tonym posted:kuma posted:
Even CNN reported a semi-positive report today on Trump's Saudi Speech today.
....the tone of which was totally at odds with his election stance on the muslim faith. So will he now be backpeddling on all the other rehetoric he spouted to get himself elected? What's become of "The Wall"? I suppose we should be grateful that the reality of running a country is apparently beginning to alter his behaviour. Or perhaps I"m being too optimistic.
I do find it appalling that some of you seem prepared to accept that the Trump administration may prove to be corrupt.
Tonym, I think CNN and MSNBC would hire you on the spot as you seem to have the same high journalistic standards they look for. Truth and objectivism are no where to be found in your statement.
The problem is that you and others have a dislike for Trump and what he stands for and so you go to any length (including misrepresenting the truth) because you so want to believe anything that remotely confirms your views.
How about begin a pattern of searching for and understanding the truth? Your statement in bold above is so deceptive and misrepresentative of what Trump said but of course the choir singing here would not spot this as a deliberate attempt to simply smear a person unjustly.
Trump has never said what you imply here. In fact, he has said to the effect (my wording to paraphrase) that 100% of radical islamic terrorists are muslim. Out of a huge world populations of muslims a very small percentage of them have become radicalized. This is where the problem resides. He has said that this is a problem for everyone's safety (obviously) and we need to figure out how to determine which ones of this group intend harm to us against those (the majority) that are peaceful and decent people. This is a difficult task and finally though he is the first person in power to actually state the obvious. This problem has been allowed to be fester and grow under Obama and now someone is finally willing to stand up and do the right thing. Even a reasonable person like you should not be so blind as to not see this? Pretending it doesn't exist is not a solution.
The right thing is to actually force this point that it is actually all muslims around the world that need to stand up and be counted and to demonstrate which side they will stand on. Why? Because it is this group that are either part of this extended family and have firsthand knowledge as to what is being taught in the mosques and the communities. How many "good" muslims have awareness of who has been radicalized and say nothing to protect their own family or themselves from losing their own lives if they speak up?
Secondly, when any number of people from these countries apply to come in to your country how do you vet anyone when the country they come from is in civil chaos? You have no way to know that these people are who they say the are?
As demonstrated on this foreign trip, Trump has respect for any group, including the muslim faith and it has never been different (pre-election or now). Trump only stated a very logical and true position in that until we figure out how better to vet this problem shouldn't we slow down first and assess what we are doing in this process?
Yes, a perfect opening for the politically (unthinking) correct among us (including your blatantly crass and misguided summary) to jump up and down and cry foul. Hardly the case though. With the blind liberal governments of the EU, UK and even Canada and your open borders ideology you have and will continue to find out how many innocent people will die as a result. These victims and their families sadly do not have a voice in any of this as the majority pretend to point their finger at someone else.
Do you deny there are people on this earth who have a common ideology and goal of slicing your head off and killing your family for simply being a westerner (an infidel). What is your solution to protect us against this, King Tony? Maybe when your family is directly affected by this you might finally wake up? Do you not care about others that have been affected by this?
One thing is for sure. Trump is right in going to the muslim world and stating that the USA cannot solve this on their own and that they need the help and influence of ALL the good and decent muslims around the world to combat this problem. In my view he is seeing the problem for what it is. A far cry from how every other world leader has done so far.
Being a smart person yourself you should be able to see and understand this. Please do not just throw a blanket over this and imply that someone is against the muslim faith by stating that their is an obvious problem among a small percentage of the muslim world. There is no way to tackle this problem without asking the majority of muslims to take a stand on this leaving an open door for the liberals among us to resort to their identity politics.