Super Lumina trial

ryder. posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

It's easy to be cynical. If people don't want to buy these expensive cables, then don't. But why moan about their very existence?

Some folks like to moan because they want to invalidate the experiences of those who heard a significant difference with all these costly cables. Although these group of people may not have experience with the cables, they appear to want to impose the idea that these cables will not make an ounce of difference (or very small difference) and regard those who think otherwise as @#@&.

You can't prevent the moaning as everyone has their own beliefs or opinions and for the fact that some just like to moan.

Theses cables make all the difference.. So for me, in my modest system, "Cables first" .. I tried a £1980 interconnect with an old, tired DVD player... Outrages but still the best I've ever heard.

There are several people who have tried expensive cables and  not noticed any difference or only a minor difference or noticed a different presentation which they felt had as many downsides or upsides. I totally respect their opinion; it is as valid as mine which is the opposite - with my ears in my system I have heard improvements which equalled and sometimes exceeded black box upgrades. I have no doubt it is system and ear dependent, but in my case it was not a placebo, because my expectation and desire was that an expensive cable would make minimal difference, but it did.

What I can't be arsed with is people who have never listened assuming that it's just not possible that a cable can make such a difference. They add absolutely nothing to the discussion.

In my situation ... the main reason i sold the SL between 272/250dr ....  I was about to buy a nap300 - but managed to by a nap500 for not allot more (both are twin cable supply feeds).......... hence cable redundant + extra funds.  In the mean time I switched back to the witch hat cable and was surprised how good it was. I have noted - others have stated the super lumina cable between pre and power needs a considerable run in period............

Richieroo posted:

In my situation ... the main reason i sold the SL between 272/250dr ....  I was about to buy a nap300 - but managed to by a nap500 for not allot more (both are twin cable supply feeds).......... hence cable redundant + extra funds.  In the mean time I switched back to the witch hat cable and was surprised how good it was. I have noted - others have stated the super lumina cable between pre and power needs a considerable run in period............

Well, look what you started Richieroo, 245 replies and still counting! 

The SL Technologies, can touch a nerve, at the asking prices. However, me for one, I think these Posh Cables should only be considered, after one has decided on his/her end-game System!

The Final Link!

How it impacts one's System:

272/250

282/250

252/300

500 Series

Note: The SL Technologies were designed for the Statement, However, are equally at home with the Classic & 500 Series.

Allante93!

PS. The Advanced Technologies in the Cable Industries, have trickled down to entry level Cables, within leading Cable Manufacturers.

Todays entry level Cables, may compare to Reference Cables 10 years ago!

Hi-Line ~ 2006!

Richieroo posted:

In my situation ... the main reason i sold the SL between 272/250dr ....  I was about to buy a nap300 - but managed to by a nap500 for not allot more (both are twin cable supply feeds).......... hence cable redundant + extra funds.  In the mean time I switched back to the witch hat cable and was surprised how good it was. I have noted - others have stated the super lumina cable between pre and power needs a considerable run in period............

well it does sound good out of the box, but gets considerably better with usage.

 

Just added my 4m SL speaker cable that I been running in on the upstairs system from r two weeks. It replaces the 5m demo cable I have had for 2-3 months.

My dealer told me that Naim suggest the optimum length is 3.5m and therefore 4m should be better than 5m as well as being a good bit cheaper.

First impressions are that the sound is more exciting and much more to my liking. Difficult to draw final conclusions at the moment because the SL 2xDIN to XLR is still running in, so who knows where we will be in 6 months. Both Vinyl and CD sources have SL as well. 

Some have likened the improvement to a black box upgrade. I have only tried 250DR to 300DR, but I would say that the full SL loom gives you a quality of sound (stage) that I did not get from the Poweramp upgrade because the standard interconnects and speaker cable were getting in the way of what the boxes could do.

Phil

 

 

Filipe posted:

Just added my 4m SL speaker cable that I been running in on the upstairs system from r two weeks. It replaces the 5m demo cable I have had for 2-3 months.

My dealer told me that Naim suggest the optimum length is 3.5m and therefore 4m should be better than 5m as well as being a good bit cheaper.

First impressions are that the sound is more exciting and much more to my liking. Difficult to draw final conclusions at the moment because the SL 2xDIN to XLR is still running in, so who knows where we will be in 6 months. Both Vinyl and CD sources have SL as well. 

Some have likened the improvement to a black box upgrade. I have only tried 250DR to 300DR, but I would say that the full SL loom gives you a quality of sound (stage) that I did not get from the Poweramp upgrade because the standard interconnects and speaker cable were getting in the way of what the boxes could do.

Phil

 

 

If you are going to do it, do it right!

282/SCDR>300DR Full Loom!

Fraim or Fraimlite?

Nice System!

Enjoy your Music!

Allante93!

Allante9

 

282/SCDR>300DR Full Loom!

Fraim or Fraimlite?

Nice System!

Enjoy your Music!

Allante93!

Allente, I have two stacks of 'HiFi Racks' with legs of varying lengths. LP storage separates the 300DR amp from the 282 on the left. My dealer prefers simpler solutions than Fraim or LP12 for that matter.

As several have mentioned, the effort in getting the cable dressing, box positions, power cords, and power cord ordering in the bank of 5 double unswitched sockets makes you a believer in SL. 

Even TV sounds great through a 5m toslink to nDAC. There must be a pretty basic optical driver in our Panasonic TV, but you would not notice. It also unlikely the Sat box has even CD quality digital sound.

Phil

Filipe posted:
Allante9

 

282/SCDR>300DR Full Loom!

Fraim or Fraimlite?

Nice System!

Enjoy your Music!

Allante93!

Allente, I have two stacks of 'HiFi Racks' with legs of varying lengths. LP storage separates the 300DR amp from the 282 on the left. My dealer prefers simpler solutions than Fraim or LP12 for that matter....

Phil

Sometimes Simple is Better!

Allante, the two seater Cadillac, the last production  year, 1993.

Hence, Allante93!

 

Yeah your right there.... it makes a good heating system! Seriously though it is a fabulous system for even close up computer listening .... and when you turn it wow....the pmc's are well sized for the room and sound incredible. World of tanks has never sounded so good! Ultimately I plan to grab the room next door .... which is somewhat bigger...her indoors permitting.

Silly question but I'm curious. I've heard the benefits of the SL IC for myself in my system. I've read adding the SL IC up the 272 close to a 282. Is adding the SL IC to 272 like going from 202 to 282? In other words is the upgrade with SL IC on 272 in the same ballpark as upgrading from 202 to 282? I haven't heard 202 or 282 so I'm curious. No dealer near by and no desire to audition myself. Only curious. 

As the 272 is a source and pre combined it has no need for a SL IC. Some have said however that the addition of the SL DIN/XLR to the 272/power amp makes a worthwhile difference.

I get my SL DIN/XLR tomorrow which completes a full SL loom. Can't wait!

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