Tagged With "Flac"

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Unable to play FLAC files on NDX

EnataiDan ·
Recently acquired and NDX and looking for guidance on why it's not playing FLAC files.   Here's my setup: NDX running 3.22 firmware Music currently resides on Win8 pc (sharing files through HomeGroup settings) (will be migrating library...
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WAV or FLAC Lossless? And tags etc etc....

-goat- ·
Hi all. I think I remember some talk on here a while back about dbPoweramp now supporting lossless FLAC. FLAC is always lossless though is it not? My understanding is as follows: FLAC is lossless. It's a compression which is reversed when the FLAC...
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Wave or Flac: Metadata questions

Arnaud ·
I've been ripping quite a lot of CDs now with dBPoweramp, and I found that there were no differences between ripping to FLAC or to WAV in the metadata dBPoweramp found/extracted from the CDs: - does it mean there are no more differences now between the two formats? Or does that only apply to CD rips, and not to downloaded files? - or is this problem more critical with Classical Music (I mostly rip rock CDs)? - and by the way, on new CDs, I often get poor results on metadata provided by...
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Winter Sales and Free downlods; Naim, Sound Liaison, Linn and HD Tracks.

Peet ·
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Klout10 ·
Wonderful story Richard! Enjoy your system! Regards, Michel
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

MangoMonkey ·
To the Op: +1 to what you found - I suspect there is something wrong with the cabling at my place too. Having said that, I also recently noticed that the upnp server you use makes a difference too. I'm getting better sound now, that ever - I've hooked up my PC running the upnp software to a switch which is connected to my streamer. All of this via Cat6 cable. The switch is connected through the wall (with cat 5) to a Nas which stores the files. This sounds just right! In comparison, the...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Kevin Richardson ·
Originally Posted by MangoMonkey: To the Op: +1 to what you found - I suspect there is something wrong with the cabling at my place too. Having said that, I also recently noticed that the upnp server you use makes a difference too. I'm getting better sound now, that ever - I've hooked up my PC running the upnp software to a switch which is connected to my streamer. All of this via Cat6 cable. The switch is connected through the wall (with cat 5) to a Nas which stores the files. This sounds...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Matteo ·
Thanks for your post my experience is, so far, the opposite ... having cat5, I m completely satisfied of the SQ of my ND5, both iradio and streamer I turn on the acute cd in very rare occasions ... M.
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Kevin Richardson ·
You may well know I am not an expert. However, I have 3 Mac Airport Extremes in my home and have no problem streaming wirelessly even at 192/24. I run a cat 7 from both streamers to the appropriate AEx [conveniently located within 7 feet] I think thats a cost effective solution vs. running cat 6 cable throughout. YOu might try jRiver as it converts all your files to wav on the fly. Maybe it will sound even better than Asset. [I am pretty paranoid so I run Asset, Minim and JRiver]
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

NotMyNaim ·
Thanks everyone, lots of good advice. For now, at last, I'm very happy with the sound I'm getting. I didn't think it was possible for the HB2s to sound this good and I'm delighted not to have been laughed at for putting 200 quid's worth of 30 year old speakers on the end of £3.5k of SU! I'm skeptical about the necessity of audiophile Cat5 cable, my guess is that the Cat5 in my wall is either damaged or not Cat5. The Cat5 that I'm using now, instead of the stuff in the wall, is nothing...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Harry ·
I ran Spendor S5e off 552/300 and they were not embarrassed at all. They never sounded better and this arrangement served well for in excess of a year. As it turned out, some posher alternatives costing several multiples more didn't work so well in the room. When it comes to speakers and rooms all bets are off until you hear them in situ. You are right to be sceptical about "audiophile" Ethernet cable. That your cabling could be faulty is the obvious and logical first conclusion. However, if...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Aleg ·
Richard if using long stretches of cat cable I would recommend a shielded type. As many experiments/tests have shown, bits are not just bits, it is all about noise, outside interference and timing issues. Better quality cables do pay off. cheers Aleg
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Jan-Erik Nordoen ·
Originally Posted by NotMyNaim: I spoke to the supplying dealer who was convinced the problem was with my ancient Heybrooks. And there lies the crux of the problem. Surely, the dealer's responsibility is to ensure that the system sounds correct. Admittedly, this was easier before streaming... Jan
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Jan-Erik Nordoen ·
Originally Posted by NotMyNaim: Finally I tried short circuiting the Cat5 cable that was buried in the wall of the living room and connected the SU directly to the NAS . Surely you mean through a switch ?
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

