Ortofon Win(d)feld

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May 11, 2008 12:39 AM

Has anyone heard this cart in a Naim system? Especially how it compares (or indeed doesn't) to the SPU Royal N.

Looks promising from the Stereophile review this month but I wonder what the real story is. Also looks a bit like a refined Kontrapunkt B which could be appealing.

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May 11, 2008 12:58 AM

Mmm...$3,400. What turntable/arm are you using?

BTW, one thing I can tell you is that none of the Kontrapunkt line (of which the Windfeld appears to be one, painted black) sound anything like the SPU series.
 
 
 
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May 11, 2008 11:01 AM

Uh, actually, that's spelled Winfeld, in homage to the retired Ortofon designer Per Winfeld.

It's not simply a Kontrapunkt "painted black," it's some top-secret compound, according to the Stereophile review.

Frank Abela is our resident Ortofon expert, maybe he has heard one?
 
 
 
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May 11, 2008 11:45 AM

According to the Stereophile review, its spelt Windfeld.
 
 
 
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May 11, 2008 1:57 PM

According to Ortofon's website, it doesn't exist - under either name.


and elsewhere -

Manufacturer: Ortofon

Description: Ortofon Introduces MC Winfeld Cartridge
Ortofon MC Winfeld
Ortofon has launched the MC Winfeld, a newly developed moving coil cartridge using state-of-the-art technology. This highly advanced design, which is the world’s most hi-tech analogue cartridge, may be seen as a tribute to Ortofon’s departing engineer Per Winfeld, who has for more than 30 years been a feature of the high-end culture as the head of development behind amazing cartridges such as the Ortofon MC 20, Concorde, Rohmann, Jubilee, Kontrapunkt, etc....

Ortofon’s 75-year-old engineer Per Windfeld falls into the category of true hi-fi visionaries.
 
 
 
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May 11, 2008 2:31 PM

Guess that takes care of the accuracy of the review...interestingly, a full-page ad featuring Ortofons in the same issue also spells it Windfeld...as does Henley Designs, who may have been expected to know. Who is this guy?
 
 
 
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May 11, 2008 2:56 PM

I too am thinking of buying a Winfeld, I've already got a XV-1S incoming; but I like top-end Ortofon MC's due to their fresh open mastertape-like sound, and my Rohmann is at the end of it's life, due to high milage.

Anyway; I've got an Aro (with a heavy c/w ordered) and a SuperLine; can't wait to hear what others think of loading, c/w etc with the Winfeld.

(FTR; OT it's a Naim system, LP12/Aro/SL/552/300)

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May 11, 2008 9:35 PM

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Originally posted by abbydog:
According to the Stereophile review, its spelt Windfeld.


Fair enough, you're right. On the other hand, Mikey Fremer spells it "Winfeld" in a review of a Soundsmith cartridge in the April issue. As Adam's quote reveals, sometime you can find different spellings within the same press release, and Googling the man's name reveals both versions. Perhaps this is a common pattern in anglicized Swedish?
 
 
 
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May 11, 2008 9:44 PM

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Originally posted by aht:
quote:
Originally posted by abbydog:
According to the Stereophile review, its spelt Windfeld.


Fair enough, you're right. On the other hand, Mikey Fremer spells it "Winfeld" in a review of a Soundsmith cartridge in the April issue. As Adam's quote reveals, sometime you can find different spellings within the same press release, and Googling the man's name reveals both versions. Perhaps this is a common pattern in anglicized Swedish?


I think it may be danish not swedish. And not at all anglicized either.

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May 11, 2008 9:45 PM

On the contrary, I'm sure Winfeld is correct. What surprises me is the variation - good job they only put initials on the cart.

Still, at least they got R. Gudmandsen right on my SPU!
 
 
 
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May 12, 2008 10:37 AM

I like Ortofon cartridges.
I use a Rohmann and a 2M Black.
I have (too) many other carts. including different Audio Technicas and Linn offerings.
I would describe the Ortofon house sound as neutral. Others may excite you more, but the Ortofon is closer to the truth.
I believe the 2M Black to be the best moving magnet cart ever, and considerably better than many moving coils.
When my Rohman dies, I will probably buy a Winfield.
 
 
 
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May 12, 2008 2:49 PM

We have been comparing Winfeld to Kontrapunkt B (on which it is based) and XV-1S. System has been a Naimed LP12 into various incarnations of Superline/Supercap 282/552, passive 500/active 362'd 250s into DBLs - all good stuff. Yes, I did say DBLs, which only really got going when actively driven.

It's a good cartridge. Is it a great cartridge? Hmmm, difficult to say. There are some things it does very well indeed, but very often you just felt a bit cheated by it. Is it worth that much more than a 'B'? I don't think so, although I only heard it with the lower system, the 'B' had a cohesion and engaging factor which seemed to elude the Winfeld. That said, the Winfeld had gobs more resolution, a bit like the XV-1S without the fun.
 
 
 
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May 12, 2008 5:43 PM

Thanks all for the comments and spelling correction.

I am a big fan of Ortofon too, I installed a Beta for a friend and it just got better and better over time, very nice.
Abbydog - I am using LP12/ARO.
Rockingdoc - you are the opposite to me, since I got into the Koetsus I have stuck to one stereo cartridge at a time, but I think that may change with the Superline.
Frank - Setting aside XV-1S and DVs, what is your current all round LP12/ARO/Naim ref series favourite cartridge? Does anything actually exist that is up to CD-555 standard?

I can't help thinking that the Onyx cartridge is the main limitation now. The mid range distortion is revealed by the Superline. Reducing the loading reduces the mid range distortion but flattens and slows the music too much and maybe even distorts the bass.

Adam, can you rename this thread to at least Winfeld or Windfeld?
 
 
 
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May 12, 2008 5:59 PM

Does anything actually exist that is up to CD-555 standard?
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May 12, 2008 6:28 PM

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Setting aside XV-1S and DVs


Why on earth would you want to do that?
 
 
 
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May 13, 2008 5:04 AM

quote:
Why on earth would you want to do that?

Err - because otherwise I know what the answer will be Smile

Adam, thanks for adding prestige to my post Cool
 
 
 
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