Tagged With "4.6"

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SU just updated to 4.4/Powerline properly placed - SQ enhancement amazing!

taxbuster ·
As some of you will know, I finally got my Powerline "properly" installed with a surprisingly firm shove, into my SU. Yesterday I updated from 4.3 to 4.4 as I also updated to iOS 10 on my iPhone and wanted to upgrade the Naim app. I sat down to listen after doing so (and after noting a previous thread on SQ/4.4) and was stunned to find a significant improvement in sound - and that after having to restart the SU as part of the 4.4 upgrade. More open - better balance, sound stage, shape,...
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Re: SU just updated to 4.4/Powerline properly placed - SQ enhancement amazing!

hungryhalibut ·
Free upgrades are often the best upgrades....
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Re: What Has Happened To Tidal?

Pev ·
Same for me. Just like the firmware upgrade, some people seem to like the sound of Tidal and others experience it as much inferior to CD rips. I have tried switching from one to the other on the same track and can't tell the difference (on tracks I know to be the same master and bit rate of course). People who transcode to WAV from FLAC would need to take this into account as it might cause a variation if playing a Tidal FLAC versus a transcoded rip. I am also lucky enough to have Roon and...
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Firmware Version 4.4 Update

Karen ·
Did anyone experience problems after performing the Factory Reset upon completion of the update. The Factory Reset is required to update the firmware. How important is the firmware update? After the Factory Reset, what had to be set up again? I have done updates previously and those went fine. However, I have never done a firmware update or Factory Reset.
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

alan33 ·
Hi Karen - Glad things went smoothly, yay! The confusion is that the "streamer factory reset" is just to put the newly upgraded streamer code on a known start configuration. It is not a full device factory reset (ie renamed inputs, disabled inputs, radio presets are all preserved) as you might do from the handset remote. However, if anything goes slightly sideways during the update, even if it recovers and completes by itself (most common cause seems to be not establishing IP address to do...
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

Anto68 ·
I purchased my U.L. last december with serial number 395... assembled in 2015 I have the latest firmware suppose. So why in my mask i find 4.4.00 and in official web site Naim (Italian) on the update page the last firmware relased for my product is 3.22 relased on novembre 2013 ? Damn, maybe Naim England support should urge Naim Italy to refresh the page. I noticed that select other languages (except English) are all outdated firmware, not just Italians to be back
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

David Hendon ·
Anto68 4.4.00 is the latest version of the firmware and that is the one you should use. The web page is very out of date because there have been several 4.x firmware releases in the last year. best David
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

David Hendon ·
By the way, I have reported the issue to Naim. best David
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

Karen ·
Thanks for all of the hints and information. The update went fine. Towards the end of the update, the window said that the firmware download was in progress. Upon completion, the window said that a Factory Reset was in progress. Then "Successful". All of my iRadio presets were intact. I could find no changes in Settings. And I agree, the sound is better.
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

Mike-B ·
The only firmware that required a factory defaults reset was when the new BBC HLS iRadio streams were introduced, that was way back. Since then no resets have been required, not even when the streaming services were introduced. Like HH, I'm on the beta test team & done so many I've lost count, inc another yesterday. Download the firmware dropbox , hook up wires, unzip & press a few clicks, go make coffee - zimples Then 15 mins later, when its all put away, sit back & enjoy,...
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

fred40 ·
No...went smoothly. No problems.
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

hungryhalibut ·
You can update the software and not do the factory reset. If you do it you lose your presets and any changed settings. I've done lots of updates, being part of the beta group (over 20 by now) and have never bothered with a factory reset. The update will turn multiroom on, but you can just turn it off again if you don't need it.
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

ChrisSU ·
I've found that the factory reset sometimes happens automatically at the end of a firmware update, and sometimes it doesn't. It's a bit of a nuisance as you might lose your iRadio presets, and a few other settings you've changed to suit you, but nothing you can't restore easily enough. One issue I've had on occasion is the factory reset setting the volume to an extremely high level, and starting play automatically when the update finishes, even though I've hit the stop button before...
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

fred40 ·
Thinking about it. l lost my internet connection after the factory reset. No problem but you may have to write down your ip adres Just in case. what really struck me was the sound getting much better after the update.
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Re: Firmware Version 4.4 Update

