Radio Paradise flac streaming

Ok, it works. But currently the volume (hard disc) load is very high (100%) even after finishing the music library scan. RP is playing in flac. Nice. Also qobuz did work. But because the poor little DS213+ NAS is at its limit, navigating was very slow. I hope the systems settles soon and I can experiment some further.

Quick howto:

  • Install the logitech media server LMS (on my NAS it is a beta version) package from the Synology package center on your NAS.
  • open the LMS web player page via the apps menu icon on your NAS's web GUI.
  • Create an account on the logitechmediaserver.com page (or whatever the name was) and log yourself in. (btw.: Why do you need this login? Is it possible to use the LMS without this?).
  • Follow the setup wizard to tell LMS the path to your music library if you want to play your music, too. Otherwise you probably can skip this page as I did with the playlist folder setup.
  • After finishing the setup wizard open the LMS settings and choose "plugins".
  • Install the upnp bridge package, the radio paradise package (and if you like the qobuz package)
  • after restarting the player you can choose the settings from these packages and configure them. On my NAS I had to choose the static-ppc-driver for the upnp bridge. The none static did crash as you can see in the logfile that can be found in the LMS settings in the "information" tab. 
  • After a while all upnp players in my network could be found in the player selection box on the LMS main page. I did choose my naim uniti and could play via "My Apps"->"Radio Paradise"

 

Greetings
Gert

A small update to my LMS experiments: After removing some plugins that I certainly do not need the system speed is quite fast again. Especially the plugin "UPnP/DLNA Media Interface" is said to be very CPU expensive. Playback of qobuz works really fine and gaplessly.

Currently I am just using the web UI from the LMS package. I have to check how to buy something in the apple app store to get ipeng.

gert posted:

A small update to my LMS experiments: After removing some plugins that I certainly do not need the system speed is quite fast again. Especially the plugin "UPnP/DLNA Media Interface" is said to be very CPU expensive. Playback of qobuz works really fine and gaplessly.

Currently I am just using the web UI from the LMS package. I have to check how to buy something in the apple app store to get ipeng.

Thank you for the tip to can the "UPnP/DLNA Media Interface" plugin. I use LMS because that's what I used before I got the NAC272 and I still have some legacy players. My 212j is happier for it. I was surprised to still see my NAC272 still offered as a player in LMS after turning that off, presumably the UPnP/DLNA bridge is doing the hard work.

I will try the Radio Paradise package to get flac streaming now. Nice tip!

ermine posted:
"UPnP/DLNA Media Interface" ... I was surprised to still see my NAC272 still offered as a player in LMS after turning that off, presumably the UPnP/DLNA bridge is doing the hard work.

I would describe the plugins as follows:

With the UPnP/DLNA Media Interface plugin your UPnP controll point (this can be an UPnP control app or the naim uniti itself when handled with the normal remote control) does see the LMS as UPnP server. So you can play music from it with the normal naim app. As you will have another UPnP server anyway installed on the NAS, you do not need this.

The UPnP bridge looks for UPnP streamers in your network and creates a logical squeezebox player (a proxy player) for each of them. LMS can see these proxy players and stream music to them. The proxy player forwards the data to your streamer. So yes, this plugin is doing the hard work.

Beajuju posted:

Hello Gert,

Can you tell me what are your settings for the plugin? I have a Synology Nas 213+ and a Naim Uniti Nova. Unfortunately, my Nova stops to stream from Qobuz after one song. Thank you!

I can check the settings these evening. But I just did use the default values. They did work fine. After I have found the offered default settings for a "naim uniti2", I switched to this default for my uniti, but I did not see what was the difference. It still did work.

If the Nova has problems with track advancing I recommend to turn off the gapless playback for a test. If playing multiple tracks works with this turned off, the Nova has an issue with the gapless mode. I have read in this forum about a gapless issue with Roon and a new uniti device. So maybe naim really has to fix something in their firmware?

I just had a bit of a go, and got as far as having everything mentioned above installed, but when trying to use the RP plugin within LMS, I get an error message saying I'm lacking Perl module IO::Socket::SSL.  From a quick google, it seems likely to require getting into command line kind of stuff to sort this out.

That's taken me to pretty much the limit of my current bothered quotient, so I've given up.

