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Is the Superlumina din to xlr the same length as the stock cable?The reason i ask,i have 4 levels of Fraim,which gives me 5 spaces for gear.On top is the 272,two spaces down is the 250 dr,and two spaces down from there is the xpsdr.In this configuration the Burndy hangs free,and does not touch anything,the din to xlr also hangs free,although it kind of grazes the back of the rack a bit.I just want to keep the same length  as the stock cable,if that is possible...if i end up getting the Superlumina.I guess the next question would be,am i better to get the din to xlr before Superlumina speaker cables,i use Naca5 right now,with the stock din to xlr?

As per HH's reply, 1m long. I don't know length of the stock cable. Given the difference the SL interconnect made, I would personally go for that before replacing what is, for many, perfectably acceptable (some say preferable to SL) speaker cable. If I had to choose, in my own system, I would keep my Epic Twin speaker cable and buy the SL interconnect rather than buy the Epic Reference I have chosen and keep the stock i/c. Hope that makes sense?!

Err..., I beg to differ. SL speaker cables knocks the socks off NACA5 IMO and that is from a NACA5 user for many, many years. You are right to point out that opinion here differs which means the only sensible advice is to carry out a home demo of the cables you are considering in your system, in your listening environment. Most, if not all Naim dealers will accommodate this with SL cables.

Timmo1341 posted:
No quarter posted:

Is the Superlumina din to xlr the same length as the stock cable?The reason i ask,i have 4 levels of Fraim,which gives me 5 spaces for gear.On top is the 272,two spaces down is the 250 dr,and two spaces down from there is the xpsdr.In this configuration the Burndy hangs free,and does not touch anything,the din to xlr also hangs free,although it kind of grazes the back of the rack a bit.I just want to keep the same length  as the stock cable,if that is possible...if i end up getting the Superlumina.I guess the next question would be,am i better to get the din to xlr before Superlumina speaker cables,i use Naca5 right now,with the stock din to xlr?

As per HH's reply, 1m long. I don't know length of the stock cable. Given the difference the SL interconnect made, I would personally go for that before replacing what is, for many, perfectably acceptable (some say preferable to SL) speaker cable. If I had to choose, in my own system, I would keep my Epic Twin speaker cable and buy the SL interconnect rather than buy the Epic Reference I have chosen and keep the stock i/c. Hope that makes sense?!

Sort of.... I'd be wary of mixing SL and Chord. The SL cables seem to build on each other, though I don't use the interconnect, just the din to XLR and speaker wires. 

Hungryhalibut posted:
Timmo1341 posted:
No quarter posted:

Is the Superlumina din to xlr the same length as the stock cable?The reason i ask,i have 4 levels of Fraim,which gives me 5 spaces for gear.On top is the 272,two spaces down is the 250 dr,and two spaces down from there is the xpsdr.In this configuration the Burndy hangs free,and does not touch anything,the din to xlr also hangs free,although it kind of grazes the back of the rack a bit.I just want to keep the same length  as the stock cable,if that is possible...if i end up getting the Superlumina.I guess the next question would be,am i better to get the din to xlr before Superlumina speaker cables,i use Naca5 right now,with the stock din to xlr?

As per HH's reply, 1m long. I don't know length of the stock cable. Given the difference the SL interconnect made, I would personally go for that before replacing what is, for many, perfectably acceptable (some say preferable to SL) speaker cable. If I had to choose, in my own system, I would keep my Epic Twin speaker cable and buy the SL interconnect rather than buy the Epic Reference I have chosen and keep the stock i/c. Hope that makes sense?!

Sort of.... I'd be wary of mixing SL and Chord. The SL cables seem to build on each other, though I don't use the interconnect, just the din to XLR and speaker wires. 

Indeed I have found that mixing Chord and SL cables did not work in my system. There is definitely a synergistic effect as you add more SL cables into a loom.

I would not mix two types of cables together,if anything it will be all Superlumina. If i recall,most people went with the speaker cables first,but that would be a much bigger cost i would think,i only need one din to xlr,and i would think that i would benefit most here,since i use the stock cable right now,a lot of these guys were coming from witch hat,or better cables.

As I use a separate source (NDS) and pre amp, I use a SL interconnect and have SL speaker cables (replacing NACA5) but retain my Witch Hat DIN/XLR as I can't justify further outlay at the moment on the SL DIN/XLR. As I only need 3m lengths of SL speaker cable, the cost was manageable. I do understand that this may be an issue in deciding which SL cable to go for if you need longer lengths of speaker cables.

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Actually 3 meter lengths would work for me,I use 7 meter Naca5,simply because I got a good deal on it.Does the recommended 5 to 7 meters length not matter as much with Superlumina,or is it just a cost thing?

No the minimum 3.5m and recommended 5m length only applies to NACA5. The SL speaker cable is supplied in a 3m length as a standard length which is what I use.

If 3m lengths of SL speaker cables would work for you than I would suggest to home demo both the SL speaker cables and the SL DIN/XLR and see what gives you a biggest bang for your buck.

If you do borrow SL cables for home demo make sure they are properly run in.

Good luck.

I'm truly confused! Surely a DIN to XLR lead is an 'interconnect'? 

As for not mixing leads and cables from seperate manufacturers, I beg to differ. The Superlumina DIN to XLR worked beautifully with Chord Epic Reference speaker cable in my lounge for my demo. When I replaced the Epic Reference with Superlumina the sound lost all its attack, and reminded me of a cup of silky smooth hot chocolate compared to a strong, powerful, edgy espresso. When the Epic Reference went back on and the SL interconnect was substituted by Chord Sarum Super ARAY, things took a turn for the worse - good, but not as good, to my ears which are all that matters when it comes to my system!

So, I'm sure that to others this quoted synergy between all things Naim surely exists, but I'll stick to my Naim and Chord mix.

Timmo1341 posted:

I'm truly confused! Surely a DIN to XLR lead is an 'interconnect'? 

As for not mixing leads and cables from seperate manufacturers, I beg to differ. The Superlumina DIN to XLR worked beautifully with Chord Epic Reference speaker cable in my lounge for my demo. When I replaced the Epic Reference with Superlumina the sound lost all its attack, and reminded me of a cup of silky smooth hot chocolate compared to a strong, powerful, edgy espresso. When the Epic Reference went back on and the SL interconnect was substituted by Chord Sarum Super ARAY, things took a turn for the worse - good, but not as good, to my ears which are all that matters when it comes to my system!

So, I'm sure that to others this quoted synergy between all things Naim surely exists, but I'll stick to my Naim and Chord mix.

A DIN/XLR lead is I suppose an interconnect, but the usual reference to an interconnect on here is the lead that connects a source to a preamp - obviously not needed with a 272. Sorry if I have confused you.

I found replacing my NACA5 with SL speaker cables brought more attack, making the NACA5 sound a little thick. I believed I described the SL speaker cables as incisive in comparison. I realise we are comparing different speaker cables to the SL, but I find your description of them baffling.

There a differing views on cables, particularly on here. Which is why I usually conclude my posts on such subjects with a strong recommendation for home demos as views on cables are often system and listener dependent. Reading my above posts it looks like I am true to form. Much better than pushing a blinkered view I feel.

 

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