Totem Staff Speakers?

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May 1, 2005 6:08 PM

Hi, Anybody using Totem Staff, or any Totem speakers?


These are new to me, but a lot of people seem to like them. Anybody here got any views?


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May 1, 2005 7:26 PM

I just heard the Hawks at the show and they were impressive. Very deep bass, but a nice, clear midrange. They also do not require a high-powered amp, so a Nait 5i would probably do the job. They were not showing the Staffs, but I would definitely listen to the Hawks if you can. One of the better choices out there.
 
 
 
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May 1, 2005 7:38 PM

Hi there ron, I home demmed a pair of cherry sttaff's when I was last looking for some speakers. In the store I was stunned by what they could do - excellent detail and tonality and, to be fair, frequency extension for the size of the tiny driver! When I got them home I couldn't wait to get them plugged in, fully expecting them to never be returned but, somehow, they just didn't do it for me. I found they imaged amazingly but they just weren't rocking - nine inch nails pretty hate machine sounded sublime yet, strangely, wrong.

It is difficult to put my finger on exactly what I didn't like about them but it certainly wasn't bass extension since I eventually settled on a pair of Linn Katans. Through the Katan elements of the music - layers of instruments and vocals - just seemed to gel together better, but not in a sense of being mashed together of course! The seperation is still there yet the musical coherence seems greater to my ears. They are also surprisingly good with rocky music with a good level of attack to them!

It could be that my equipment wasn't well suited or good enough as I was running a Musical Fidelity X-A2 at the time. I have now moved to a Nait 5i and have heard great things about Totem speakers with Naim amplification so perhaps I will go for another dem when I come to upgrade my speakers next.

Sorry I probably haven't helped you at all here! What sort of music do you listen to and what sort of sound are you looking for?

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May 1, 2005 10:21 PM

Best mate just purchased a pair of Dreamcatchers after an exhaustive 21/2 hour dem over Dynaudio 42's and some new Rega r series.

Being powered by a Nait3 they can do amazing things.
 
 
 
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May 2, 2005 3:11 AM

I eard long time ago Totem's Manit2 and Model One, they sound really great with electronics that are able to push them far. It's clearly High Quality material, and i don't see less than a NAP 140 to drive a Model 1 and less than a pair of NAP 135 to drive the Manit2 and give them the ride of their life.

A Staff is nothing less than a floorstanding Model One with a revised crossover for the larger internal air volume the Staff cabinet got. I see them maybe with a NAP 250 due to the accentued task of handling that the bass driver requires due to the slight loss of control the larger internal air volume is causing.

You got a Nait 3 or 5? I rather see you with a Model One, and being not too much on a party mood to turn the left knob high clockwise... Smile

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May 2, 2005 3:27 PM

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In the store I was stunned by what they could do - excellent detail and tonality and, to be fair, frequency extension for the size of the tiny driver! When I got them home I couldn't wait to get them plugged in, fully expecting them to never be returned but, somehow, they just didn't do it for me.


I had the identical experience! In my case, it was very a much a matter of hearing the speakers 'near field' in a small room at my dealer vs. putting them in my bass-sucking, 10-ft-high ceiling, plasterboard wall room where they just ran out of steam way too early.

Tried the Hawks, but no dice either. It came down to allaes and Totem Forrests and I decided to go Naim since I have Naim amps.

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May 2, 2005 3:52 PM

Agree that Totem Model One are just wonderful with nait 5. In my opinion they are the best Totem regarding sound quality and price together.
 
 
 
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May 2, 2005 5:04 PM

Agreed... model 1 is probably the best speaker
in their line..considering cost. I still
question why a purchaser would seek out a
Totem loudspeaker when there are many domestic
speakers available in UK which were designed
to partner gear that places a high priority on
PRAT? ...Naim...Rega...Epos...Royd...Neat...
to naim a few that come quickly to mind.

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May 2, 2005 5:11 PM

Totems are proudly built in Montreal, Canada.

That and the fact that they soung great must be a legacy of our mixed English and French heritage...
 
 
 
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May 2, 2005 5:30 PM

HI Not really seeking out the Totem, never heard of them until recently.

I may be looking to change from my Kef Reference Ones.
The speakers that seem to get mentioned a lot are PMC. Totem, Audiovector, Epos, Dyna Audio, Naim Ariva and Spendor.


My spend would be about £1500 or so.

Prefer floor mounted rather then stand mounts.

And I need speaker with a good bass.
Not that I'm that fond of base its just my room is very lightweight in bass department.

And most recordings can sound a bit thin.

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May 2, 2005 10:07 PM

I have Arros and love them, even they give out mind bogling bass. The Sttaf has a bit more of everything - including size. Totems have a personality, they are not neutral - but fast, furious and fun, depending on what you feed them.

Stoik - the Sttaf is not a floorstanding Model One, totally different elements. Try Dreamcatcher - Arro, Mite - Sttaf, Model One - Hawk...
 
 
 
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May 3, 2005 3:43 AM

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Originally posted by JBoulder:
Stoik - the Sttaf is not a floorstanding Model One, totally different elements. Try Dreamcatcher - Arro, Mite - Sttaf, Model One - Hawk...


