2011 forum update

The trouble is, the loss of face.

Chris

The clearer separation of posts is not a bad thing, now just get the bloody software working on an iPad.

... well, maybe I spoke too soon, what is my signature doing attached right to my post -- with no separation?

A disaster! Please put it back.

This forum is the worst I've ever seen design/layout-wise ... and I think I've seen a few.

One wonders what the people at Naim are really thinking, have they lost their marbles completely?

Its taken seven months to make it even worse ??

You cant edit posts now and when you click on a post it takes you to the thread start post so you have to scroll the whole page to get to it.

For heaven's sake Mike, for someone who understands FM like you do, understands electricity, and can build cabinets!!!!........ Go to Manage (top right), then Personal Settings, then Look and Feel, then select GMT +1 in the time settings.

I think you might have to change it back at the autumn equinox but let's not spoil the summer worrying over it!

Chris

Too busy working on retirement & enjoying the summer Chris.

But I do need to keep up the grumpy ol' git stuff or people will think I'm going soft 

I just don't see why the simple stuff can't get done,  even the Purple Flounder Mire can do that.

Cheers Mike.

About the forum as it is now:

In the city where I live, the bin men are on strike. Some people are moaning about the rubbish piling up and the binmen not doing their job. Others are taking direct action and taking their rubbish to the depot themselves......... 

Maybe it's time for direct action.

Chris

Great idea,  we could use Stu's (Gale 401) bin

Dear Paul,

Why not put up an official thread where constructive feedback is requested from us, i.e. what would we like the forum to look like and what changes do we believe need to be made to make this an enjoyable forum again? Such an "official poll", if the feedback is then acted upon, will most likely lead to much better results than the current version.

Best regards

tp

Already had two of those.

https://forums.naimaudio.com/di.../lastReply#lastReply

$5 says it is because you call them "binmen".

Although we may be divided by a common language, I think our enthusiasm for Naim is shared. I made a point about responsibility.

At some point rather than moan about the behaviour or actions of others, we can decide to take actions of our own. At least that's what I would do if I was as dissatisfied a user of this forum as some here appear to be.

Chris

Richard,

Yes I am aware of those threads. I was just thinking that it might be helpful to gather feedback in the context of the existing Hoop.la forum and how to improve that. My interpretation of the situation was that, as you say, Naim are invested in Hoop.la and that chances of switching to an entirely new forum architecture and design are, therefore, highly unlikely.

Tbh, I actually think that the forum is ok in many ways but it needs some tweaking now and for this constructive feedback might be helpful. A lot of good feedback, although possibly not presented in the nicest way, has already been given in John's "Hoop.less does itself proud...." thread.

But as you say I am sure Naim have their own ideas of where they would like to go with this forum. It just seems Hoop.la either don't listen or maybe Naim got it wrong themselves with regards to what sticks with customers and what doesn't.

I personally think this site looks way too much like a social networking site, pretty pictures and all, who's online, etc. Problem is there are hardly any 14 year olds here on the forum. Plus, as it has been mentioned before, the tags are pretty useless, there already is a search function if you need it, and the whole navigation column on the right is taking up way too much space, to the point where the essential, i.e. peoples' comments are suffering. They are a pain to read, even more so now than before. What's this forum's purpose? It's to communicate ideas / contributions in a clear and immediately accessible fashion, the less faffing around the better, no gimmicks needed. Hoop.la is trying way too hard.

Just my thoughts. In the end we all want the same, I hope we get there.... eventually.

Thanks!

To me the folk who control the layout of the site do not seem to be prepared to provide it in the way that is best for its users. When I first used a word processor, it was on a Commodore computer with a 40 character screen; one of the biggest improvements was when I went to the Amiga computer and it had an 80 character screen for Vizawrite. Looking back, there were lots of shortcomings in that software by today's standards, but when they gave me the ability to use the whole screen I forgot those - it was to me THE most important feature. 

I can't understand why it is so difficult to change the layout and lose the right hand column so that we can could enjoy the full width of the screen. I can't see any use for the right hand column. No other forum I've seen has the redundant right hand column feature. 

The second design idiosyncrasy is the trapping of the posting window in the frame of the main site. Again I've not seen this done elsewhere. 

I doubt there is a single forum user who would not prefer to be able to use the full screen width and have a separate window for posting. Moreover, I think these two enhancements would completely change the perception of the forum. This is only two minor changes for hoop.la, but would make a massive difference to Naim and its community of forum users. 

Naim equipment is (mostly) very easy to use - once set up you can just play music on it. Same goes for a good forum - you want to be able to read posts and create posts not struggle with the controls and layout. 

Thanks Naim or Hoopla

The last (new) post button now goes to the last post in the thread

1 down -  maybe world clock syncro & full width text screen next - pleeze

Why is this if the product or service is not how you would have it?

I used to use another brand of amplifier decades ago and when I had a problem the repsonse from the maker was poor. So I moved to another brand and I am still here 29 years later.

Andy

Exactly, even Hope.Less own site states:-

From http://www.hoop.la/plans

If I want to leave, can I export my data?

Yes, you can. For now, it will be a manual process (you'll need to send us a request at http://help.socialstrata.com). In the future, we're looking to add an export function from the control panel directly.

About time to do the right thing, and put Hope.Less out of our misery. Preferably with a large shovel.

John