Fingers crossed a more official method is found soon.  I hold out a vague hope that, given that Naim and RP have clearly collaborated in the past (see Naim exlcusive 320kbps stream), they can do so again.

Hello Gert,

I followed your steps above for installing LMS on my Synology NAS.

Having installed the RParadise app, please can you confirm how I should use the LMS web app to select the RP flac stream? I assume it is by selecting the RP "App" that has been installed? If this is the case I seem to get a "Radio Paradsie lossless streaming requires the Perl module IO::Socket::SSL. Please use your operating system's package manager to install it." message - despite having Perl installed.

Any clarifications greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Yes, the "App"->"Radio Paradise" in LMS is the way I am using. I really wonder why you have this problem with the missing SSL package and why I do not. Maybe the RP URL that the app uses did change from http to https in the meantime? But AFAIR you cannot configure the RP-plugin, can you? I am not sure if I manage to look for it today, if I can find some hints in my logfiles or google. But I hope to find some time the next days.

I’ve been following this with interest so I went ahead and installed LMS on my Synology 212 Nas and got as far as the Plug-in stage.  I can see the UPnP/DNLA Media Interface and that installed I think, I can see the server on my Naim ND5XS, I cannot however see any mention of Radio Paradise or Qobus in the list of available Plug-ins

Sharney, you'll need to add the repository addresses for the RP app and the upnp bridge manually via the LMS plugin settings page. I'm not at my computer at the moment and off the top of my head I can't remember where I got them, but perhaps someone else (or Google) can.

I had nothing special to do to add repositories. I think the 3rd party plugins got available automatically because I did log into mysqueezebox.com. There is a tab "mysqueezebox.com" in the settings. You can log in there. Also there is a select box that is set here to "Enabled, keep player settings in sync". I do not know what this is good for.

I definitely have the IO::Socket::SSL package installed in my perl version. My system:
DS213+
DSM 6.1.4-15217
perl 5.24.0-0070
LSM 7.9.1-166

I did log into my NAS via ssh and checked the existence of the perl module:
perl -MIO::Socket::SSL
print $IO::Socket::SSL::VERSION, "\n";
2.037

(You have to press ctrl+d after the "print" line to execute the command.)

Maybe this is the case because I have activated https for my NAS web UI? (Network -> DSM settings) (Translated by me from the German UI)

I do not have any time more now. Maybe you can find something in the web with these keywords:
"enable mysqueezebox.com_3rd party plugins"

How strange.  I had to enter the repository URLs (now that I'm at the computer I can see it was Michael's Slim Stuff for the RP plugin and Philippe's LMS Plugins for the upnp bridge, both found after a bit of googling).  Until I did so, nothing about Radio Paradise or UPnP bridges appeared in the plugins list.  I'd also logged in via the mysqueezebox tab.

FWIW I just tried turning on automatic redirection to https in the Network>DSM settings page (and after it'd restarted, and Safari had had a heart attack), restarted LMS, and...  No difference.  The RP plugin still asks for the socket business.  So I turned https redirection back off again, to save Safari any further trauma.  And then gave up again.

The moral of the story seems to be that you might get lucky, but if you don't, be prepared for some IT guy stuff.

No joy with getting this working yet via my Synology NAS, however, I have managed to install latest Beta version of LMS on my mac mini, and added in the RP App + UPNP bridge plug-ins... and voila! I can select streamer via LMS web interface and stream RP in Flac. First impressions v.good 

Dave***t posted:

How strange.  I had to enter the repository URLs (now that I'm at the computer I can see it was Michael's Slim Stuff for the RP plugin and Philippe's LMS Plugins for the upnp bridge, both found after a bit of googling).  Until I did so, nothing about Radio Paradise or UPnP bridges appeared in the plugins list.  I'd also logged in via the mysqueezebox tab.

Perhaps the plugin versions from the developer‘s repository differ? You should try the official 3rd party plugin repository. The two plugins got included there after they became stable enough. Unfortunately I could not find the URL yesterday. 

Regarding the ssl perl module: maybe it depends on the CPU architecture if synology includes it or not? Or it depends on the country where you live? In former times th USA had some strange rules for strong encryption AFAIK.

I will recieve a new NAS soon and will install LSM again. I will report if it works on this.

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