Tiger Paw Tranquillity

JRHardee posted:

Has anyone heard this? My former dealer, now far away, was enthusiastic enough that I took the plunge without an audition. It should show up in a couple of weeks. 

 

Like Chris, I too hope to hear the effect of this piece of kit some time soon. If you are planning to fit it yourself, have a read of the cautions about oil contamination on the Scottish forum.

I'll be getting one as soon as I can. I have a Khan top plate so it makes even more sense. Lots of coverage on a certain Scottish forum including positive commentary from a well known Leicestershire dealership. There's some talk of fine tuning the suspension post fitting but a comprehensive reply to my email from Tigerpaw earlier in the week suggested that any adjustment (if required at all) would be tiny. 

 

Installed on Friday.  Very simple to do this - 5 mins max. Additional weight has no noticeable impact on suspension.

For me, the nature of the improvement is very similar to that experienced with sub-chassis upgrade to Keel.  More information is coming out of the groove and enhancing almost all aspects of the musical performance.

Exceptionally cost effective upgrade!!

 

 

I just installed mine--I think I have one of the first 4 or 5 to make it to the States. The instructions would benefit greatly from a couple of photos. I got it right the first time, but I had to go to the Tiger Paw website to make sure I had done it correctly. Initial impression is that it removes a cloud of haze from the music--better in highs, lows and midrange. The A-B test is very easy to do--just remove the top magnet from inside the inner platter. It has a reasonably tight friction fit to the spindle housing; you really don't have to curl your fingers under to hold it in place while reinstalling the inner platter, despite what the instructions say. Is it one of those improvements you can hear from the next room over--too soon to say.

lowdean posted:

Installed on Friday.  Very simple to do this - 5 mins max. Additional weight has no noticeable impact on suspension.

For me, the nature of the improvement is very similar to that experienced with sub-chassis upgrade to Keel.  More information is coming out of the groove and enhancing almost all aspects of the musical performance.

Exceptionally cost effective upgrade!!

 

 

But would you say that the effects are as great as a keel and therefore supplant it without needing a keel or that they are as great in addition to the keel?

Installed mine this weekend and changed springs at the same time using my trusty Kradle. Superb is all I can say and for me right up there with the Keel and Tigerpaw top plate. Focus and depth are stunning - so much so that the NDS has been kicking its heels for the past day or so. Better ease back or I'll be needing a new Kandid at this rate. The only downside is that you can't see this wonderful piece of engineering once the deck is back together!

I bought a Tranquility last week

I  compared the Tranquility effect on two LP12s and in both cases it was not plug and play - and careful but minor adjustment was necessary.

The first LP12 used Lingo 3 Kore Khan Naim Prefix Roksan Nima sKale and DV20L and after adjustment to ensure entirely free running the improvement was immediate and very apparent.

The most striking aspects were lower "noise", clarity of detail and a wider, more precise performance. More musical and enjoyable. This was reinforced by removing the Tranquility which very obviously reversed the effect.

Moving on to my deck with a slightly higher specification there was effectively the same type of improvement but my LP12's suspension was sagging a little and therefore needed some adjustment to get the full benefit of the Tranquility.

I am very happy indeed with my purchase but I am very glad that Peter Swain fitted it for me 

David from Accent on Music came over today and installed the Tranquility in my LP12/Keel/Radical/Cirkus/Linto/Aro-Activa TT.  What a fabulous upgrade!  A new level of clarity and PRAT emerged.  Instead of listening to a Baritone singing Don Fernando in Beethoven's Fidelio , the color of the voice was now so clear it was easy to identify the singer as Fischer-Dieskau.  String quartet players now played better together, the flow of music they were producing became much more involving.  Instruments sounded larger.  Listen to Guiomar Novaes playing Debussy Preludes on Vox, the piano jumped out of the speakers--more dynamic, more color.  Her individual interpretation of the music much more apparent.  A clear winner at a fraction of the cost of a new black box.  Rest of system is Activ IBLs with 250s, SCs on  SNAXOand 52.

