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Re: Superline interconnect special version

Simon-in-Suffolk ·
Erik, I agree check with Naim, and your balanced speaker vendor. Usually going from unbalanced to balanced, you take the shield and connect to the -ve signal. However you leave the balanced chassis/ground open circuit, so it's worth checking your active speaker doesn't rely on a ground connection to the preamp. Simon
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Richard Dane ·
Also, worth noting that the Supercap is designed to drive short cable lengths. It may struggle with long leads so they may need to be slugged. What pre-amp will you be using with the Superline?
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Enik-yonik ·
I was thinking of feeding the Superline/Supercap into active monitors Geithain straight, without preamp. I have a relatively good experience with that already, using adaptors. So the idea was to dispense with adaptors in favor of a whole cable from the Supercap into the monitors. However, your comments made me think this over again. I will now compare straight connection with a preamped connection and see what difference does it make to the quality of sound. My previous comparisons, in...
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hungryhalibut ·
This sounds like the standard din to xlr lead that is supplied with the 250 power amp. If so, your dealer can get you one.
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Enik-yonik ·
Thanks a lot.
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james n ·
Check with Naim though as your a taking the unbalanced output from the Superline / Supercap into the balanced input of your active monitor. You'll probably need longer cables than the standard Naim length so you'll also need info on how well the Superline can drive the extra cable. James
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Enik-yonik ·
Thank you, James.
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Superline specs clarification

Enik-yonik ·
When stated that the Superline is suitable for a range of cartridges outputting up to 0.5 mV, do you mean at 5 cm/sec., 3.54 cm/sec., 5.7 cm/sec. or still another velocity? This is a very important consideration, when chosing a cartridge with proper...
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Superline to Nac252 din to din upgrade

Soundsgood ·
Hi  I am considering an upgrade of the interconnect cable between my Superline to 252 but before I try to arrange a demo of the usual suspects Hiline / Chord Signature or if allowed by the "boss" STA  can anybody make another other suggestions from their experience ?
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Superline interconnect special version

Enik-yonik ·
Just need an interconnect carrying the Superline signal from the Supercap into a balanced active monitor. In other words, need a NAIM cable terminating with XLR instead of RCA. Don't want to use adaptors. Could this be ordered at Naim or are there...
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Re: Superline to Nac252 din to din upgrade

loks ·
Hi Soundsgood, I don't think you can upgrade the black snaic between the superline and 252 as it also carries power to the superline. You could add any of those cables if you were using a power supply, but in saying that I've tried the HiLine between my superline and HiCap and found the normal cable to be better, it just seemed to lose some of that analogue magic and sounded unnatural to me ( I do use HiLine for my streamer though ). Cheers, Loks
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yeti42 ·
As above, it's a Snaic not an interconnect. An Orb platter kit for the gyro might worth considering and cheaper than a Hiline. What cartridge did you end up buying?
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Re: Superline to Nac252 din to din upgrade

Soundsgood ·
I bought a Micro Benz Gold , really impressed and currently revisiting albums I haven't played in years.. The orbe platter is something I keep considering but as I haven't experienced the improvements it makes yet I'm not missing it.. If you know what I mean ? In addition the other half likes the look of the counter weights on the standard platter .. so .....
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Re: Superline to Nac252 din to din upgrade

Mike1380 ·
You can comfortably rely on an emphatic upgrade by using a 4-5pin HiLine to run into your 252...... only thing is that to use it you'll also need a 2nd Supercap and a 17 pin snaxo burndy! Then your Superline draws power from the addit Supercap (I believe ALL 12 power rails) via burndy, sending signal back to the Supercap via the burndy, and out to the 252 via the HiLine. Is it bloody expensive to do this? Yes. Is it worth it? Well, I wouldn't arrange a demo unless you have the means to act...
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Soundsgood ·
Thanks Mike i have never heard the difference that a Z Airplug can make, but a quick search of the forum tells me I need to research..
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Re: Superline to Nac252 din to din upgrade