NotMyNaim ·
Yes, sorry, not quite directly, it was through a switch.
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Harry ·
Originally Posted by NotMyNaim: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable. half a lifetime of being very happy with my trusty Rega Planar 3, A&R A60 and Heybrook HB2s, That takes me back. I started with this source and amp and I really wish I hadn't sold the A60 for buttons. It could still serve me well today. Isn't hindsight wonderful? Still got the RP3 though. I don't use it but I can't bear to part with it. So many happy memories. I haven't been bitterly disappointed but I...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

NotMyNaim ·
Thanks Harry and you're right, the HB2s sound great. I'm considering B&W PM1s to replace them (I've got an option to buy a lightly used pair for half price), but right now the HB2s sound so good I'm in no hurry. I've still got the A60 and RP3 - haven't used the Rega for years, but like you, can't part with it - it's just such a nice thing. I've used the A60 recently and it has a lovely tone and some serious punch for a 40x40w, but against the SU it sounds congested and confused, so I...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Sloop John B ·
great post Richard, thanks for taking the time. does rather open a can of worms (or open it wider). Have you connected a laptop to the offending CAT5 and is there any indication of a faulty connection? Did internet radio work under the old scenario? Speakers, for what it's worth, have to suit 3 things, your amp, your room and your ears. You simply have to hear them is situ in your room. Historically it would have been noted that Naim amps may be a bit underpowered for B&W speakers. (I...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

NotMyNaim ·
Hi SJB, I haven't actually tried connecting a laptop to the offending Cat5, but the internet radio was working - although it didn't sound great either. To be honest, I haven't tried the radio with the new set up. I agree with the caution about speakers. I have auditioned an SU with various speakers twice now (but both times at a dealer demo room, not at home) and both times I preferred the PM1s to anything else I heard (Spendor A5, B&W CM8s, Linn Majik 140s). I did take my HB2s with me...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

MDS ·
Nice post, Richard, and glad you've sorted out the problem. I'm also pleased to learn that someone is still listening to and enjoying a pair of HB2s. Many years ago I used to run a pair from a A&R A60, a great match (still in my loft somewhere). What stands do you use for the HB2s? I started with Linn Kan stands and later moved to Partingdon Dreadnoughts which seemed to give them more oomph. The stands were heavy beasts, though. MDS
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

NotMyNaim ·
Hi MDS, I'm ashamed to admit that my speakers are currently sitting up on a shelf away from the pointy and inquisitive fingers of my three year old twins. I do have contemporary, sand filled, Target stands for them, but they're a bit of a hazard in their own right with their deadly spikes - so they've been banished to the garage. If I get the PM1s, with grills on, they might be allowed to sit on their own stands. Richard.
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

hungryhalibut ·
What an interesting and valuable tale. The whole subject of Ethernet cables seems very controversial, with some saying they make no difference whatsoever, and others spending large sums on bespoke Hifi versions. You have certainly found out that they do have an impact, though as it's buried in the wall you won't know if it's faulty or just poor quality. I would advise you not to get speakers without trying them. I'd also advise, having had bouncing boys, to get floorstanders rather than...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Jan-Erik Nordoen ·
Richard, You could also have the Heybrooks restored and rejuvenated by a speaker specialist. Areas for improvement generally include tweeters (newer technologies / components improve definition and smoothness), crossover components (idem), internal wiring and speaker terminals. I've done this for 30-y old Mordaunt & Short Pageant 2s and Pageant 3s and the result is well worth the relatively small outlay, compared to new speakers. Then spend a few hours hand rubbing, drying and wiping...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

