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nimrodmr2p posted:

i would have sold the nait XS and took the uniti star but your choice is perhaps less expensive....

I did consider this but I cannot accept a slotted CD rather than a drawer or tray

a slotted cd is to rip them. The star will play then the ripped cds and the sound quality is better.  It is like a uniticore integrated in the athom:  a one box solution better than a nait xs with cd5i and you will be able to play your music with a tablet.....

I recommend you to see the star in youtube, it explains you how it works.

nimrodmr2p posted:

Today I have taken the plunge and ordered an ATOM rather than the ND5XS. I was persuaded by the more modern streaming platform and better screen. The plan is to keep the Nait XS and take the pre-out from the ATOM and feed it into the Nait XS to take advantage of the extra clout. I have been told I can still play my CD5XS through the NaitXS in the conventional way but that a better result will be had by taking the digital output from the CD5XS and feeding it into the ATOM to take advantage of its better DAC. I just hope I have understood this correctly. As regards ripping CDs to storage I will leave that until later since I have been told to avoid the CORE at present until difficulties are sorted out

Merry Xmas to everyone

Well done!  Please report back when you've had a chance to play around with it.  And it would be interesting to know if it sounds better using the Atom DAC rather than the inbuilt one.

Roger

I went from a Uniti 2 (latest spec) to a Uniti Star, and one of my major concerns was moving from Naim’s beautifully over engineered swing out transport mechanism to the “cheap and cheerful” slot loader. I needn’t have worried - the thing works like a dream, Sounds a lot better (in CD playback mode) and will (presumably) be a lot simpler/ cheaper to replace when it finally bites the dust. 

Having lived with a Core for the best part of 6 months I quite like the design. The slot isn’t flawed at all.  Not cheap at all, the whole case is rather up market in my view. Does the job too. Perhaps you’d prefer one of those plastic sliding drawer thingiesthat jams from time to time.

I like my Core, but it’s a cheap Teac mechanism, and the outside gets marked easily. This is not a reference mechanism as the Core has been described by Naim as a reference server. The days of the Philips VAM series are long gone, but others including Rega have CD handling that feels more robus for a few hundred pounds. Hope as an owner I am wrong.

Yep but on the other hand it’s just there to rip not play CDs real time. If I want to do that I use my Oppo 205. Outside of mine is totally unmarked unlike my car which is frequently used as target practice in supermarket car parks! Look at most of the drives in computers including Apple MACs - nothing to write home about but they do the job. As I recall the unit in the Serve isn’t much better and that ripped over 600 CDs for me before I sold it on.

I will take some comfort  that as its cheap as chips Naim will have stockpiled more than they ever did for their CD players. Nuff said, have a good Xmas Ravenswood, let’s hope they put a little more work into the firmware, and it it should shine as a product and not get kicked around on the forum, as it has to date.

nimrodmr2p posted:

I still have my old Philips 610 CD player with the classic sliding drawer, it still works after all those years. I love it

all ripping machines have a slot , even the most expensive one as antipodes dx reference ( 10k server/ ripper).  The slot is not to play cds but to rip them: when a cd is ripped, it is ejected and the cd is transformed as a 16/44 waw file, decoded by the integrated dac inside the star.(24/192 dac).

nimrodmr2p posted:

I feel the slot is a fundamentally flawed design, it is much easier to mark your discs with this method of loading. I have a second set of CDs for use in the car for this reason

I rip all of my cd's and for the car copy those that I want onto a little usb stick.  I have zero copy of cd's this way.

A second set of CDs for the car does seem an extravagance! (As well as bulky.) One great advantage of music stored as files, whether bought that way or ripped, is the ease of copying some or all, including to a small portable storage device, so I can see that a car player that can accept such a device would be most useful if you want to play music in the car.

Innocent Bystander posted:

A second set of CDs for the car does seem an extravagance! (As well as bulky.) One great advantage of music stored as files, whether bought that way or ripped, is the ease of copying some or all, including to a small portable storage device, so I can see that a car player that can accept such a device would be most useful if you want to play music in the car.

Pretty much every car sold new at least here in the States now accepts a usb input for music on a stick, and no separate device (phone) is needed.  (I just checked. The least expensive new Ford, the Fiesta ($14,100 base price) includes standard mp3 playback capabilities!)

Bart posted:
Innocent Bystander posted:

A second set of CDs for the car does seem an extravagance! (As well as bulky.) One great advantage of music stored as files, whether bought that way or ripped, is the ease of copying some or all, including to a small portable storage device, so I can see that a car player that can accept such a device would be most useful if you want to play music in the car.

Pretty much every car sold new at least here in the States now accepts a usb input for music on a stick, and no separate device (phone) is needed.  (I just checked. The least expensive new Ford, the Fiesta ($14,100 base price) includes standard mp3 playback capabilities!)

That’s as maybe, but I never have and never will buy a new car, and my present car should have several years life left in it though I’ve had it about 8 years... Although my approach to car purchase and ownership may not be mainstream, I doubt I’m the only one.

My car does not have USB

The second set of CDs is a limited selection purchased from car boots or charity shops so only a £1 each or less

I accept that a slot will be found on rippers but each disc only needs to go in  once so i would need to be careful, I hope I can manage that

One interesting thought is if I add the NAP100 to the Atom would the clout get close to that of the XS, I could sell my XS and buy a NAP100 and have money left over to put towards a ripper

I doubt you will be disappointed with the Atom 'clout'   I first heard one in Naim's HQ large listening room driving Focal Sopra-1's,  considering the size of the room & the volume I found it very surprising.   I don't think you need an extra power amp.  

You do not need a 'ripper' as you have a perfectly good tool for that with a PC/Mac with a DVD read/write drive,  all you then need is dBpoweramp software & a NAS to store the rips on & then in future the better SQ of 24-bit & DSD downloads & you will then have the Atom set up as its supposed to be. 

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