Mike1380 ·
Indeed... as I run an 82 I've always had to use an external PSU with my Superline. Back in the days of using a HiCap I invested in an original Airplug for my Lyra's 470R value. That was a BIG upgrade over the standard plug. Changing to the Z 470R was an even bigger step. Nothing else you do to your Superline will give you THAT much performance for the money. Ridiculously cost-effective upgrade... but I stand by my earlier word of caution about trying it with a dedicated Supercap!!!! Have fun! M
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Chris Dolan ·
I'm not convinced that the HiLine makes a better connection from a Superline to a preamp than the lavender - and VFM goes completely out of the window - but it's worth a try to see what you think.
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Soundsgood ·
I fully understand your warning on the Superline/ Supercap !!!! I assume the Z Airplugs are generally available through a good any good Dealer ? Do Naim supply?
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Mike1380 ·
Yep. It's a Naim product but I believe built to order (mine was a 2 week wait). Your dealer should be able to order one for you.
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MDS ·
I've heard the difference the Airplug Z made to Mike1380's system and it wasn't subtle. Had to believe something so seemingly small and inconsequential can make such a pleasing improvement. Very good VFM.
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Soundsgood ·
Sounds good to me.. Thank you everyone for your advise ...
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Steve J ·
As Mike said above having a SupercapDR on the Superline is the best upgrade you can make. Expensive but worth it if you have a decent record collection. The Z-Plug can bring a marked improvement. I have one of the original AV Options plugs. Naim now make them but AV Options also do a cryo-treated version which os supposed to be even better. These can be ordered from Peter at Cymbiosis if you're in the UK. Another, ultimately cheaper option, is to sell the Superline and buy a Linn Urika along...
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Soundsgood ·
Cymbiosis is not to far from me so will give them a call.. Thank you again
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The Strat (Fender) ·
Yep Peter supplied me with a plug for my Dynavector.
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Naim Superline/ Supercap Olive VS Rega IOS Reference

Khan ·
Hi Guys, I would like some advice as to which of these two phono stage options will be better. My system is Rega RP10, NAC82/Supercap Olive, NAP 300, Harbeth SHL5 Plus.
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Foot tapper ·
Hello Khan, A little while ago, I auditioned a Superline in my system with various combinations of power supply. There is a thread about this from circa a year ago. The Superline really came into its own when powered by a Supercap DR. When so powered, it was remarkable. When powered by my (serviced) olive supercap, or directly off my 52/olive supercap, it was somewhat less impressive. In part, this indicated how good the SC-DR really is. However, the SL +SC-DR are a much more expensive...
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Re: Naim Superline/ Supercap Olive VS Rega IOS Reference

rackkit ·
Guess if you're using Rega's own Apheta cart with the RP10, it should be the best match for your front end given that they're from the same company and developed with each in mind. Only one way to find out if a demo is possible. If not, i'd play it safe and go with the Rega Ref IOS. I'm using the previous IOS which sold for £1500 v the Ref £4000. I've seen internal pics that didn't show a great deal of difference in components but obviously the ref IOS has the much better casing and other...
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Re: Naim Superline/ Supercap Olive VS Rega IOS Reference

Khan ·
Hi, thanks for your replies. How much of a difference was there between the olive sc and the dr with the superline. Its interesting because I do not even mind the original iOS if I am getting most of the performance of the revised version for a fraction of the cost.
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Adam Zielinski ·
Can I throw a curve ball? Have you tried Rega's Aria? It' optimised for use with an Apheta. I use RP10/Apheta/Aria and LP12/Radikal/Urika and they are of course different but performance-wise match each other. Another benefit - a visual aspect. Rega Aria is housed in the same enclosure as RP10's power supply. That should also count for something
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Khan ·
I would have considered the Aria, especially considering the price difference. However, My aim is to get the best possible sound that I can just about afford so I think I should be able to stretch further than the aria. No disrespect as I haven't heard any. I'm going on price alone so forgive me.
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Adam Zielinski ·
Well - sounds like a demo coming up I have not heard the iOS so cannot advise on its performance. Once you have heard iOS vs Aria please let me know - would be most interested to hear your finding.
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Christopher_M ·
Have no Superline experience. I've heard RP8/ Apheta into Rega IOS Reference at my dealers. Sweet. A perfect demonstration of cartridge/ phonostage synergy, since the RP8 didn't sound nearly as good into other (admittedly far cheaper) stages such as DV P75 or Stageline S. Imo. Chris
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oscarskeeper ·
RP10/Apheta/Aria is a cracking combination and one which I felt was street ahead compared to running the RP10 into a prefix powered off a 552. There is real synergy and value in the Rega combination. I have also preferred the Rega combo to a LP12Ekos SE/Radikal/Urika, but would stress that this was preference ...others there felt differently, happily including the Linn's owner!
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joe9407 ·
Hi Khan, Is it correct that you want (or already have) an Apheta? If so, I'd concur that the Aria is the way to go. Then take what you would have spent on a Superline or an Ios and look at getting a 52 or 252. All best, Joe
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Khan ·
Yes, I have the Apheta 2 cartridge that came bundled with the RP10. So what I am gathering is the Rega synergy will most likely be the way to go. If anyone has done any comparison between the superline and other phono stages your input will be appreciated.
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yeti42 ·
I'd say the Naim synergy trumps the Rega synergy. Generalising somewhat: Naim source into Naim Naim source into Rega, wonderful. Rega source into Rega, likewise. Rega source into Naim doesn't quite hit the spot. All the above is mainly based on their digital sources, I've not heard and IOS into a Naim system, it's great ino an Osiris and my superline into my (recently replaced) 282's powered AUX2, into my powered 552's input and powered by a supercap were all very rewarding with big jumps in...
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Adam Zielinski ·
I would say it's a bit strange to make such a statement not having heard a Rega turntable via NAIM...
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Re: Naim Superline/ Supercap Olive VS Rega IOS Reference