MDS ·
Originally Posted by NotMyNaim: Hi MDS, I'm ashamed to admit that my speakers are currently sitting up on a shelf away from the pointy and inquisitive fingers of my three year old twins. I do have contemporary, sand filled, Target stands for them, but they're a bit of a hazard in their own right with their deadly spikes - so they've been banished to the garage. If I get the PM1s, with grills on, they might be allowed to sit on their own stands. Richard. Ah, yes. I remember the hazards of...
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Manu ·
An unknown network wiring should be professionally tested before been used. It cost less than, at worst repairing a damaged unit, or troubleshooting a slow or unreliable network.
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Re: A Cautionary tale of a SuperUniti and a Cat5 cable

Mr Underhill ·
HB2s, great speakers - I wouldn't be in a hurry to replace them! M
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Re: HDX file types FLAC and m4a

hungryhalibut ·
I think you need to put them in the HDXs downloads folder, using your computer. It certainly can't rip them.
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

Roman Kozyrev ·
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

Damon ·
Hi Roman, I haven't tried Asset, as I'm still using Snow Leopard on my iMac; you are also on a Mac, I think, as you are using a Asset in beta form? I have Playback and also eLyric. Playback was really quite good; I liked the earlier versions better, and still use it instead of the last few updates. It seems faster than eLyric as things load up on my iPhone. Some others have had a similar issues with double titles; I can't remember which thread it was, but somebody did get it resolved, I...
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

Gummibando ·
While yazsoft has closed shop Playback keeps working and there is no reason while that should change unless Apple changes major programming APIs. Also there's a hint on the website that Playback may come back in the future. Playback is still a fantastic product with perfect Mac integration. It happily serves every supported media type in my home (from a Mac mini). So my - pragmatic - recommendation: keep Playback. I had the same issue with FLAC files. My solution was to batch-convert them...
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

badlyread ·
And could you tell the difference between 96 and 192kHz other than in your wallet? All of my files are ALAC on my Mac Mini and I have been using Playback you a number of years with no problems. However, I am currently trialling Asset transcoding the files to WAV on the fly and I like what I am hearing. Wonder what the purchase price will be? And when will it be available? Only 26 days of trial left! Regards Neil
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

Roman Kozyrev ·
OK, so far having both upnp servers running in parallel seems like workable solution. Igot good comfort with Asset for my hires FLAC collection and for everything out of iTunes library, while still using Playback for all music in iTunes.
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

ChrisH ·
Got it - thanks HH! Theres 2 options in DTC / Tools / Settings & Functions / System Settings / Naim UPnP Server:- Transcode Media Types & Transcode I originally changed Flac from False to True in Transcode Media Types and ended up with 44.1kHz downsampled files. I should have changed Transcoding in Miscellaneous Settings to Decode to keep the sample size but decode to WAV. Ive now changed my original setting back and adjusted the correct setting, which works a treat. Ill have to give...
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

hungryhalibut ·
Hurrah - yes, it's 'decode', not transcode. If you set decode, you don't need to alter the setting true/false against any of the specific file types.
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

Roman Kozyrev ·
OK! Game over for Playback! I just upgraded my system with one click! I still can't believe it's possible!!! My SU + Totem Hawks start to deliver as never before during the whole one and a half year I own them!!! What did I do : switch to decode on the fly from FLAC to WAV in Asset's settings. What a difference in sound! It start to be fuller, smoother, more soundstage! Before that I also was very happy with what I got from my SU, but now I know that i was unaware about it's full...
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

hungryhalibut ·
Yes, I do this with my UnitiServe and it sounds much better. There's apparently less for the streamer to do with the files if it receives them in WAV.
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

ChrisH ·
Apologies to the OP for taking this slightly off thread. When I transcode a 24/96 file from my NAS via my US from FLAC to WAV on the fly, I think it sounds different (maybe its in my head!), seems better, as is alluded to above. But on the SU it shows 44.1kHz in Stream Info. im thinking CD quality.....? Do you know if it has down sampled the file, or is it still at 24/96 resolution, just now in WAV? (HH, I was thinking you may know the answer to this question :0).
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Re: Asset upnp for OSX (beta) vs Playback