Ira

TPQ went onto my deck today. Holy cr&*!!! What an upgrade! If you have an LP12 you owe it to yourself to try this out. In my system/room etc it's nothing short of stunning. More of everything, detail, dymanic range, imaging, you name it. And all that without losing track of the music. It all makes even more sense, you really feel you understand what the musician was trying to achieve. I've got goosebumps here, feels like Sade is in the room with me. Fabulous.

I'm on my second LP12 in 20 years, service it myself and have fitted various upgrades including the Radikal motor and most recently the Tranquity. I would'nt attempt this without the right equipment including a Kradle. Some say that no suspension adjustment is necessary but I did mine as part of a spring swap so did this as part of a general service. One thing to note, the Cirkus bearing outer sleeve finish isn't consistent which can result in a very tight fit. Roger is able to accommodate this through the supply of an alternative sleeve of required. If you don't want the hassle and the deck needs a service I'd be tempted to let your dealer do it for you.

Ravenswood10 posted:

I'm on my second LP12 in 20 years, service it myself and have fitted various upgrades including the Radikal motor and most recently the Tranquity. I would'nt attempt this without the right equipment including a Kradle. Some say that no suspension adjustment is necessary but I did mine as part of a spring swap so did this as part of a general service. One thing to note, the Cirkus bearing outer sleeve finish isn't consistent which can result in a very tight fit. Roger is able to accommodate this through the supply of an alternative sleeve of required. If you don't want the hassle and the deck needs a service I'd be tempted to let your dealer do it for you.

Yes, I discovered this issue and it is with early Cirkus bearings and reported it to Roger who has indeed accommodated this in the latest production. IMHO have a dealer fit it as a self fit will be hit or miss (50/50) as to whether it will work correctly without affecting the suspension (causing it to knock for example) or have the two opposing magnetic surfaces touching without adjustment. The Tranquility weighs 175g BTW, so while you may wish to have a go DIY, be prepared for some adjustments or as I say, take it to an authorised dealer if you can. 

 

I hope this general advice does not break Forum rules on this occasion Richard.

 

KR

Peter

just looking at photos of your woodsong dressed LP12 Chris and it looks absolutely beautiful!! you could say its deserved...

of late there has  been a spate of 3rd party LP12 upgrades -- which is of course very good -- and is a testament to the longevity of this turntable -- but diehards like me tend to stay 'catholic' -- though the temptation can eventually get the better of one - who knows... such is this mad game...

enjoy...

ken

I'm going to buck the trend I'm afraid.  I tried one on my 2 year old Klimax LP12 for a couple of weeks and was not that impressed, all I heard was a slight improvement in bass handling, that's all.

Now, maybe what it does it does best on 'less youthful' bearings;  maybe I didn't have the two parts close enough together, maybe my ears are wearing out, I don't know... but this was not a £400 value for money change (I say change, not upgrade) for me.

But I'm pleased there are folk out there who are hearing great improvements.

Roger

Some findings from my own Tranquillity installation:

You need to follow the instructions and set the gap between the plates carefully (and before re-setting the suspension which I think will be required in most cases). This calibration is essential. It will likely work straight out of the box sans calibration but having tried this, things weren't 100% OK.

The locking ring (on the lower piece) was very tight initially and took a fair bit of effort to release. Once it released, mine freed up quite well and was easy to adjust.

Once you get it calibrated, with the suspension adjusted to accommodate, IMV it's very good - the improvements in clarity & overall detailing are impressive.

 

Second that. I'm using my LP12 a lot more since, the only downside is that my Kandid will need replacing sooner! The plastic collar which fits over the bearing housing can be a tight fit such are the tolerances. Roger at Tigerpaw was kind enough to send a replacement and all is fine. Obviously if you're not used to working your way around an LP12 and don't have the tools or know how best leave fitting to a dealer and do as part of a service.

I must be one of the lucky few as my suspension doesn't seem to be in any need of adjustment. Maybe because I only recently had a Booplinth fitted so it's all quite fresh anyway. I've done quite a few upgrades recently fairly close together but the Tranquility stands out as one of the most striking. On a par with putting Supercap DR on the Superline and at much lower cost. Still very impressed with this Tiger Paw upgrade.

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