What is the most difficult book you've read and/or own?

Posted by: Consciousmess on 22 April 2012

Hi all,

I have been spurred to ask this question as no one has and it feeds off the thread 'What are you presently reading?'....

My answer to this thread title is:

"Extraordinary popular delusions and the Madness of Crowds" by Charles Mackay

I am curious!

Jon
Posted on: 22 April 2012 by Paper Plane

Thoma Pynchon - Against The Day. Have read his others (more than once) but can't finish this one.

 

steve

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by Rosewind

"Ulysses", James Joyce.

 

Best wishes,

Peter Wind

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by Blueknowz

Earthly Powers    Anthony Burgess  Make sure you have a dictionary to hand!

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by fatcat

Between Literature and Science

 

(Poe, Lem, and Explorations in Aesthetics, Cognitive Science, and Literary Knowledge)

 

By Peter Swiriski.

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by Rosewind:

"Ulysses", James Joyce.

 

Best wishes,

Peter Wind

"Ulysses" is a breeze compared to "Finnegan's Wake" by the same author. I've never manage to get past the first 100 pages of "FW" , but not for want of trying.

 

Even now, it's sitting on the bookshelf, glowering at me, taunting, saying: "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough".

 

Have to admit that Wittgenstein's "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus" is pretty heavy going as well.

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by winkyincanada

Joyce for me too - "Dubliners". Xavier Herbet's "Capricornia" was also too much for me.

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by Tony2011

Umberto Eco's "The name of the rose". 

Vesus: Quadermi di studi semiotic.

I have always been fascinated by professor Eco's   socio-linguistical study  and analytical essays of historical and medieval subjects.

Tony

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by Rosewind
Os this what David Lodge called "The humiliation game" in either "Small World" or "Changing Places"? Ha. "Finnegan's Wake" - I haven't even tried. Another difficult one that slippes through my fingers is Spenser's "The Faerie Queen." Another one is Sterne's "The ... of Tristram Shandy" I have read Wittgenstein though: That which you have no knowledge of, you should remain silent about (sorry quoted fron memory). I also read up on Stanley Fish, Derrida, Gerard Genette, some volumes of Bakhtin - "The Dialogic Imagination" for instance. All of Paul Celan in German + half of Shakespeare. Plus Doris Lesding's "Canopus in Argos" series + Children of Violence and quite a few more noveld. All of Hanif Kurreishi - even "The Buddha of Surburbia" with the memorable "Dildo Killer". So I don't feel too left out. Best wishes, Peter Wind
Posted on: 22 April 2012 by Chief Chirpa

Nabokov - Pale Fire (Something of a page-turner, Lolita is like a 300 page cryptic crossword, and even makes some sense after a while. Pale Fire is similarly perfect and precise, but just impenetrable.)

 

Joyce - Finnegans Wake (Laughs in the face of Ulysses, and just unreadable. Has to be a joke, right?)

 

TS Eliot - The Waste Land (A modern masterpiece. Thoughtfully, TS includes some notes to help with the more allusive lines. Thoughtfully, a few people have since written books which make some sense of TS's notes.)

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by King Size

"In The Shape of A Boar" by Lawrence Norfolk.  Not the most difficult i've read, more like one that whenever I try read it I find it too difficult and not engaging enough to persevere with.

 

I like this quote from The Guardian Review:

 

Unknowable, too, are the shapes of the original myths themselves: heroes die in one telling, only to reappear fighting a new enemy in another version. Norfolk floods the first few pages of his account with an ironic surge of scholarly footnotes, tributaries of manifold myth-rivers merging in a wild sea of contradictory meanings. Slowly this babble of papyric voices recedes, drawing the reader in expertly to the potent tug of the main text; eventually the footnotes reappear to trace the ambivalences of the tale's mysterious end.

