St. Matthew's Passion

Posted by: EJS on 25 March 2012

With Easter coming up, I'd be interested if members have favorite recordings of Bach's St-Matthew's and St-John's Passions. (And if so, which

 

My own preferences tend to fluctuate over time - the below reflects my current disposition on the St-Matthew's Passion. 

 

My first encounter was the old Herreweghe I, a fleet, melodic performance which convinces through sheer beauty of playing, singing and particularly the choral work. The overall approach is still the one I like best, but it's no longer my favorite as I find the counter tenor, René Jacobs, rather grating on repeated listening. Herreweghe had the opportunity to re-record the work some fifteen years later, with a great cast, on paper: Ian Bostridge, Sibylla Rubens, Andreas Scholl. However neither Herreweghe nor the soloists sound particularly inspired and the whole performance sounds flat due to lack of excitement - not an improvement on the older one.

 

In 1997, Jos van Veldhoven and the Dutch Bach Society recorded the work for Channel Classics, live but under studio conditions. Another melodic, musical approach, but delivered more directly by a great lineup  - Andreas Scholl on much better form here than for Herreweghe and really touching in 'Erbarme dich'. While the differences between Veldhoven I and Herreweghe II are occasionally big but often subtle, Veldhoven manages to keep the energy going much more consistently.

 

Veldhoven also re-recorded the work, in 2010 in Naarden, again live. His basic approach hasn't changed although he employs a broader range of tempi and dynamic range, all for the better. For this performance, he increased the size of Coro I with eight ripienists while decreasing Coro II to just the four soloists, the theory for which is explained in the booklet. Listening to the stereo layer, I didn't notice the resulting effect that much. Despite a group of soloists that doesn't quite meet the standards of Veldhoven I and Herreweghe I, it's a trailblazer of a performance and on balance my current favorite. 

 

Also in the late 90s, Paul McCreesh recorded a rather peculiar version in the One-Voice-Per-Part (OVPP) tradition, with a very small orchestra, eight soloists who also do the chorus work. It is not a small scale performance, however. His soloists are top notch, tempi are generally very high, and he employs a huge organ. I think it's great, but for some reason, comes across as if McCreesh doesn't truly believe in the OVPP concept. Overall, the performance is not as moving as the above mentioned but a good runner up and the most fiery of all recorded versions - a great introduction to those who have heard Karajan or Klemperer and want to give the work one last chance.

 

I try to add a new performance to the list every year. I haven't mentioned Harnoncourt, Marriner (live recording) and Klemperer, which I have heard but don't like very much. Worst on my list so far is Karajan, who obviously wanted the world to stop spinning during the sixteen hours this work subjectively lasts. Two recordings I haven't yet heard but really want to, are the recent Koopman and the all-male Leonhardt. I have heard good things about Gardiner, and may go for it one day.

 

On the St-John's Passion, I can be brief: the recent OVPP performance of the Ricercar Consort sweeps the field. Very lively and dramatic, fitting with the music.

 

Cheers,

 

EJ

Posted on: 25 March 2012 by Florestan

EJ, Matthäus-Passion is another favourite topic of mine.  I mostly agree with everything you say.  I have only come to find the latter Veldhoven a year or two ago and I very much like it but I do need to find the earlier version now.  Agreed as well about the early Herreweghe; it is very exciting.  I am not sure why so many people just generally say negative things about Karajan.  His is just another way of doing things.

 

I can appreciate all the versions I have actually.  You have to force yourself though to be focused on the intent of the overall vision of the conductor (whether you agree or not with it).  For instance, their is a huge chasm of intent between say McCreesh and Klemperer but in the right mood I can find wonder in either version.  Although, I have found that the slower, grander scale of Klemperer is a revelation if you are prepared for it.  

 

You already have a nice set of reference recordings which (except for the early Veldhoven & Marriner) I have too. Besides the Gardiner, what I think you can eventually look for is the Masaaki Suzuki, Helmuth Rilling, Karl Richter, and Karl Münchinger.  You may always return to your favourite reference but these are all good in their own way too. 

