Tablette 10

Proac Tablette 10

House move complete (excuse messy cables & wallpaper) the Tablette 10’s were set up yesterday evening. The room is not that small, about 5 x 3.5 x 3, but I did need something smaller than the S400 which looked huge in the room!

These little beauties are a marvel! So quick & musical with quite astonishing bass for their size. Close my eyes and I’m hard pushed to differentate from the Ovator in terms of scale and authority.

A very good piece of loudspeaker design.

G

 

Original Post

Graemeh,

They look stunning in the white! Congrats on the new purchase. Interesting observations as to their performance, especially as to the scale of the sound they can realise from their modest size. I'm going to have to try and listen to these little wonder boxes. I wonder, would a UnitiQute power them adequately? Perhaps the addition of a NAP would help.

I should mention the stands were recommended to my dealer by Proac and are the Custom Design FS103 Atabyte filled.

This afternoon is the longest extended listen and it’s clear that they are blossoming out - The manual says 1 week and then a few months thereafter to optimise them. Gorgeous sound already so I’m really looking forward to the next few months !

Interestingly the volume on the 250DR can go reassuringly higher than I could on the S400. I had Zep at the BBC on them yesterday with Bonzo hammering the cones on ‘Whole Lotta Love’ and they held it together presenting every hit in time.

G

Stevee_S posted:

Congratulations Graeme' I'm hearing nothing but good reviews about these Tablettes my curiosity is now piqued enough to give them a try.

Me too indeed, had the original Tablets more than 25 years back

Even my current room is a bit too large for them now

Dealbreaker for me so far has been the biwire terminals, but I can wait for the singlewire  Signature version to be released, if it will ?

Would be nice if someone close to Proac will follow up

 

Perol posted:
Stevee_S posted:

Congratulations Graeme' I'm hearing nothing but good reviews about these Tablettes my curiosity is now piqued enough to give them a try.

 

Dealbreaker for me so far has been the biwire terminals, but I can wait for the singlewire  Signature version to be released, if it will ?

 

Most of their speaker (if not all) are bi-wire. Easy to convert to single wire if it really bothers you. 

james n posted:
Perol posted:
Stevee_S posted:

Congratulations Graeme' I'm hearing nothing but good reviews about these Tablettes my curiosity is now piqued enough to give them a try.

 

Dealbreaker for me so far has been the biwire terminals, but I can wait for the singlewire  Signature version to be released, if it will ?

 

Most of their speaker (if not all) are bi-wire. Easy to convert to single wire if it really bothers you. 

How ?

Once I had some Leema speakers and tried to move the leads inside but not possible due to X-over was direct connected to biwire terminals

I tend to refuse using links and F cables could be my only option if cables inside Tablettes are not remove-able ?

Perol posted:

Graeme how close do you have them against the backwall ?

16cm from the solid masonry back wall, 230cm apart and 280cm to listening spot Perol.

Nothing scientific here...first pass at what looked right in the room.

Eric Bibb ‘Diamond Days’ sounds phenomenal!

G

Perol posted:
james n posted:
Perol posted:
Stevee_S posted:

Congratulations Graeme' I'm hearing nothing but good reviews about these Tablettes my curiosity is now piqued enough to give them a try.

 

Dealbreaker for me so far has been the biwire terminals, but I can wait for the singlewire  Signature version to be released, if it will ?

 

Most of their speaker (if not all) are bi-wire. Easy to convert to single wire if it really bothers you. 

How ?

Once I had some Leema speakers and tried to move the leads inside but not possible due to X-over was direct connected to biwire terminals

I tend to refuse using links and F cables could be my only option if cables inside Tablettes are not remove-able ?

Ask Proac nicely or just get inside and do it yourself. I find links untidy and prefer either a single wired connection in the first place or if that's not possible then i'll make it so 

If I wasn’t so pleased with my speakers I’d be trying some of these, as they look pretty well perfect. Small and most importantly, they sit against the wall. Who wants speakers that need a metre behind them? It’s also rather refreshing to see such enthusiasm for a £999 speaker. 

Halloween Man posted:

Atc have a recently released variants of scm19 and scm40 that are also sealed units and designed to attach directly to wall.  They are also available in white 

Shame they didn't just redesign the existing models to go closer to a rear wall. ATC speakers look good. I'm not too sure about the wall mount variants though.

