Al*** art on n-stream

Posted by: Sloop John B on 09 January 2011

I'm streaming from a buffalo NAS to UniQute and everything is working smoothly.
When updating the app the other day I noticed the artwork for Gwyneth Herbert's album pictured in the n-stream app.

I'm streaming from iTunes library, is there some setting for where album art is stored that I'm missing as I have no art work showing up on the n-stream screen
Posted on: 09 January 2011 by Tog
quote:
Originally posted by Sloop John B:
I'm streaming from a buffalo NAS to UniQute and everything is working smoothly.
When updating the app the other day I noticed the artwork for Gwyneth Herbert's album pictured in the n-stream app.

I'm streaming from iTunes library, is there some setting for where album art is stored that I'm missing as I have no art work showing up on the n-stream screen


Which UPnP server are you using?

Tog
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by Sloop John B
The buffalo NAS has its own UPNP.
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by okli
I assume you are using the DAAP server, coming with buffalo NAS to use your iTunes library? I've never used this feature on my buffalo linkstation duo, but there are some posts on the firefly (the DAAP server) forum regarding incompatibilities with iTunes 10 and some posts regarding disabled album art support because of crashes - a bit outdated, but perhaps still applicable for the buffalo version of the product... I'll try with firefly forums and may be with buffalo support even, if I they were not of much help to me, but hopefully you'll have better luck with them.
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by Tog
quote:
Originally posted by AllenB:
It's been covered in other threads, but with UPnP servers, I believe you have to have 'folder.jpg's' or 'cover.jpg's' (or similar) in each album folder. This is the way album art is shown at the client end (n-Stream / Qute), and furthermore, I think this is the case even if album art is embedded into your music files.


Quite right if you are using a UPnP server to organise and distribute your files. If it is serving up files from Itunes directly on your PC or Mac it will have problems picking up album art for n-stream due to the way itunes handles album art. Eyeconnect certainly won't pick any up but otherwise cohabits with itunes on a Mac.

Using a DAAP itunes server on a NAS is a bit more complicated because Apple keeps this protocol quite close to their chest. Firefy (Daapd) has always been flakey but is used widely by manufacturers to tick the Itunes Server spec off their list.

Firefly was broken by Itunes 10 (thanks Steve) but repaired by forked-daapd, an open source project that has really improved on Firefly. forked-daapd is bundled as part of Vortexbox and works very well streaming to Itunes. It even transcodes flac into wav.

However, using a DAAP server with n-stream is likely to be a non-starter.

If you are on a NAS use ASSET UPnP to organize your music and forget itunes. The likelyhood of a future Itunes version refusing to work is high.

Tog
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by Sloop John B
getting very complicated.


Thanks for your help, think I'll skip the artwork until Naim have their all in 1 program



SJB
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by james n
Given the high proportion of people that use iTunes I'm surprised that more UPnP servers don't integrate better with an iTunes library. Why is it so difficult ?

James
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by Tog
quote:
Originally posted by Sloop John B:
getting very complicated.


Thanks for your help, think I'll skip the artwork until Naim have their all in 1 program
SJB

@SloopJohnB
What is an "all in one program" ?
@James N -
UPnP is seen as a PC thing in the Apple world, hence the lack of good Mac offerings. Apple regard it with distain and are pursuing their own version via DAAP and airplay. Since most PC based UPnP implementations provide their own library management there are few incentives for
providing much integration with iTunes.

Shame really.

Tog
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by divuk83
I'm using n-stream and have a quick question for those in the know; is there anyway of embedding album art to FLAC files on a MAC? Twonky (on my ReadyNAS) only seems to pick up some of them and does not look for the folder.jpg file like foobar's UPNP server did.

Cheers

Dave
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by Tog
quote:
Originally posted by divuk83:
I'm using n-stream and have a quick question for those in the know; is there anyway of embedding album art to FLAC files on a MAC? Twonky (on my ReadyNAS) only seems to pick up some of them and does not look for the folder.jpg file like foobar's UPNP server did.

Cheers

Dave


Tricky on a Mac - sbooth makes a small program called tag - a sibling to the excellent Max which may be able to do what you want.

I use Bliss on Vortexbox (miniDlna)to embed cover art with flac but most of the time n-stream picks up the cover.jpeg files.

Actually your best bet is to ditch Twonky altogether - will Asset work on your NAS?

Tog
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by pcstockton
quote:
Apple regard it with distain and are pursuing their own version via DAAP and airplay


Same as it ever was, and destined to take the world by force as with ALAC.
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by Mr Underhill
Hi Allen,

Just loaded this onto my media server:

http://www.unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/projects/albumart/

Automatically names the selected & dragged image file as 'folder.jpg'.

Spent the evening plugging holes in my artwork!

Asset-Control starting to move from looking utilitarian to attractive!

M
Posted on: 10 January 2011 by Tog
So Allen

You organise in iTunes - store downloads to a NAS in aiff, add the cover art in the usual way with a jpeg and use UnitiServe to pull it all together with your CD collection on the Serve.

Why not organise everything together in one place - this is why I still don't quite get the UnitiServe approach.