 

The two new versions I will add this year will be the Riccardo Chailly which will come in the Magnificat box set from Decca / DGG in the next few weeks.  To counter this will be the 1953 recording from Hermann Scherchen.

 

All the best,

Doug

Posted on: 25 March 2012 by R.K

Others with different approaches but enjoyable in their own right are the Peter Schreier Philps set and the Vaughan Williams live recording from 1958.

Posted on: 25 March 2012 by naim_nymph

Only LP sets here...

 

Michel Corboz version (on 3 x LP) Recordings from 1977

 

 

Posted on: 25 March 2012 by naim_nymph

Also have this pair of bobby-dazzlers...

 

Telemann / Kurt Redel (Philips 2 x LP box-sets)

 

 

 

 

Playing the (Telemann) Matthäus-Passion - everything nice and sincere going on with orchestration and individual instrumentation.

The singing is excellent too imho, but when the choir joins in it sounds too large and the recording is overcooked with poor church acoustics.

 

These LP pressings are near-mint, ...not something people like to play too often i guess : )

 

Debs

Posted on: 05 April 2012 by EJS

 

Waiting in my office inbox this morning, and currently in the player. Wow, just hearing Anne Sofie von Otter and Anthony Rolfe Johnson again in music that suits them to a tee, and her voice in her absolute prime, is a delight. The full size Monteverdi Choir's opening chorus is also marvelously done, so first impressions are definitively positive.

 

Cheers,

 

EJ

Posted on: 05 April 2012 by graham55

Listen to BBC Radio 3's CD Review on Saturday (7 April) at 9:30 AM, in which recordings of this work will be compared and assessed.

Posted on: 06 April 2012 by tonym

Currently listening to this version (a JWM recommendation IIRC) - 

 

Posted on: 06 April 2012 by JWM

Yes, funnily enough I have been listening to this this week too

Posted on: 29 March 2013 by EJS

 

Currently: Veldhoven's first.

 

Cheers,

 

EJ

Posted on: 29 March 2013 by EJS

 

Cheers,

 

EJ

Posted on: 29 March 2013 by Florestan

This year I'm listening to the Passions that have been on my shelf for years and were ignored a little while I was busy adding many others through the years.  It may have been 10 years or more since I listened to this one.

 

 

Posted on: 29 March 2013 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by EJS:

 

Waiting in my office inbox this morning, and currently in the player. Wow, just hearing Anne Sofie von Otter and Anthony Rolfe Johnson again in music that suits them to a tee, and her voice in her absolute prime, is a delight. The full size Monteverdi Choir's opening chorus is also marvelously done, so first impressions are definitively positive.

 

Cheers,

 

EJ

I have this version and it is wonderful.

 

It's part of a 9-CD box set that also includes The Christmas Oratorio, the Mass in B Minor and the St John Passion - all excellent. Will give the SMP a spin on Sunday morning...

Posted on: 30 March 2013 by mrclick

 

LP box set of the Schreier is the one I have. Haven't played this for ages, so a good and timely reminder from everyone.

 

Thanks!

 

David

Posted on: 31 March 2013 by T38.45

Great postings folks, excellent recommendations!

 

Ralf

Posted on: 31 March 2013 by EJS

Managed to listen to Herreweghe II, Veldhoven I and II, Gardiner and McCreesh this year. I may have been too critical of the Herreweghe when I started this post last year - I very much enjoyed this year's run-through.

 

Cheers,

 

EJ 

Posted on: 02 April 2013 by m0omo0

Hope everybody had a nice Easter holidays.

 

Thank you EJ for starting this thread. I find always interesting to have opinions on the various interpretations.

 

I only have the Herreweghe from 1999 (I think) and it was recommended to me by a talented choir conductor, so I was a bit surprised about you first opinion but to each his own as always. I only ever heard this one (except a live performance) so no opinion from me on this particular matter.

 

I'd be curious to listen to the McCreesh one of these days.

 

Thanks again and ATB

Maurice