Creating playlists

Use a real server.  Like J River MC.

Neither Linn nor Naim stream clients are able to create playlists. Playlists are  made on the server. Which server are you using?

Hi David.m.72

I am interested to know how you get your ND5xs to read your playlists as I am unable to do it.  I created my playlists in Logitech media server as I use other squeezebox products.  I used ipeng to control a Transporter (now replaced by the ND5XS) so now use nstream . I did post a similar question on this forum but the response indicated that the ND5XS doesn't do playlists?

Oh ok.  Just to be clear, you use ipeng to control your ndx and not nstream? I think ipeng for me will only contol my Duet and radio. My streamers are all connected to my pc which runs media serve.  I can see playlists on nstream but when I click on them the ND5xs just gets confused and seems to freeze up?

Thanks David. I also use FLAC files created in dBpoweramp.  I will do a bit of checking on how to create playlists in ipeng and see what happens. Hey ho, another mystery in  the world of streaming!

That is the job of the server.  Hence my suggestion above.

This was one of the things that put me off Naim and other Hi-Fi manufactures when I auditioned them over a year ago. I ended up buying the Naim DAC and introducing a Mac Mini running iTunes. With the FREE Apple remote running on iPad, iPHone, iPod touch, or other computers. I have full control of the system, play an album, build a playlist, other people can request tracks from anywhere in the house when using iTunes DJ, even visitors can be allowed to participate in the fun. In terms of the whole family living with this kit, it couldn't be easier.

What Naim and some of the other Hi-Fi boys forget is the control point and the user interface can make or break a purchase.

I tend to choose horses for courses, Naim for the Hi-Fi and sound, Apple for software, control and functionality. No messing about with lots of different bits of software and computers.

There appears to be a bug in LMS that prevents their use by the ND5XS/NStream. I have had playlist working with other servers, although I don't use them much. A developer of the DNLA/UPnp functionality for the LMS has admitted on the SB forum that this is far from bug-free or complete.

Thats interesting Chris.  Maybe that means that it may be solved some time in the future? 

Cheers

Once again.  This is the SERVER's responsibility.

I am guessing you can create playlists with nSERVE.

-patrick

Thanks for the suggestions, I will explore other products that allow me to do thi seasily (as Kinsky etc did with Linn Rewew). I need functionality (daugher with issues) and am to swap ultimate sound quality for convenience. Never mind I'm sure the April price increase will deliver what I (and others - wonder why dealers don't explain this, perhaps not enought ask) need!!

Thanks Tog.  I have no problems using LMS it is just the playlist isue that is being debated.  can you play your playlists?

It's true and it's all well and good knowing where playlists and other things are created but most users don't care. They just want to play music in a way that suits and at a quality that suits. The interaction between server and client can make life great or not. these things need to be treated as a whole to give a good end user experience. Not piecemeal.

The user is king and it is one of the first things you learn when working in a computing environment. I don't think that customers should have to go hunting about getting bits from here and there to make a bit of kit work the way they want. The software both client and server should be configurable to cover most reasonable uses and playlists seem like a reasonable function that should be easily done.  

Well said Spartacus! I hope someone at Naim takes a bit of notice.

I wholeheartedly agree.  That is why you should use servers and renderer/players that work well together.  If possible, it would be great if they were from the same manufacturer so you could ensure things like gapless replay and playlists etc.

The obvious mate for ANY Naim Network Player is a Naim Server (HDX, NSOx, Serve).

Otherwise you will unfortunately have to do at least a little bit of computing setting up your own server.  This could be as simple as a NAS with whatever they use, or using J River, or building a Vortebox or HTPC. 

The thing is though, this route often ends in tears for Mac users.  PC people should just use J River which is by far the best media player/server around in my experience.  I have used almost everything out there for the last decade.

Mac peeps should just wait/pray for Airplay or build a cheap PC.  Or of course a Serve and be done with it.

Cheers!

Patrick

They did notice.  Long before anyone else thought to.

Their first product in this consumer line was the HDX.  A server meant to work with all future players.  Now you can get a cheaper, smaller version in the Serve.

Yes they are more expensive than almost any other solution, but guaranteed to be gapless, easy and perfect.

Either pony up or install J River. 

-Patrick

Spot on.  Setting up playlists via Ipad using nServe on an HDX is simplicity itself, as is queuing next tracks etc. It's a joy to use and very quick. Don't need or use nStream so can't compare.

Which begs the question.....when will N Stream have some kind of  playlist function?

Since playlist are a server responsibility I don't see how this is possible. With the HDX I've been spoilt without realising it sometimes. It's just so easy. And it works.