Silver lining?

A quick Friday listen... yeah it's more settled, there is a controlled thump to the bass making the speakers appear even bigger, the voice echo lingers more, there's kind of like more drive - a waking up of the music maybe?

Its mad as I can see what people have been getting at!

I have some great bits of music I'm holding back on, maybe until tomorrow when I have the house to myself!

Consciousmess posted:

A quick Friday listen... yeah it's more settled, there is a controlled thump to the bass making the speakers appear even bigger, the voice echo lingers more, there's kind of like more drive - a waking up of the music maybe?

Its mad as I can see what people have been getting at!

I have some great bits of music I'm holding back on, maybe until tomorrow when I have the house to myself!

Your going to be in for a great weekend, enjoy 

Consciousmess posted:

Sad but perhaps fortunate dilemma due to recent Grandfather's will...

Presently I am delighted with what I have, wish I could upload a picture:

HDX with 1.5 Tb music  + nDAC + 555 PS

252 + SC2 DR

300 DR

Monitor Audio PL 200s

nVi + nSUB + nCENT + Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE

NACA5 + Powerlines

Nonetheless I am considering two options:

1) Changing the 252 SC2 DR for 552 DR

2) Changing the nDAC for NDS and getting a second PS 5555 (I want to keep my HDX as source).

So maybe the question in the context of my system is... will the sound improvement of 252 - 552 be higher than the NDS + 2 555 PS from nDAC + 1 555 PS?

I guess the NDS has other benefits too (streaming albeit with internet fallibility).

I'm purchasing used so cannot audition in my listening room.

Any pointers?

Cheers!

Just curious why you want to keep the HDX. I can only imagine that is like a ticking time bomb for your system. Do you have the external storage version?

Hi Kevin, I think there's a variable to consider for many hifi enthusiasts who aren't as well heeled as full 500 system and Statement owners. Or maybe it's just me, as alas I don't mix with kindred spirits - the forum is only my means to connect to fellow enthusiasts!

The variable is 'having ripped and downloaded ones own music on it; familiarity with unit; having had it serviced and upgraded; satisfaction with how it fits in' - a bit like a pet dog.

I guess I benefit from not being able to hear systems better than mine as I am oblivious as to what I'm missing out on!!

i've never heard music this good!!

Consciousmess posted:

A quick Friday listen... yeah it's more settled, there is a controlled thump to the bass making the speakers appear even bigger, the voice echo lingers more, there's kind of like more drive - a waking up of the music maybe?

Its mad as I can see what people have been getting at!

I have some great bits of music I'm holding back on, maybe until tomorrow when I have the house to myself!

Glad things are looking up, as your System is coming around.

Just looked at your profile, nice!

Let's see: Marque Separates

Amps: DR

500

300

Pre-Amps DR

552

252

282

PS

555 PS DR

SC

HC

Well, quite a journey, you have earned your Card. You have experienced an array of Naim's Marque Separates.

HDX>Ndac>555 PS......

Word of Caution:

Don't tune into, Chords Music in Da House!

LOL!

Enjoy What You Have!

It really is Personal!

Allante93!

PS. The Pecking Order is Intriguing!

Wow it is settling in! Jeese there's a new system in front of me that I didn't expect. The realism is magnified, voices are clearer - kind of like the guttural timbre of Bob Dylan is increased. Blind Willie McTell for example.

And then there's some outstanding 24 bit 196 kHz. I have a piece - can't stand jazz but this one piece is the highest fidelity I've heard and I recommend you listen on your system:

Rebecca Pidgeon Spanish Harlem

What a piece of equipment. I'm so glad I'm unable to hear any thing better because this sound trumps what I had - and I am confident it will continue!

Wow got to pot again. What a sound!!

i just can't believe it gets better than this. Gobsmacked. I was so impressed with my 252 setup, but that veil and depth - and speaker size! Man it's so real!!

In fact with my system I think it's optimised - although, yes although I have not got the nDAC and HDX Powelined. The power supplies are 552PS; 555PS; 300PS, but hot the nDAC and HDX. What a sound I must say!!!

is it worth giving them both a Powerline???

I would agree that a powerline on NDac and 555PS is definitely an improvement over the standard cables  - much more realism. In fact the only Naim kit I've not got a Powline to work on is my CDX2. I thought it tended to overblow the bass a little too much. I always reverted to the standard cable for its balance and musicality.

It’s amazing how I cannot imagine it sounding better, because within my modest circumstance I have optimised what I’ve got.  My ignorance from others’ systems makes me wonder what a £30k speaker does or even what a Statement does!! But I assume if one has a very large listening room and speaker size this is probably apparent.

My room is 5mx 6m rectangle and so I can’t have bigger speakers. So maybe the last bit of polish is from two more Powerlines for Xmas!

Consciousmess posted:

It’s amazing how I cannot imagine it sounding better, because within my modest circumstance I have optimised what I’ve got.  My ignorance from others’ systems makes me wonder what a £30k speaker does or even what a Statement does!! But I assume if one has a very large listening room and speaker size this is probably apparent.

My room is 5mx 6m rectangle and so I can’t have bigger speakers. So maybe the last bit of polish is from two more Powerlines for Xmas!

Sounds like a good idea to me....enjoy

Unbelievable! Not had a chance to listen for a couple of days and the depth of stage is way back beyond the wall - and my speakers are already 1m from the wall!! I’m gobsmacked how this illusion can be.

I may not be as poetic as others here describing the sound but with all limitations included (!) I’ve never heard sound better than this. Bottom line...

In ones own home, not in an alien dealer room, or even a recording studio, with the correct set up, one gets their dream sound!!

There is run-in on all Naim new products I've found - at whatever hierarchy level. The first three weeks gets rid of the main bumps and the first two-three months gets into its stride and you are essentially enjoying what it gives. But I've also found at the nine month point there is a big opening-up and I think 'wow' - WOW!
Everything becomes easy, bigger scale, better bass-definition and clearer HF and more revealing mid-band. I got this on DR 552, DR 500 and S1 Pre, so something about the electrolytic caps running-in possibly on common circuit design architecture in the power supplies and local decouplers - but that is just a guess.

So there is more to come and that is a nice treat ahead.
The 552 is an excellent Pre that benefits from a good install on Fraim with space around it, good cable-dressing and some care in the 552PS positioning, in that order, from my experience.

Enjoy.

DB.

Excellent, thanks DB - so glad I’m on that journey while revelling in the present scenery! It’s so great now, there’s no urge to speed the motor up.

I feel very fortunate and spent the money well. Any audio enthusiast should hear the 552 DR as I get the impression every source deserves it. The longing for the next step up has vanished!!

In a similar position to yourself, in recently acquiring a used 552 DR of 2015 vintage; from the excellent and very helpful Alastair & Andy at Signals. I had read extensively around the 552 and its potential contribution to any system, but have to say that I am revelling in its capabilities and excited by the prospect of playing the next piece of music through the system. For me it simply batons you down to intentions of the artist, through its vice like grip of the tune. This provides so much satisfaction and takes any guilt pangs away to the investment - it is simply money well spent. Hope it continues to open up so positively for you. 

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