Anyway back to the Tablettes 

Hungryhalibut posted:

If I wasn’t so pleased with my speakers I’d be trying some of these, as they look pretty well perfect. Small and most importantly, they sit against the wall. Who wants speakers that need a metre behind them? It’s also rather refreshing to see such enthusiasm for a £999 speaker. 

Well some of us have unusual properties(it's too boring to go into all the details) which means we cannot always put speakers  up against the wall. I'm afraid i'm one of those people who need speakers a metre out from the wall.  

Sister xx

Halloween Man posted:

Sorry, I should correct myself, looking at the ATC website the variants are 7, 11. and 40, interestingly no 19 variant.

For those with the Tablette 10, I'd be interested to know what is the bass response like? Do you get enough of bass guitar in the mix?

 

Bass from these speakers is awesome.  Very ATC-like.  Controlled and focused.  It clearly articulates some very deep notes.  I was listening to some old Kruder & Dorfmeister albums on the Tab 10s last week.  Many speakers, even floor standers, just fall apart due to the depth and complexity of some of those bass lines.  Not the Tab 10s.  It was most impressive.  

I also have a pair of ATC 7s so you may find this interesting.  Keep in mind the 7s are fully broken in and the Tab 10s are only a couple weeks old.  My sense so far is the 7s have better tweeters and the Tab 10s have better drivers.  Overall I like the ATCs a bit more because of their honesty.  The sound of the Tab 10s has a small dose of color/flavor but the bass is somewhat better.  The 7s are absolute magic when paired with an olive 250.  A 140 will do the trick too, but the 7s definitely give you more when you put a bigger amp on them.  On the other hand,  the Tab 10s can be driven well by a Nait2 (more to come on that topic in a separate thread soon).  They will of course give you more as you put bigger amps on them.  The cabinets are beautiful.  They also smell like fresh wood when you take them out of the box.  

I think on any given day I would be hard pressed to choose between either of these speakers.  

One other thing to point out about the Tab 10s - they are small and not very deep.  When you look at them you can't anticipate the sound that will come out.  

Agree with how some of you love the Proacs. I had a signature 50 tab which served me for more than 10 years until I sold it 5 years ago for the Harbeth P3ESR. Regreted it big time and now I am back into Proac in the form of the Response DT8. Lovely real wood veneer cabinet and a neutral tending to slightly sweet sound without any hint of harnesss. What more can I ask for ? :-)

ngarritson posted:
Halloween Man posted:

Sorry, I should correct myself, looking at the ATC website the variants are 7, 11. and 40, interestingly no 19 variant.

For those with the Tablette 10, I'd be interested to know what is the bass response like? Do you get enough of bass guitar in the mix?

 

Bass from these speakers is awesome.  Very ATC-like.  Controlled and focused.  It clearly articulates some very deep notes.  I was listening to some old Kruder & Dorfmeister albums on the Tab 10s last week.  Many speakers, even floor standers, just fall apart due to the depth and complexity of some of those bass lines.  Not the Tab 10s.  It was most impressive.  

I also have a pair of ATC 7s so you may find this interesting.  Keep in mind the 7s are fully broken in and the Tab 10s are only a couple weeks old.  My sense so far is the 7s have better tweeters and the Tab 10s have better drivers.  Overall I like the ATCs a bit more because of their honesty.  The sound of the Tab 10s has a small dose of color/flavor but the bass is somewhat better.  The 7s are absolute magic when paired with an olive 250.  A 140 will do the trick too, but the 7s definitely give you more when you put a bigger amp on them.  On the other hand,  the Tab 10s can be driven well by a Nait2 (more to come on that topic in a separate thread soon).  They will of course give you more as you put bigger amps on them.  The cabinets are beautiful.  They also smell like fresh wood when you take them out of the box.  

I think on any given day I would be hard pressed to choose between either of these speakers.  

One other thing to point out about the Tab 10s - they are small and not very deep.  When you look at them you can't anticipate the sound that will come out.  

