MacBook Pro vs Naim CD5xs

Posted by: Lilyliu on 13 January 2012

No matter what I do with cables or settings, I cannot get the MacBook pro to sound as good as using either a CD5xs or Oppo 83 as transports.  They are just musically better. The Mac is close, but you can always recognize it as not as good.
I'm using toslink Lifatec opticals on both the MacBook and Oppo.  Naim digital on the CD5xs.
I'm connecting to a Qute, and a Supernait with equal results.

Can anyone sort me?
Thanks!
Posted on: 13 January 2012 by Gale 401


Try a M2TECH Hi Face into your Mac usb socket.Come out of it with a digital coax cable into your Snait.

Stu.

Posted on: 13 January 2012 by kfcc

Connecting the USB to a Musical Fidelity V-link, via toslink to DAC is another / better alternative.

 

Thomas

Posted on: 13 January 2012 by John R.

-Use a good USB to coax S/PDIF converter instead of toslink -> less jitter

- Make sure your software settings are "bit perfect" regarding word length and sample rate

- Use a good sounding software player -> Pure Music, Amarra, Audirvana

Posted on: 14 January 2012 by sheffieldgraham
Originally Posted by John R.:

-Use a good USB to coax S/PDIF converter instead of toslink -> less jitter

- Make sure your software settings are "bit perfect" regarding word length and sample rate

- Use a good sounding software player -> Pure Music, Amarra, Audirvana

Suggestions:

 

USB/SPDIF convertor:

M2Tech with BNC or Coax output.

I use a BNC/BNC 75ohm 29db attenuator between coax cable and M2Tech. Reduces reflections in the cable supposedly to give better SQ. 

 

Halide Bridge

 Well respected though more expensive, but comes with cable attached.

 

Software Player : Fidelia (20$ US).

Very versatile player with numerous configurations and file compatibility.

Can match song sample rate automatically. Syncs with your i-Tunes library, but you can create your own in other file formats. 

Posted on: 14 January 2012 by Lilyliu
Thanks, gentlemen.   So USB? I'll try it.
But what about hooking up to a Q? Naim no likey the USB.
Posted on: 14 January 2012 by sheffieldgraham
Originally Posted by Lilyliu:
Thanks, gentlemen.   So USB? I'll try it.
But what about hooking up to a Q? Naim no likey the USB.

Although I'm not familiar withe the Uniqute, looking at the spec. it does have amongst others 2 coaxial SPDIF inputs.

You should therefore be able to connect any USB/SPDIF convertor with a coax out socket.

This would include amongst others the Halide Bridge and M2tech convertors.

Don't confuse USB inputs with SPDIF inputs. NAIM do not encourage direct USB to USB with a computer, but computer USB to Uniqute SPDIF via a convertor is wholly acceptable.

If in doubt contact Naim direct as shown below.

 

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Posted on: 14 January 2012 by AlexWong

the 2011 mac mini optical was already improved.

 

still need a hi face?

 

Posted on: 14 January 2012 by Guido Fawkes
A Lion Mac Mini should not need a hiFace, as long as it is the version without a CD drive. Just connect with a Wireworld Supernova Toslink cable.

For an older Mac Mini or MacBok use a Wireworld USB cable into a MF V-Link (original version) and a Wireworld Supernova into the UQ. I'm unimpressed by the design of then new MF V-Link, which has a coaxial interface.

I avoid Coaxial as an optical connection sounds better to me, as it isolates the computer from the UQ. However don't just use any old Toslink cable. For Mac Mini, the Wireworld Supernova would always be my choice. The TCI cable was superb, but no longer made, plus it has the wrong connector at the Mac end.

Make sure the UQ is well away from your speaker and always on a good support platform. I use mine on a Seismic Sink and it seems to benefit from this.
Posted on: 15 January 2012 by Lilyliu
Thanks again for all the responses.
My MacBook is less than a yr old.
Forgot to add, in my comparisons, I also ran the MacBook and the CD5xs into a Naim DAC, optical for MacBook, digital coax for CD5xs. 

I'm a little disheartened that it seems like I must use additional devices to make the MacBook sound better.  You've been hearing about no more redbook player sales, and computer audio leading the way.  I can understand accessing libraries, all that, but to use a source not equal to redbook, at least with my thinking of knowing how basic many computer based systems are... Dunno.

I will try this USB connection and listen to what happens.