Kids are taking control...

We just run two wireless networks (thanks Airport extreme). Keeps visitors (and the kids) off my internal network.

James

@ AllenB: useless. They tend to be as smart as we.

For goodness sake, get-a-grip men.

Hmmm - I live alone so maybe I dont understand this but I thought that only one N-Stream could be connected any any one time? 

Either that or cut their hands off if they do it?

Maybe it is possible to lock or forward the IP port in your router.

To all: thank you for sharing your perspectives.

A few more words on my side: nowadays, family structure and roles are much more complex than in the past and do not follow traditional authoritarian rules anymore. In other words, children may be legitimate controllers of the hi-fi system or not, depending on the time of day/night and depending on other family members current activities. So the goal is not to remove permanently the control of the system from the children and forcefully impose a permanent monopoly of use for the parent.

I continue to believe that an open Upnp system, potentially multi-zone, should be designed either as a true multi-user system, and/or it should contain a simple way to resolve conflict of authority between multiple controllers used by different users.

If a unique infra red Remote had priority over any other Upnp controller and could neutralize them quickly, that could be a simple solution in my case. However it would not help if I were to use another Upnp controller, on an Ipad for instance, while the children would try to get control with their Ipod.

Another approach evoked is to include user authentication in the N-Stream application and have different level of access rights for the different users. That would be the perfect solution. Probably again in this approach, the front button and the remote would still have the highest level.

I do not think this problem is correctly addressed by Sonos or other Naim competitors. If not then, maybe there is an opportunity to properly design and sell a multi-zone multi-user family oriented streaming system offering some differentiating features. At least it would be nice to have...

> Maybe there is an opportunity to properly design and sell a multi-zone multi-user family oriented streaming system offering some differentiating features. At least it would be nice to have...

Do you think there would be a market for it? 

Personally I'd like to see it authenticated so nobody, but me could ever access my music collection (especially not adding or deleting tracks) .... but then I'm that kind of Guy. 

Or you could just talk to each other.

Naim have already built a multi user multi room/zone system; they call it NaimNet. Works very well apparently.

Regards

Peter

NaimNet also has built into it from the outset the concept of which users / areas can control other areas - so for instance it can be set up so the parents in the living room can control the childrens bedrooms but the childrens bedrooms cannot control the lounge ... it also can integrate in with heating, lighting and security camera systems, door control, intercoms, Crestron, AMX, Control 4 etc. and has room synchronisation to 3ms...

A very capable system but *MUST* be professionally installed!

Phil