby posted:
DomTomLondon posted:
Anto68 posted:
DomTomLondon posted:

There have been some talk in these forums that a new firmware has improved the sound quality of the Atom even more. So don't rush to buy something else until you hear it first, Crabby. 

This is from just one reviewer/retailer at the moment, but It has got me exited to finally get my Atom.

Are you sure to return back at your dealer the Superuniti for the Atom?

Well, this is what I'm waiting to find out. the SuperUniti sounds very good and it's really grown on me. I almost prefer the look of it over the new units range too. So I need to audition both with my LS50s, to decide whether the new features and sound quality of the Atom, will be good enough for me. Or do I find some extra cash, and keep the SuperUniti right were it now sits.

Thanks for the heads up. Where did you hear about that firmware update and improvement to atom sound?

what speaker cable you using please with ls50?

very impressed that you comparing an atom to SU. 

Hey Crabby,

I see you found the other thread about the Atom firmware update and powerline. All great news if true!

I have a pair of Chord Carnival cables at the moment. But in the process of getting some NACA5 cables to try out. 

As for the comparison. It's only because I had sold my Qute/NAP100 and my dealer has lent me the SuperUniti until the Atom arrives. So that's the reason why I'll be auditioning them side by side. I know it's not really a fair comparison, but who knows, maybe the Atom will hold its own quite well.

Good news indeed. I could not resist digging 

I just wish he just applied the firmware as the power line addition make it difficult to assess the true performance gain 

now, the atom seems promising. The delay is making me consider the star but I am very aware of the serious price differential. The atom will remain a hot favourite until I hear it myself. My place is tiny and qute2 was very ok with ls50. The atom may add that little something to just make it right...

an SU is a serious peace of kit. Only reason Atom interest me is the new open architecture and functionalities. Time will tell but you have a hard call with SU...very hard 

 

The superuniti is able to drive serious speakers like the Dynaudio Contour 20 or the B&W 805 D3. I think the Kef ls50 are undersized to show what it's really capable, it is a very small monitor with clean and detailed sound but with its obvious limits in terms of authority power and punch, I think it is a great match with the Atom 

Anto68 posted:

The superuniti is able to drive serious speakers like the Dynaudio Contour 20 or the B&W 805 D3. I think the Kef ls50 are undersized to show what it's really capable, it is a very small monitor with clean and detailed sound but with its obvious limits in terms of authority power and punch, I think it is a great match with the Atom 

Anto, I am sure the SU can drive much better/bigger speakers (as it should for that price), and it will also be somewhat wasted on the LS50s. At the moment the KEFs are all I really need in my listening space (4mx5m) However, I will need to make a decision once the Atom arrives. Do I match the Atom with the LS50s and leave it at that. As I know that if I spring for the SuperUniti now, I will be tempted to upgrade to some more appropriate speakers later, when my finances (and the missus) allow.

Crabby, I've also been debating the idea of going for the Star instead of the Atom. I'm not convinced that it would be a good investment however, especially when I could get the SU for a much better price, I also don't need a CD player.

DomTomLondon posted:
Anto68 posted:

The superuniti is able to drive serious speakers like the Dynaudio Contour 20 or the B&W 805 D3. I think the Kef ls50 are undersized to show what it's really capable, it is a very small monitor with clean and detailed sound but with its obvious limits in terms of authority power and punch, I think it is a great match with the Atom 

Anto, I am sure the SU can drive much better/bigger speakers (as it should for that price), and it will also be somewhat wasted on the LS50s. At the moment the KEFs are all I really need in my listening space (4mx5m) However, I will need to make a decision once the Atom arrives. Do I match the Atom with the LS50s and leave it at that. As I know that if I spring for the SuperUniti now, I will be tempted to upgrade to some more appropriate speakers later, when my finances (and the missus) allow.

Crabby, I've also been debating the idea of going for the Star instead of the Atom. I'm not convinced that it would be a good investment however, especially when I could get the SU for a much better price, I also don't need a CD player.

IF atom can drive the focal, ls50 should not be a problem 

star was just a moment of weakness. Small is beautiful :-) 

The Sopra No1 probably aren't too difficult a load: 2 way with a minimum impedance of 3.9Ω isn't usually an indicator of a particularly load (but without the phase info I can't be entirely sure of this).  On the other hand they really will ruthlessly show up any inherent issues in the partnering electronics, they won't give the system anywhere to hide.  That combination of characteristics is probably why Naim used them to show just how good the fundamental performance of the new Uniti series actually is.

Hungryhalibut posted:

The Atom can drive Focal Sopra 1s to very high volumes, so the Iotas will be no problem. 

I can indeed vouch for that, although with the Atom not surprisingly you run out of top end resolution and space in the sound and it can sound  a little congested when pushed ... but hey it is only an Atom and I suspect typically won't be driving largish speakers. I suspect the Iotas with their sweet top end will sound superb with the Atom

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