Tog
Posted on: 11 January 2011 by james n
quote:
@James N -
UPnP is seen as a PC thing in the Apple world, hence the lack of good Mac offerings. Apple regard it with distain and are pursuing their own version via DAAP and airplay. Since most PC based UPnP implementations provide their own library management there are few incentives for
providing much integration with iTunes.


Thanks Tog. I did wonder Smile

James
Posted on: 11 January 2011 by okli
quote:
Originally posted by divuk83:
I'm using n-stream and have a quick question for those in the know; is there anyway of embedding album art to FLAC files on a MAC? Twonky (on my ReadyNAS) only seems to pick up some of them and does not look for the folder.jpg file like foobar's UPNP server did.

Cheers

Dave


Take a look at the FLAC's project homepage at sourceforge - there are some tools listed for OSX. And the metaflac tools are available for OSX as well - using terminal you can embed the pictures to your flacs with the provided options.
Posted on: 11 January 2011 by okli
quote:
Originally posted by okli:
quote:
Originally posted by divuk83:
I'm using n-stream and have a quick question for those in the know; is there anyway of embedding album art to FLAC files on a MAC? Twonky (on my ReadyNAS) only seems to pick up some of them and does not look for the folder.jpg file like foobar's UPNP server did.

Cheers

Dave


Take a look at the FLAC's project homepage at sourceforge - there are some tools listed for OSX. And the metaflac tools are available for OSX as well - using terminal you can embed the pictures to your flacs with the provided options.


i.e. for $file in `ls -l *.flac` do metaflac --import-picture-from="Folder.jpg" %file done
Posted on: 11 January 2011 by Tog
quote:
Originally posted by okli:
quote:
Originally posted by okli:
quote:
Originally posted by divuk83:
I'm using n-stream and have a quick question for those in the know; is there anyway of embedding album art to FLAC files on a MAC? Twonky (on my ReadyNAS) only seems to pick up some of them and does not look for the folder.jpg file like foobar's UPNP server did.

Cheers

Dave


Take a look at the FLAC's project homepage at sourceforge - there are some tools listed for OSX. And the metaflac tools are available for OSX as well - using terminal you can embed the pictures to your flacs with the provided options.


i.e. for $file in `ls -l *.flac` do metaflac --import-picture-from="Folder.jpg" %file done


simples Confused

Tog
Posted on: 11 January 2011 by okli
quote:
Originally posted by Tog:
quote:
Originally posted by okli:
quote:
Originally posted by okli:
quote:
Originally posted by divuk83:
I'm using n-stream and have a quick question for those in the know; is there anyway of embedding album art to FLAC files on a MAC? Twonky (on my ReadyNAS) only seems to pick up some of them and does not look for the folder.jpg file like foobar's UPNP server did.

Cheers

Dave


Take a look at the FLAC's project homepage at sourceforge - there are some tools listed for OSX. And the metaflac tools are available for OSX as well - using terminal you can embed the pictures to your flacs with the provided options.


i.e. for $file in `ls -l *.flac` do metaflac --import-picture-from="Folder.jpg" %file done


simples Confused

Tog


I thought you like bash ;-)
Posted on: 11 January 2011 by Tog
I do but I'm not sure anyone else does

Roll Eyes

Tog
Posted on: 12 January 2011 by Sloop John B
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Underhill:
Hi Allen,

Just loaded this onto my media server:

http://www.unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/projects/albumart/

Automatically names the selected & dragged image file as 'folder.jpg'.

Spent the evening plugging holes in my artwork!

Asset-Control starting to move from looking utilitarian to attractive!

M



Thanks for that Mr. Underhill, that's a nice simple program that even I can use and it's practically acronym free.



SJB
Posted on: 12 February 2011 by srjudd
Originally Posted by AllenB:


       


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quote:
Originally posted by Tog:

quote:
Originally posted by AllenB:

It's been covered in other threads, but with UPnP servers, I believe you have to have 'folder.jpg's' or 'cover.jpg's' (or similar) in each album folder. This is the way album art is shown at the client end (n-Stream / Qute), and furthermore, I think this is the case even if album art is embedded into your music files.

Quite right if you are using a UPnP server to organise and distribute your files. If it is serving up files from Itunes directly on your PC or Mac it will have problems picking up album art for n-stream due to the way itunes handles album art. Eyeconnect certainly won't pick any up but otherwise cohabits with itunes on a Mac.



Tog
 Well I keep my downloaded music (in AIFF) organised in iTunes and then share the iTunes folder to the UpnP server (UnitiServe in my case). As each album is added in the usual way, I then add a folder.jpg in the folder on the NAS, if iTunes has picked up the album art, it's simply a case of dragging it from the Now Playing / Selected window in iTunes into the folder on the NAS and renaming it to 'folder.jpg'. Then get the Serve to refresh the share. It's simpler than typing this post   Winker
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Am I correct that unitiserve will play aiff but Uniti will not. After reading this post, I thought this would resolve my issues with compatibility with my Uniti & iTunes but maybe not. Why can't the Uniti read aiff if the unitiserve can?    I am getting frustrated with these incompatibilities.
Posted on: 13 February 2011 by Tog
Yes you are - at the moment the firmware in the Uniti will not play aiff. The UnitiServe however copes with aiff very well and will transcode it to wav for the Uniti.

Tog