Posted on: 22 April 2012 by King Size
Originally Posted by Rosewind:
Os this what David Lodge called "The humiliation game" in either "Small World" or "Changing Places"? Ha. "Finnegan's Wake" - I haven't even tried. Another difficult one that slippes through my fingers is Spenser's "The Faerie Queen." Another one is Sterne's "The ... of Tristram Shandy" I have read Wittgenstein though: That which you have no knowledge of, you should remain silent about (sorry quoted fron memory). I also read up on Stanley Fish, Derrida, Gerard Genette, some volumes of Bakhtin - "The Dialogic Imagination" for instance. All of Paul Celan in German + half of Shakespeare. Plus Doris Lesding's "Canopus in Argos" series + Children of Violence and quite a few more noveld. All of Hanif Kurreishi - even "The Buddha of Surburbia" with the memorable "Dildo Killer". So I don't feel too left out. Best wishes, Peter Wind

Derrida... there's a name i haven't heard since my university days.  Along with Barthes, Lacan and Saussure.  Those were the days....

Posted on: 23 April 2012 by bazz

A Suitable Boy. Had a couple of chops at it, yet to reach page 400. War and Peace was a doddle by comparison.

Posted on: 23 April 2012 by JMB

'The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman'

 

By Laurence Sterne

 

One of the few books I gave up on.

Posted on: 23 April 2012 by JWM

St Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae.

Posted on: 23 April 2012 by Richard Dane

Probably the most challenging book I have read was Paul Tillich's Dynamics of Faith, which I read as a 15 year old at school.  We were studying Tillich as a backdrop to learning about different faiths.  On first read, it was such a labour that very little made much sense.  However, when re-read a second and third time, it all began to make a lot more sense.  It's a book that still has a profound influence on me as well as the others in my class who read it.  It's not the easiest read (even now), but if you wish to better understand mankind's need for true faith then it's indispensible.  Gandhi's All Men are Brothers, which I read immediately afterwards, was a doddle in comparison.

Posted on: 23 April 2012 by Richard S
Originally Posted by JMB:

'The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman'

 

By Laurence Sterne

 

One of the few books I gave up on.

Me too, my copy is still enjoying a prolonged sojourn in a villa on Lanzarotte.

Yet I liked the film adaptation "A Cock and Bull Story".

Posted on: 23 April 2012 by alainbil

The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money (John Maynard Keynes).

 

The Tale of Genji ‘Murasaki Shikibu)

 

V (Thomas Pynchon)

Posted on: 24 April 2012 by Sniper

Dancing in Emptiness by Graham Smetham - a book that finally resolves all the different interpretations of quantum theory using Buddhist philosophy - not an easy read but he is correct. Most bright people would croak half way through and the average man on the street would not get past the first chapter. 

Posted on: 24 April 2012 by Dungassin

I'd say any of the books which my grandchildren regard as their favourites.  After you've read "the hungry caterpillar" for the umpteenth time, brain death seems not that far away.

Posted on: 24 April 2012 by Donuk

Currently reading The Beginning of Infinity, By David Deutsch.

He's a bright lad, not lacking in self confidence.

A bit too dismissive of people who don't agree with him - even if they are scientific and philosophical giants.

Good for the grey matter....

 

Posted on: 24 April 2012 by David

For me

 

Moby Dick - too much volume 

 

Clockwork Orange - just not get's get to grips with the language

 

 

David

Posted on: 25 April 2012 by Sniper
Originally Posted by Donuk:

Currently reading The Beginning of Infinity, By David Deutsch.

He's a bright lad, not lacking in self confidence.

A bit too dismissive of people who don't agree with him - even if they are scientific and philosophical giants.

Good for the grey matter....

 

Personally, I am dismissive of David Deutsch. 

Posted on: 25 April 2012 by Tog

Don Quixote in school when I was ten - not sure I understood it all.

 

Tog

Posted on: 25 April 2012 by Bruce Woodhouse

Tog, good call. Don Quixote is one of very few books I've failed to finish, despite trying at least twice. Umberto Eco's Foucaults Pendulum is another. I have a vague memory of a Douglas Adams quip about a bestselling book being so inpenetrable that after a while the publishers saved money by only printing on the first 50 pages.

 

The most difficult book I've read is possibly 'Slaughterhouse 5'. Not hard to read, but hard to live with for the days and weeks afterwards.

 

Bruce

Posted on: 26 April 2012 by lotus340r

Anything by melanie klein