You are absolutely right, my mistake and apologies. Red Face

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May 3, 2005 4:28 PM

If you want to stay british why not try Neat Petite f ex, or Elite SE if you want floorstanders. I use Petite IIIs myself to a nait3 which is quite satisfying. Their new Motive small floorstanders could also be worth considering when they are released.

But I really like Totem M 1. They are just excellent.
 
 
 
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May 3, 2005 5:04 PM

I have had Totem Sttafs for more than 10 years now, currently in my second system. I still find them wonderfully natural, musical, enjoyable to listen to. As an audiophile friend, used to much higher-end gear, once put it; 'They sort of sound like there is no speaker at all.' There are other lines with more hi-fi in one way or another, but few provide a better overall balance or more musical pleasure in the price range. You can certainly get bigger bass and greater dynamics, if your room needs them, by stepping up to the Hawk, Forest or Mani-2s.
 
 
 
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January 24, 2006 12:05 AM

I have owned a pair of Totem Acoustic 'Sttaf' towers for over two years now. This is a fairly significant accomplishment given they are the only pieces of audio gear I have kept since I got bitten by the 'bug' a few years back.

I have owned much better speakers including others from the Totem line, but no matter what I bring through these doors, the Sttaf reminds firmly in place. They play very nice in smaller spaces, and while very finacy with electronics and placement - the end reward is a very relaxing and enjoyable music experience. It's just the type of speaker thats good to come home to after a rough day.
 
 
 
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January 24, 2006 7:31 AM

Well I am just about to home-demo a pair of totem forests to see how they compare against my long term sbl's. The rest of my system is cdx2,282,h-cap,250, & my dealer has let me have them for a few days, so I'll post my thoughts soon.
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January 24, 2006 8:56 AM

Can somebody tell something about the "rainmaker" from totem?

This should be also a great speaker. But i never heared it with naim.
 
 
 
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January 24, 2006 12:35 PM

Hi Robbert,
I have a pair of Rainmaker, really great speakers.
They work better with Exposure amps, very amazing sound.
 
 
 
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January 24, 2006 4:03 PM

To add my two cents, I lived with a pair of Totem Arros for about 6 months. I thought they sounded good together with my 32.5/SNAPS/110. They're fast, detailed, and have terrific bass. But I ended up keeping the Rega Ela mk1s I own and selling the arros. For some reason, although I liked the arros a lot, the Elas just sounded a little bit more fun.
 
 
 
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January 24, 2006 4:25 PM

I've listened to Totem Sttafs with a CD5X, 112X, 150X system, and I was bowled over by the bass extension and control. Maybe the mid-range was not in the same class as my Focal Electra's, but if I were in the market for new speakers, I would certainly consider them.
 
 
 
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January 24, 2006 7:45 PM

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I eard long time ago Totem's Manit2 and Model One, they sound really great with electronics that are able to push them far. It's clearly High Quality material, and i don't see less than a NAP 140 to drive a Model 1 and less than a pair of NAP 135 to drive the Manit2 and give them the ride of their life.
Stoik..You are right. I have Mani 2's and a 300 is where they start to take off but to give them youre "ride of their life" with a 500 you get a dynamic room filling sound. Defenitely a monitor class standmount and not for the lower power kit unfortunately
 
 
 
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January 26, 2006 5:45 PM

Well I've taken the plunge.I have taken the plunge, & after having a 3 day home demo, I've finally found something I prefer to sbl's,(& can afford).The forests are great, But they did need their bases to be filled with sand to control the fruity bass bloom. Having done that,well, wow.I guess that they won't be everybodies cup of lapsong-suchong, so to speak, but for me, they sound great on the end of my cdx2/282/h-cap/250, +lp12/ekos/klyde.Still trying to get used to "no-spikes" though. A speaker, balancing on 3 ball bearings?Que??
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January 26, 2006 6:46 PM

Totem's like power.

I e-mailed Totem awhile back enquiring about suitability of Hawk or Forest with my gear in my room.

Room is 27 feet long, shaped like steps, 9.5 feet at one end, opening out to 12 feet, then finally a full width of 15 feet. Ceilings are 7.5 feet. Concrete slab, with carpet and padding. Walls are frame, 2x4 stuffed with insulation over poured concrete fronted with drywall.

Was told that with my 160, I should be looking at the Hawk. The forest likes more juice, a 250 may be a start. I know that quite a few hang the forest off of a SIM or Bryston of considerable wattage. ( Guess ya gotta keep it Canada, eh? )

I have added the hawk to my shortlist....

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January 27, 2006 10:38 PM

I've had my Sttafs for nearly 15 years. They now serve in my second system, but audiophile friends continue to be struck by how natural, musical and rich they sound. "Not even like speakers!" as one exclaimed. More than once, I've asked myself why I sought to upgrade from there...Granted, not the very last word in audiophile ingredients...but always pleasing. As others on this thread have noted, as you go up the Totem line from the Sttaf model, care should be taken to ensure sufficient power.
 
 
 
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