Rush are at it again

Hello Keith,

Sorry you aren't more satisfied with it. I looked at my pressings and the fourth side also has a slight non concentricity, but looks like maybe a mm in either direction. I haven't heard any distortion in the sound from it, maybe if there were some sustained piano or synth notes. If only one side of the record is off, then wouldn't the problem be that the stamper being centered as both sides are pressed at the same time? Same question though, why can't it be centered? If it is bad I would certainly send it back although they may not care.

I think the vinyl is much better than the CD or 24/96 digital master. I'm sure this is pressed from a digital master of some sort but don't know the resolution or if it is a different mastering with different compression. Will compare 24/96 flac again when I get the NDS in on a 555PS DR sometime in the future.

Enjoy!

What a bloody farce isn't it.The sad thing is the band don't care, I have e-mailled left comments on blogs about the brickwalling and nothing.

Connon,

Jesus man you are a naim dealer.

There is no hope for the rest of us.

It does not matter if you play on a old phillips mono portable cassette deck.

Shite in = shite out.

You can't polish a turd 

Stu.

If i am paying good money for new and even SH Vinyl and its not upto standard it goes back.

One reason i buy from sites record companies and dealers that have a good returns system in place,

I bought a thick double vinyl album from ninja records a month ago.

It had four very loud clicks on side D.

So i sent it back .

They sent me a replacement and also another album of my choice free because i had to send it back.

Thats what i call service.

Stu.

Stu,

It's Connon.

I understand the concept. It is a complex world, though, and we're all in it together. I'm doing what I can to make it a better place and working with the tools at hand. I bitch and rail quite regularly but also just get on with when required.

Connon.

Sorry if my post was a bit blunt.

But the CD/Download and Vinyl recordings are a crime against music imo.

When Keith said what he did above and was happy to own it.

Just got my loudness wars back up.

Why do people put up with this ?

Then you said you would try on the new DR kit.

Its pointless even trying for reasons i said above but if you must?.

IMO your time would be better spent hooking up a good quality CD recorder If you still have one?

And playing the CD and recording it onto a blank CD via the analogue input connections setting the recording levels yourself.

It works wonders on shite CDs.

Stu.

The problem with loudness is:

- the difference between the quietest and loudest sounds is too small (dynamic range), which makes the music sound flat and boring;

- the CD is mastered so loud it causes the loudest sounds to hit the upper limit of the CD loudness so that the sound waves have their peaks chopped off. This is clipping and can be heard as digital distortion.

I don't think burning a new CD will fix either of these issues. 

Everyone on this forum should read Perfecting Sound Forever by Greg Milner to understand how we arrived at a situation where masterers are told to ruin music by the record labels (and bands!).

Connon is right. The LP is better, but (on one listen) it doesn't sound radically different from the CD. I'll get Charlie (my son and junior audiophile) to listen later. He returned Arcade Fire's Funeral because it was not concentric and I recently returned the Friday Music pressing of Close To The Edge because it was scratched so we don't generally take these things lying down. I wanted this record on vinyl and there's no point in swapping it if Connon's copy is off centre too.

I think I may be quite sensitive to pitch instability. I used to have a Rega P3 and couldn't get on with it because it wasn't pitch stable enough.

Connon, listen to the outro of The Garden. Surely it's distorted?

Keith

Ok, we just did A/B and the vinyl is much better :-) i may have been expecting miracles or hoping it would sound like Moving Pictures, or maybe i was just tired. It still has the dense "modern" production, but is clearer, more dynamic and more musical. It certainly isn't going back.

Keith

Takes me back. Thus is way I was an angry young man and embraced CD, with all its foibles. I'm glad to have lived long enough to enjoy the benefits streaming but I could just as easily wandered away from my passion.

Finally. Helen has acquired a new car with a distinctly average in car system. And Clockwork Angels sounds rather splendid. Proof if any is needed that the worse the system the "better" the sound from thees brick walled turds. I'll be driving to London, overnight stay and back next week. I might pack Snakes And Arrows for the drive too. It will probably be nice to listen to this also on the kind of rubbish system it was intended for.