Karen ·
Hi Alan, Thank you very much. Your reply is quite helpful and explains the meaning of "reset" in plain and simple terms. Karen
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ND5 XS Firmware Update

juanito ·
If I understand correctly, the last update was firmware-4.4.0 in Dec 2015. Is there going to be an update any time soon to improve the Tidal network latency problem - that's over a year now of Tidal stopping every +/- 5 tracks...
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Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

roland150 ·
Hello everyone, I would like to ask some questions regarding choosing a Naim for my pair of Dynaudio Contour S1.4. I've always liked the Naim sound and think that it will be a great combo. The problem is right now I can only afford the Nait 5si. My room is small and I listen at moderate volume. In fact all amps I've tried at home can pull off sufficient volume, but the real thing I'm after is the control. The 1.4s are rated 150wpc, 4 ohms, 85dB sensivity and they seriously produce A LOT of...
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Huge ·
The Dynaudio Contour 1.4s are a £2500 speaker that are notoriously difficult to drive (very low minimum impedance and low sensitivity). Dynaudio expect you to be using an amplifier in the £3000 - £6000 class to drive them. Expecting any £1000 class amp to do it well is unrealistic. However you haven't told us what your current amp is, so there no way we can even guess whether a 5si will be better or worse than it is. Buy a s/h Supernait as a minimum . Others on here with more knowledge than...
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Former Member ·
try the excite range, I tried X32 with a Nap 100 and was pleasantly surprised how good the NAP 100 could handle the Dynaudio...
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

cat345 ·
I do not think that Dynaudio expect amplifiers of a certain price range to drive any of their loudspeakers. The Contour 1.4s may perform better with a more powerful amplifier than the Nait5si but this is true for any loudspeakers whatever the price of the amplifier.
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Huge ·
OK, maybe they don't expect a specific given price. But when they designed that speaker they expected it to be used with an amp that can deliver a transient current of at least 12A in less than 200μs under all conditions, even when delivered into a highly reactive load with a minimum impedance of 2.5Ω - and you won't get that below about £3K. It's the same thing, just phrased in technical terms rather than fiscal terms, and most people understand the money better than the technical description.
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

cat345 ·
Huge, I understand your technical explanation particularly if you want to exploit the full possibilities of these loudspeakers but even though the amplifier is not totally up there, it will nonetheless expose the sound qualities of the loudspeakers. Of course, this is if the listening level is adequate and does not drive the amplifier into clipping.
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Huge ·
Cat, it's not about clipping. In some circumstances you'll need transient currents of 12A or maybe even more at about 10W average power. It's about the speed of current delivery when the voltage and current demand aren't in phase. These speakers are a very difficult load for all but the most capable amp. The OP was specifically concerned about not getting enough control, and that's exactly what will happen driving difficult speakers using amps that don't have enough transient current...
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

hungryhalibut ·
You just don't try to drive that sort of speaker with a budget amp. I'd expect to use something like a 250, with suitable preamp and, of course, source. Getting expensive, challenging speakers means that you have to spend serious money to feed them. That's why it's best to build the system from the source, ending up with speakers appropriate to both it and the amplifier.
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

cat345 ·
Again, a very good technical explanation. Correct me if I'm wrong but a high transient current would only provide the greatest benefit to bass frequencies without much influence on the rest of the spectrum?
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Former Member ·
why not ask Steve Hopkins @ Naim audio about this?
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Huge ·
Hi Cat, Transient current capability and speed influences the whole of the audio spectrum, but to different degrees dependant on the design of the speaker (and possibly on the perception of the listener). Upper and mid bass do seem to be an area where it's often more noticeable, but it can affect any part of the audio spectrum.
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Former Member ·
Hi Huge, nice technical explanation, but where did you get the figures about the Dynaudio Contour current requirement from? Are you by any chance a speaker designer or a Dynaudio employee? What about the 009 transistors 90 AMP transient capability. What is the 250 DR transient capability then?
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

Huge ·
Hi AM, in the past I've designed poweramps! It's a mix of "rule of thumb" and calculation. The info on the 009 was published somewhere but I can't remember where, I think it was an article to do with the Statement. I don't know the specific time / current / voltage profile of the 250, sorry. I can't even remember in detail what the 3D map was for the last amp I designed, just that it was >15A/μs and the output structure could achieve >90V/μs (but overall slew rate was reduced by...
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

sprintgtvgus ·
I say don't be put off too much by the nay sayers. I did have contour 1.4S, and they do indeed produce a lot of bass. I don't think they're as difficult to drive as made out though. When I had mine I used a Bel canto S300i and latterly an Avi Labs V2 Power amp ( 150 and 220W respectively) This was deliberate as I was aware that they like power, but I just don't subscribe to the "you can't use x with y" thinking a lot of people have. Whilst my 250 is in for DR upgrade I am using a 10 year old...
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

