Supercap......

Chris Dolan posted:

The more sophisticated appreciate what the debonair 252 brings to the party imho  

No doubt. Whilst others might just question whether it is really worth going from a GBP9K preamp to a GBP11K preamp? Even I admit, I like the 252 and should have gone straight there in the first place. But I didn't and I won't bother now. Life is too short to muck about with the system so much when I could just listen to music and quietly wait for the day when the leap to a 552 is attainable.

Thank you guys.  

The plan has always been (notwithstanding Lotto) to consolidate around the Xerxes/CDS3/Nat 05/282/250/S20s.   In doing that I intended to have the HCs DR’d and the XPS2 but a demo has revealed that a SC DR on the 282 provides such an uplift - soundstage, resolution, bass definition, textures - that all 3 sources will benefit greatly. 

I’ll DR the HC for the Superline in due course and think about the XPS2. 

Regards,

Lindsay

THE STRAT (FENDER),

i follow with intrest this thread as this was my possible next upgrade.I have read previous that a hc on a 282 is all you need unless the addition on a sc is to allow the move to a higher up the ladder pre.

I have no intention to move away from the 282 and see it been with me for years to come.I can home dem so when the time is right I will give it a go.

One question,

if I may ask ,did you buy new or used as there is quite a saving to be had on used dr versions.?All of my other kit has been bought new so I have no experience with used kit.

Matty

The Strat (Fender) posted:

,,,,,, a demo has revealed that a SC DR on the 282 provides such an uplift - soundstage, resolution, bass definition, textures - that all 3 sources will benefit greatly. 

I agree - but please try the SCDR on the Superline (with the Burndy connection) even with a non-DR HC on the 282. Then plan for a second Supercap DR

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Marty,

i have bought used with great experience - CDS3//XPS/Nat 05/HCs but on this occasion gone new. 

On your other point yes a SC can be a stepping stone for a 252 but to my ears it’s a game changer on the 282. 

Regards,

Lindsay

Lindsay, I have a 282 + SCDR and have upgraded on loan the XPSDR to 555DR on the nDAC and wow. I have been thinking about the pre as well but I have to say this is enough for the digital music including CDs which play via the nDAC. It’s as if a lot of the background instruments were cloaked before and the cloak has been removed. You know they are there but the full contribution they make is not quite there. The notes now fully bloom as one member has put it, giving more body and warmth to the music. I don’t think the 555 is going back. I love my CDX2 as well.

Enjoy the SuperCapped 282 and know that it has a fine life ahead.

Phil

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Marty,

i have bought used with great experience - CDS3//XPS/Nat 05/HCs but on this occasion gone new. 

On your other point yes a SC can be a stepping stone for a 252 but to my ears it’s a game changer on the 282. 

Regards,

Lindsay

Thanks for the info

I had an 82/HiCap/250 a few years ago and changed to a SuperCap and thought it was one of the biggest improvements I had even made. It was a total game changer for me on the 82. I had previously had a 72/HiCap/250 and loved the sound for many years. When I first got the 82 there was something not quite right that I could not put my finger on. When I got the SuperCap it was all right again and better than ever. More recently I got a 282 and the SuperCap still sounds great. 

I know you will continue to enjoy your new SuperCap Lindsey as it settles into your system.

Regards,

Gary

wenger2015 posted:

Congratulations on your purchase, very interested to know the scale of difference compared to the HC?

keep us posted 

 

+1. I’m currently at this cross road, unfortunately no chance to demo down under, dealers don’t tend to stock them here in NZ.

Okay guys bearing in mind that it only came out the box yesterday and was left warming up overnight.

But this morning played on vinyl Jeff Beck at Ronnie's, on CD some of Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood at Madison, and whilst I've been working Radio 3.  Textures and nuances greatly enhanced but it's a lot more than subtle, the performance is just greater across the piece.  It's also richer but with more dynamics.

I'll write more after a few days.

Regards,

Lindsay

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Okay guys bearing in mind that it only came out the box yesterday and was left warming up overnight.

But this morning played on vinyl Jeff Beck at Ronnie's, on CD some of Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood at Madison, and whilst I've been working Radio 3.  Textures and nuances greatly enhanced but it's a lot more than subtle, the performance is just greater across the piece.  It's also richer but with more dynamics.

I'll write more after a few days.

Regards,

Lindsay

Keep me posted on how it evolves as have similar system to yours and really interested in where supercap takes things 

I myself have just traded in my SN2 for a 250DR, now expectantly awaiting delivery :0 

cdboy posted:

Boom. We have very similar systems and I suggest you take the plunge. You should get a healthy trade in for the HiCap DR. The SuperCap opens up your system and you will finally hear what HiFi is all about. It is game changing.

Thanks for the vote of confidence cdboy. A very fine system you have indeed. We’re you at 282 before 252 and experience the SC upgrade on the 282? It’s interesting reading on this forum,  those for and those against the upgrade, it leaves one a little confused. It’s been a great rubbit hole to be immersed in over the past month.

I did this upgrade last summer and was quite stunned at the improvement. Deeper and wider soundstage, more dynamics.. In fact, the kind of improvement I had, hitherto, “imagined” would require a leap from 250dr to 300dr (and I say that having never actually heard a 300).

No leap to 252 or 300 planed for me.  Next up - a new cartridge and (hopefully) a Keel sub-chassis for LP12.

Enjoy the new SCDR

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