Red wine..

Posted by: RoyleBlue on 12 April 2012

...decanter or not? If yes, any recommendations for a decanter please?

Posted on: 12 April 2012 by Zeplin000

There's no scientific need to use a decanter unless the wine contains obvious sediment.

 

They're really for presentation purposes only. Reidel make some good decanters, but if you dont mind bringing the bottle to the table id stick with that.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 12 April 2012 by Bananahead

Bordeaux, decant

 

Bourgogne, don't

Posted on: 12 April 2012 by Bart
Originally Posted by RoyleBlue:

...decanter or not? If yes, any recommendations for a decanter please?

A fairly hotly debated topic among enophiles.

 

We have a nice decanter from Tiffany.  Reidel makes some nice ones, too.

 

For those who do subscribe to the decantation practice, it's generally limited to the more tannic wines; not burgundy and other pinot noir-based wines.

Posted on: 12 April 2012 by alainbil

IMHO most good quality French wine need decant, unless they are very old.

 

I decant, for at least one hour, all red wines, all sweet wines and many whites. It is quite easy to test by one self; the effect is spectacular with good quality French wines.  It may be also true for other wines, but I have insufficient experience to say.

Posted on: 12 April 2012 by Consciousmess
It's also advisable to 'airate' as well. The quality is enhanced superbly and blind tasting tests repeatedly show this. Jon
Posted on: 12 April 2012 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Consciousmess:
 'airate' 

Aren't you a teacher? Hopefully not an English teacher!

Posted on: 13 April 2012 by alainbil

We have the OENOLOGIE DECANTER from Baccarat.

This is a decanter with a plug.

You do need a plug to close the decanter.

Posted on: 13 April 2012 by naim_nymph

(...where's Rod when you need him?)

 

We had a forum chat about wine a couple of years ago when 'rodwsmith' gave some insight to the needs of decanting, link below...

 

https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...6878607131610/page/2

 

I have found from experience that of most Tesco's red wine is best decanted strait down the kitchen sink waste.

It saves a lot of suffering and cleans up the plug 'ole very nicely...

 

But these days i have a better wine supplier, and i tend to decant all my merlot and Cabenet Sauvignon into one of those funny shaped wine bottles which have a very wide neck. I've re-used this [decanting] bottle lots of times but i make sure it's spotlessly clean before hand, sometimes sterilizing it with a Milton tablet : )

 

Debs

Posted on: 13 April 2012 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by alainbil:

You do need a plug to close the decanter.

Not if you drink it quickly enough!

Posted on: 16 April 2012 by rodwsmith

Hello!

 

A good rule of thumb is that any wine that benefits from age, benefits from air. A decanter is the best way to achieve that (as is swirling the wine around the glass).

 

But a decanter can be anything from a jug to another (sterilised) empty bottle to some weird 'sculpture' thing, It's increasing the surface area that will help expose the wine to oxygen and develop the flavours (while losing any unpleasant volatile components as well). Simply opening the bottle ahead of time doesn't make much if any difference as the surface area in contact with the air is unaltered.

 

Here's an idea (the mind boggles):

 

Why bother to keep wine at all if all you need to do is open it some period in advance? You might wonder. Big Bordeaux? Open three weeks ago last Tuesday. Unfortunately, the minute you open the bottle, airborne bacteria start to get at it and go to work. The greatest enemy is Acetobacter which turns fruit acid (nice) into acetic acid (vinegar). It's natural and all around us. You have about a week, depending on storage temperature and the nature of the wine.

 

Small other tip - decanters are hard to clean (all the more so in hard water areas). Leaving overnight with a solution of bicarbonate of soda will get rid of most stains and watermarks.

 

I decant most wines. But I use an easy-to-clean jug for all but the special stuff.

Aeration makes a massive difference. You may well have noticed that quite a lot of red wine tastes better the next day, if some gets left in the bottle. Many wines improve during the course of a meal. All for this reason.

 

Santé

 

Rod

 

 

 


Posted on: 16 April 2012 by Derry

I reckon this decanting thing is like naim warm-up...

Posted on: 16 April 2012 by naim_nymph
Originally Posted by Frank F:

"i tend to decant all my merlot and Cabenet Sauvignon into one of those funny shaped wine bottles which have a very wide neck"

 

Like the ones that they give to people in hospital when they need a pee in bed??   

FF

 


Well, i guess it's like what they give to men when they need to pee in a hospital bed 

 

Debs

Posted on: 16 April 2012 by JWM

Simply returning it whence it came.

Posted on: 16 April 2012 by naim_nymph

i don't know, Frank, i've never tried

Posted on: 16 April 2012 by EJS

Years ago, I gave a carton of Jungfraumilch to a friend*. He had to decant, since the stuff ate itself through the cardboard packaging. Dumping it in the sink would have been a natural hazard, but it worked well as anti-freeze in the car. (OK, he didn't use it as wiper fluid but the rest is true).

 

EJ

 

* a good joke can cost you friends but no money

Posted on: 30 April 2012 by daniel24
Originally Posted by alainbil:

IMHO most good quality French wine need decant, unless they are very old.

 

I decant, for at least one hour, all red wines, all sweet wines and many whites. It is quite easy to test by one self; the effect is spectacular with good quality French wines.  It may be also true for other wines, but I have insufficient experience to say.

 

I agree, I do the same.