roland150 ·
Hello all, Thank you for your responses. I do believe that the 1.4s deserve expensive, high class amplification however I just can not justify that right away. I'm watching the s/h market, hoping something interesting to come up. I chose the Contours for their sound, because I am not satisfied with the sound of the lower series. Then I realized I was in a difficult situation. The SN was also recommended by a Naim dealer. Saving for this one would take a lot of time though.
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Re: Nait 5si and Dynaudio Contour S1.4

roland150 ·
Hi all, Just want to drop by and update the situation, as someone may also consider a setup similar to mine. After some demo at home I pulled the trigger and kept the Naim 5si. I would need more time to draw a conclusion of this setup, but until now it works to some extent. In particular the combo works fine until the volume level reaches 10 hrs position, after that things get a bit (very, very mildly) shouty but still fine for me.
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iTunes 12.4 and BitPerfect

davidsee ·
It looks like the new release of iTunes (12.4) has temporarily "broken" BitPerfect - songs play for a few seconds and then repeat. I've had to disable BitPerfect to play anything, so no automatic bits and sample rates for now. No doubt it's all BitPerfect's fault of course, not Apple's - naturally ��. Maybe it really is time to look for an alternative to iTune$...
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Re: iTunes 12.4 and BitPerfect

spurrier sucks ·
I had some issues with bit perfect in the past after an iTunes update or a bit perfect update. The issues were always resolved with future updates but it was a PIA. Once I got my Uniti 2 and stopped using iTunes/bit perfect it's been all good.
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iOS App version 5.7.4

Yetizone ·
Just a quick ref - iOS App version 5.7.4 is now available on the App store. I've just downloaded to both iPad Mini2 and iPhone 5S. All stable so far, plus, I may be imagining it, but I'm pretty sure its faster than before?
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Kacper ·
I will check it out tomorrow when I'm back from short holidays in Poland. I hope it works even faster!
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

nitrous ·
Be prepared to lose your existing rooms and have to faff around to find them again! That's all I'm saying although I am getting good at this app update malarkey.
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Mike-B ·
I believe it is faster. Its also a smaller package (less MB) so that might be related.
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Yetizone ·
Ah, I thought it was faster! As I updated both devices at the same time I couldn’t compare the two versions. A welcome improvement in speed, especially as I’m using near legacy (by Apple’s standards) iPhone 5S and iPad Mini2 as app control devices. I would expect 5.7.4 to be really snappy on an up to date iPhone or iPad Pro. All stable so far with regard to finding rooms etc. Fingers crossed this remains so.
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

antony d ·
download it yesterday works well, and also through test flight
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Mr Frog ·
Unfortunately it crashes when selecting "Check for updates" (Mu-So "Settings") ..... otherwise, all seems okay
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Mike-B ·
The Check for Updates feature is for new platform products only. Naim are aware of the legacy products issue but as yet no info on what they will do with it
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Yetizone ·
Just checked. Likewise, crashes on both iPad & iPhone when choosing "Check for Updates". App was in use extensively yesterday and other than this outlined by MR Frog, all fine for regular playback. Edit: Mike, that makes sense of the issue with the Qute / Muso glitch. I'm sure it will be resolved soon.
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Mr Frog ·
Thanks Mike ... it previously used to give the actual firmware version of the Mu-So and even installed updates .... so seems a little strange to simply now crash the app entirely
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Mike-B ·
Thats software for you Mr Frog, with my NDX it just had a spinning wheel stall, not great but at least it kept the app alive. I expect new stuff will be on the way soon.
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

Claus-Thoegersen ·
How can you lose a room. A room is a connected streamer, and if the last streamer (room) is not in use no more, when you open the app, it will search for all rooms that is all streamers on the network. If the last room (streamer is still akctive the app should open bup to where you left when you closed it or put the phone to sleep. Claus
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Re: iOS App version 5.7.4

nitrous ·
Claus, when I updated to 5.7.4 from 5.7.3 I had to manually enter the 'room' which is my 272 as the app update did not appear to remember it had just moments before been connected to the 272. otherwise everything else seems ok with this version.
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4.6 update and change in gain

jsaudio ·
I have noticed that I have to turn the gain up a little more to achieve the same volume on my 272 after the firmware update. Used to average 35-40 on the gain and now its more like 40-45 to get average 85db. Anyone else? Is there a setting I could have altered? I use Asset/Q-NAP. Rest of system is listed. Thanks
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Re: 4.6 update and change in gain

Finkfan ·
Same here. You can adjust the gain for individual inputs on the naim app.
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Re: 4.6 update and change in gain

hungryhalibut ·
Yes, I’m using a higher volume setting as well. I thought it was just my imagination, and I’m pleased to read that it’s not.
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