Thanks, I enjoyed reading your write up and it gives a great sense of what the proacs can do.

engjoo posted:

Agree with how some of you love the Proacs. I had a signature 50 tab which served me for more than 10 years until I sold it 5 years ago for the Harbeth P3ESR. Regreted it big time and now I am back into Proac in the form of the Response DT8. Lovely real wood veneer cabinet and a neutral tending to slightly sweet sound without any hint of harnesss. What more can I ask for ? :-)

Tablette 50 SIgs were special little speakers in my book. I had a pair for a while but had to part with them to help fund the finish of my schooling. Mine were ebony, and I thought they looked and sounded great.

I should add a few more comments about the Tab10 to give a more complete picture of what these speakers are all about.  One of the things that really strikes me about them is how versatile they are.  The sound is detailed enough and the physical size is small enough to use them as studio monitors on your desk with a 100 or 140.  They also have enough punch to sound the part on the end of a 250 in a large room.  Chris Bell has noted excellent results even on the end of a 500.  

Regarding my earlier comparison to the ATC 7s, while the 7s almost seem to ask for more power, and they give you a lot more if you put a bigger amp on them, the Tab10s equally give more with a bigger amp but they do not seem to ask for more.  On the end of a Nait2 they are very well behaved and I never get the sense they are asking for more.  In that regard they are very civilized.  The extra performance is there but they're not constantly reminding you of it.

Another thing that strikes me about the Tab10s is just now natural they are.  I have tried a number of control and source combinations on them so far and never once have I heard a note and thought, "that's not quite right".  All the music with all the different gear at any volume has always sounded like it should.

I think they are one of the best looking speakers I have ever seen.  The fit and finish is outstanding.  The Tab10s are destined to become a classic. 

 

That’s the Tens had ten days running in with the radio left on during working hours and they continue to blossom. They sound larger, fuller and more open than you’d credit. Beautifully balanced top to bottom and just beguilingly communicative and musical.

I keep thinking I’ll trip them up with something - find a weakness somewhere, but nada.

Exquisite.

G

They do look just right - I always thought the Kans looked great and these (with grilles in place albeit they stand proud rather than flush) look very similar.

I think my other half would approve too as she thinks the Compasses' are just slightly too big 

TonyK posted:

Having a home demo of these next week on the Custom design stands fed by a Core/272/250DR. Can't wait. Dealer is also lending me a pair of small Russell Ks for comparison.

Tony,

When you have the speakers at home, It would be great if you could please share you observations as to how the Russell K Red 50/100 (?) compare against the Tablette 10's. I've listened to the Russell K speakers quite extensively and admire them. Should be a very interesting comparison and one I hope to do at some point!

Clive B posted:

They look just right, Graeme. Although I like my NBLs, I think this could be the way of the future. They look so good on those stands too, which don't look too massive. Enjoy!

Cheers folks. Yes Clive they are elegant on these stands. I can see & hear why they are recommended.

G

Update.  Proac suggest further improvements into the first month and I can report that 5 weeks in the Tablettes have opened out beautifully. They simply disappear whilst presenting a truly (cliche alert) ‘open window’ to the recording. Easily more transparent than the S400 with far greater insight into performances - Layered vocal harmonies for example are able to be read both as audibly individual voices and as a whole.

Instruments are precicely placed and front to back depth is cavernous (where such trickery is employed). Timbres sound accurate and don’t lose that through great dynamic swings or complex passages. They boogie like a b’stard too!

I can’t believe they are so relatively inexpensive -  the best ‘speaker I’ve owned under £5K.

G

I can only add my name to the list of proud Tablette 10 owners. These speakers draw me in to sit in quietude and at the same time inspires me to get up and dance. I was using the Proac D2's before, and I couldn't believe how the Tab 10's sound better in my space. At the end of my Supernait 2, it's absolutely sensational. Technically speaking, I find them to have amazing driver integration, which the D2's lacked, along with wider dispersion. I no longer have to sit and try not to move my head in order not to lose the sweet spot. The sound is best described as wholesome, and the speakers can be placed closer together with very little toe-in for maximum result. Also, I think the sealed box design gives them huge flexibility in terms of placement which I've found to be increasingly an important factor. I could no longer accommodate or stand the sight of big box speakers halfway into the room. My Tab 10's sit about 12cm from the back-wall on separate stands only because they were remnants of my D2's. I can't wait to place them on a beautiful console table along with some family pictures.

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