yeti42 ·
I should get a demo if I were you.
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Adam Zielinski ·
I do have both Linn LP12 and Rega RP10 and I know what they are both capable of, with their own phonostages and with Naim's. Chose Rega and Linn for a reason.
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Khan ·
I have owned Rega amplifiers in the past so I am aware of the differences in sound between Rega and Naim. Both have their merits. Now as I have always used computer as a source I'm completely new to this analogue setup. So far the RP10/Apheta 2 has not even come close to my computer based system. I can only put that down to the basic phono stage that I have in the NAC 82. I am under the impression that even a Rega Aria will do very well but as I went all out on the turntable I hope to...
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Aric ·
Khan, Having done a quick 'net search, there doesn't really appear to be anyone who has published their comparisons between the Aria and iOS, using a Rega RP10/Apheta 2 combo. So i'd say once you've done the demo, relaying your impressions would be very helpful for the HiFi community! Regards Aric
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Re: Naim Superline/ Supercap Olive VS Rega IOS Reference

yeti42 ·
Adam, I wasn't talking to you.
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Khan ·
Adam, can you elaborate on what you meant by what both the Rega and Linn are capable of with their respective turntables
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Foot tapper ·
Hi Khan For what little my advice is worth, in your position I would just buy a Rega Aria to go with your RP10/Alpheta 2 and be very, very happy. It's a wonderful, music making combination. Really it is. And I say that after hearing exactly this combination on several occasions. By all means look at £2,500-£7,000 phono stages if you like. Arranging back-to-back demos is surprisingly difficult and then the differences can be swung for or against a particular stage on the precise loading...
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Khan ·
I completely understand what your saying 'Foot tapper'. It is proving to be difficult to arrange a demo for such high end phono stages. Also I guess the Aria will be designed to work well with tha Aria. Ill keep an eye out for an iOS just in hope but I think I might just start putting money together for an Aria then.
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Adam Zielinski ·
Let's put it this way - I am priveledged to be able to own two great turntables. I chose Linn for its amazing fluidity and how smooth it sounds (just don't mistake smooth for lack of rythym or beat - it has it in spades). It just sounds organic. Rega was chosen because it's different to Linn - it's fast, detailed and also very engaging. I decided that an own phonostage was the best synergy, so ended up with a Urika for Linn and Aria for RP10. Of course the ulitmate quesiton is - which...
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Khan ·
Thanks for that. Would you not agree that perhaps a similar priced phono such as the Rega iOS will perhaps produce similar results in terms of fluidity. I only say that as the urika is twice the price of the aria.
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Adam Zielinski ·
My whole LP 12 was at least twice the price of RP10. But.... One cannot simply look at the price. Performance, irrespective of the cost, is far more important. I would say that RP10 / Apheta / Aria is on par with my LP12. They just sound a little different. And that's what I wanted. Not better, not worse, just different. RP10 is a modern deck and it sounds it.
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Superline dead channel

asprin ·
Hi all, i've had a superline/hicap in my system for the last couple of months and really enjoyed it. This morning the left channel appears to have died after i powered down and changed tonearm cables and powered back up again. After swapping back and moving to the internal phono cards in the preamplifier its clear that it is indeed the Superline that is faulty. Has anyone experience of this issue? Any ideas how i might have damaged it? Any ideas who would br best placed to fix it and at what...
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Re: Superline dead channel

Mr Happy ·
There was a problem with sticking relays in the superline. You could try turning on and off a few times to see if it frees up, if indeed it is the relay.
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