hungryhalibut ·
It has down sampled it. You need to select the right option in the DTC. From memory it's 'transcode' rather than 'transcode to WAV'. The former keeps the native resolution. I thought I'd play the Antonio Forcione & Sabina Sciubba 192k version of Meet me in London - you see 192k in nStream.
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Re: Unable to play FLAC files on NDX

garyi ·
FLAC = free, therefore neither apple or MS support it. This is the route of your issues. If you set up a UPNP server from the nas there should be no issue.
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Re: Unable to play FLAC files on NDX

hafler3o ·
Not sure whether this is related in any way to your problem EnataiDan but last week my SuperUniti stopped playing or recognizing flacs. The vast majority of my collection is WAV with a few wma and mp3 rarities. All those would still play but I got the "source err" message (I only stream). Powering off the unit cured it's bizarre behaviour. So far so good...
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Re: Unable to play FLAC files on NDX

Bart ·
Dan I'm 99% sure it's a server issue. Have you tried the DLNA server built into Win8? That is separate from HomeGroup, but maybe it's what you're doing. I've not tried it myself and have no idea if it's willing to serve flac files or not. Moving to a nas is the right way to go. You'll use a different server on the nas, and have a totally different set of issues with it, but playing flac should not be an issue.
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Re: Unable to play FLAC files on NDX

Simon-in-Suffolk ·
Dan, I agree with Bert, the NDX is happy with FLAC but the supporting server has got to recognise the FLAC files for it to play them. From how you describe it your UPnP/DLNA server is not finding your FLAC files, which is why NStream its not showing them and therefore why the NDX can't play them. On your other point, for the most part Apple devices don't recognise FLAC, so again it appears the Apple device is not sending the FLAC file to NDX. Use a UPnP/DLNA player like Asset/Minimserver etc...
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Re: Unable to play FLAC files on NDX

EnataiDan ·
Thanks all for the advice. Have set up the NAS and able to successfully play 192kHz/24bit FLAC files. All I can say is WOW!
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Re: RIpping CDs into NAS using iTunes : metadata support

Borders Nick ·
Philippe Ive been through much same process as you but without a NAS. I keep the iTunes library on a PC with a back up on a WD My Passport running all the time. Yes - I eventually also resorted to the same manual process as you to get artwork to show up on the Naim App. There is an thread somewhere on this forum that points to a "Doug Script" that can do the work for you if you have a Mac rather than PC (I couldn't find anything similar for PC) I run Minimserver on the PC and now transcode...
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Re: RIpping CDs into NAS using iTunes : metadata support

feeling_zen ·
Not only in the formats but also in the same format depending on ripping software. Technically, WAV, FLAC, and ALAC should resolve to the same data. Assuming bits are bits, the difference heard is the noise generated by unpacking at the Uniti end. I definitely hear this on the NDX and Naim have confirmed their units are optimised for WAV. As a solution, many choose to use another piece of software to read the iTunes library and transcode to WAV so that whatever the file format, the Naim gets...
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Re: Tidal Premium Service

Anto68 ·
Nudgerwilliams, good news man , your advice was correct. I changed the default setting from my Ipad and now Tidal premiun version works. I'm listening the Beatles from my Unitilite version AAC 44.1kHz 323kb/s, not bad Thank you
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Re: Winter Sales and Free downlods; Naim, Sound Liaison, Linn and HD Tracks.

Mr Underhill ·
HDTT sale, 15% off until 3/1/2016: http://www.highdeftapetransfers.com/ M
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Re: Winter Sales and Free downlods; Naim, Sound Liaison, Linn and HD Tracks.

migo ·
HD Tracks sell 2L files
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Re: Tidal Premium Service

ChrisSU ·
I'm pretty sure it's correct that you need to use the HiFi version with a Naim streamer. You could confirm this by signing up to the 3 month free trial, which should then work. If you have an Airport Express on your network you could connect this to your streamer with an optical lead and stream Tidal Premium from an iPhone or iPad.
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Re: Tidal Premium Service

nudgerwilliams ·
The other thing to check is the Quality setting in the app. If the Tidal integration will work at lower quality levels, then I would guess the setting will need to match the quality level in your subscription. It defaults to HiFi I believe. In the app go to Settings - Input Settings - Tidal - Quality. David
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