New Uniti Core

Phil, if you're reading this, can you confirm that the Unitiserve/N-Serve playlist facility will not work on the Core? I ask because the alternative of using Naim app playlists is, in my experience, prone to corruption, and difficult or impossible to back up. A few other people have posted their problems on this issue recently, so I thought I'd raise it here.

ChrisSU posted:

Phil, if you're reading this, can you confirm that the Unitiserve/N-Serve playlist facility will not work on the Core? I ask because the alternative of using Naim app playlists is, in my experience, prone to corruption, and difficult or impossible to back up. A few other people have posted their problems on this issue recently, so I thought I'd raise it here.

Hi,

I'm not really sure what you're asking - the n-Serve app won't work with the Core so you won't be able to use the n-Serve app to create playlists on the Core. You'll create playlists on the Naim app and they'll be available across your streamers from the app...

Phil

Phil Harris posted:
ChrisSU posted:

Phil, if you're reading this, can you confirm that the Unitiserve/N-Serve playlist facility will not work on the Core? I ask because the alternative of using Naim app playlists is, in my experience, prone to corruption, and difficult or impossible to back up. A few other people have posted their problems on this issue recently, so I thought I'd raise it here.

Hi,

I'm not really sure what you're asking - the n-Serve app won't work with the Core so you won't be able to use the n-Serve app to create playlists on the Core. You'll create playlists on the Naim app and they'll be available across your streamers from the app...

Phil

What I was attempting say is that the 'old' N-Serve playlist system works well, and it's a shame that the Core loses it in favour of the Naim app system. I've always found it susceptible to corruption, playlists often vanish when the app is updated, and once lost, can't be restored from backup. A number of other people have posted about these problems recently, so maybe it's an area that needs a bit of tweaking?

 

Why is everyone so very nice to Naim ... Chris talked about "tweaking" ... sorry, if the playlist behaviour is as stated by other posters then it is broken and it's not tweaking that is required but correct implementation or remove the behaviour entirely.

Using servers and such to explicitly create/back-up playlists is not an acceptable option to me.

All in all, I am still very concerned about the Naim app software as it is crucial to the usability of the streamers/servers and, if not usable, then it is a deal breaker and I'll go elsewhere for streaming/serving.

Another example of what I have mentioned in other threads, that the entire digital area is still very immature. Seems like Naim have not quite got it that the hardware and software are equally as important in such an arena ... although they do seem to have recognised this with their bespoke Linux-based platform, they don't seem to have quite got it with the user experience.

I'm going off to play some vinyl now

Allan

ChrisSU posted:
What I was attempting say is that the 'old' N-Serve playlist system works well, and it's a shame that the Core loses it in favour of the Naim app system. I've always found it susceptible to corruption, playlists often vanish when the app is updated, and once lost, can't be restored from backup. A number of other people have posted about these problems recently, so maybe it's an area that needs a bit of tweaking?

Hi Chris, do the previous issues with the naim app, which you mention, also apply to the new version 5.0, please? (I thought this has been substantially revised, and of course it now includes operation of the Core). Thanks, Stefan

ChrisSU posted:
Phil Harris posted:
ChrisSU posted:

Phil, if you're reading this, can you confirm that the Unitiserve/N-Serve playlist facility will not work on the Core? I ask because the alternative of using Naim app playlists is, in my experience, prone to corruption, and difficult or impossible to back up. A few other people have posted their problems on this issue recently, so I thought I'd raise it here.

Hi,

I'm not really sure what you're asking - the n-Serve app won't work with the Core so you won't be able to use the n-Serve app to create playlists on the Core. You'll create playlists on the Naim app and they'll be available across your streamers from the app...

Phil

What I was attempting say is that the 'old' N-Serve playlist system works well, and it's a shame that the Core loses it in favour of the Naim app system. I've always found it susceptible to corruption, playlists often vanish when the app is updated, and once lost, can't be restored from backup. A number of other people have posted about these problems recently, so maybe it's an area that needs a bit of tweaking?

I also prefer playlists stored on the UServe for the reasons above plus IMO the best way to control the playlists is from Desk Top Client where you can  see tracks in any order you like and quickly edit the lists. I assume that DTC or equivalent won't be available with the Core.

Stefan Vogt posted:
ChrisSU posted:
What I was attempting say is that the 'old' N-Serve playlist system works well, and it's a shame that the Core loses it in favour of the Naim app system. I've always found it susceptible to corruption, playlists often vanish when the app is updated, and once lost, can't be restored from backup. A number of other people have posted about these problems recently, so maybe it's an area that needs a bit of tweaking?

Hi Chris, do the previous issues with the naim app, which you mention, also apply to the new version 5.0, please? (I thought this has been substantially revised, and of course it now includes operation of the Core). Thanks, Stefan

Hi Stefan, I have found some playlists becoming corrupted in 5.0, so yes, I think it's an issue that still needs fixing. Weather this is an issue for Core users remains to be seen, of course, and they will not have the option of using the reliable N-Serve alternative. 

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