Copying downloaded album to HDX Server Store???

tjs quick reply. hmmm thats a bummer........ suppose i could return the NAs store to a share and play over the network but using mains network at the moment which fine for backup and lookup but not for playback.

The HDX instructions tell you not to do what you have done, but I admire your exploratory spirit!

I assume the HD files are in WAV format and contained within a folder having the name of the album which in turn is contained within a folder having the artist name, which is how the HDX organises its data.  The trick then would be to rebuild the HDX's index which you may be able to do using the 'Rebuild DB' function in the System Functions menu of the destop client.  If you do this and it works, let us all know.  If you do this and it screws up your entire ripped collection, pretend you never read this post and/or ignore future postings from me.

Ive been wondering about this myself -- "trick" my uServe by adding extra music, in properly named folders, into it's backup and then restoring from that "modified" backup.

One could duplicate the backup and leave one backup pristine so that if it failed one needn't re-rip to restore the original, I presume.

I think the danger would be that a 'homeless' Cd file without a corresponding datbase/meta file entry would be interpreted by the database as a corruption.  Shall take a modest malt or two and ponder further.

Mr Tull,

You did refresh the store having put the files therein?

M

refreshed several times with great vigour. Unf HDX unimpressed. In fairness as rj points out its something the instructions tell us were not supposed to be trying. Just seems a tad short sighted when naim label trying to flog us these super high quality offerings which the HDX can play but you cant get the database to upload the file.......

I think I am missing something here, but if you have downloaded the music file to your NAS why do you want to transfer it to your HDX hard drive why not leave it as a share on your NAS?.

Gerry

Whoops,

Gerry is right.

I RIP to a remote Music Store using the NS01. For other files I place the files on a Network Share, which when re-scanned shows the new files.

Naim don't allow us to move our own files into a Music Store, whether on the HDX HDDs or remote file storage.

M

The 'something' you are missing is that  to-old-to  doesn't want to play music from his NAS because it's connected using a 'network-over-the-mains' thingy, so playing any music from it is putting data into the mains supply with whatever effect that's going to have on his audio system.

An understandable sentiment, although I've never heard the effecty of one of these mains network systems in reality.  What I've done though is bring the NAS closer to the HDX (within a cable's length), but that begs questions about how noisy the NAS drive is and 'where do I put my router?'.  

Answers on a postcard, please... 

Music stores are proprietary.  Nothing to stop anyone from potentially fouling them up if so desired., I suppose. At your own risk.

A potential answer is to use an external USB HDD to hold the extra files - but, apparently, it can't just be any HDD.

M

Another possibility is a wireless bridge set up. I use a pair of Netgear WNDHE11 units to my son's room and this is pretty faultless. The wireless element is gigabit.

Gerry 

Was my idea of 'editing' the backup and trying to restore from it a useless mental folly? Or is there a technical reason why it would/would not work?

once again my thanls thanks for all replies.

the reservations i have with remote hard disks is the need to effectively backup the backup.......with everything stored on the HDX (until i fill it  up) i have a single backup to my nas which is a 4 tb wd bookworld set up for a 2tb raid and so i have some fault tolerence in case of a single disk failure. If I start using the NAs as a store then my inbuilt paranoia for all things hard disk based would mean i would be plugging in a usb hdisk to backup the nas store.... so where does it stop.

ref the wirelss suggestion from gerry i have problems getting a solid wireless connection from laptops to hdx.. When i first installed the hdx i was running a bt business router, after much heartache and an on site visit from the splendid rob at rayleigh hi fi and conference calls to naim it seems the bt business router is not upnp compliant. i switched to a draytech hub and the wirelss connection from laptops is now reasonably stable but when streaming music from the laptops i still get the odd dropout.

ref database rebuild confess to being a but spineless with regard to tackling same. if there were a different database for each strore it would not be much of a risk. however as everything on one database i feel rebbuilding a perfectly sound database is asking for trouble. again my pc paranoia tells me 'if it aint broke.....'

i have raised the issue with naim /naim label as it should be fairly simple to write a script treating downloaded album data in the same way as data ripped from disk which would no doubt enhance naims download sales and pay for the r and d time.

from my side i fear the solution is to generously offer to re-docorate the lounge (HUGE BROWNIE POINTS AWARDED BY THE CHIEF FAIRY) and to take the oppotrunity to run cat 5 from hall where NAS and router sit and have a fully wired network.

Here is another hypothetical.  This weekend I loaded onto my uServe hdd store some AIFF files I had on a cd rom.  The uServe took them just fine.  Why not just go this route for "adding" digital files to the hdd store?

Of course as a practical matter I am not willing to burn dozens of disks to do this, so a NAS is more attractive.

And although I really WANT to place my NAS in a more remote spot in my home, this forum has worn me down and I will end up connecting it via cat 5.  The sound from my uServe > nDAC > NAIT XS is too good to compromise via the use of mains ethernet or wifi.