sandy denny
Posted by: Andy1912 on 13 July 2010
Someone (I think ROTF) recently posted on Sandy Denny and Strawbs singing Who knows where the time goes. So, I have been doing some research on her, and I am wondering which LP that she has been involved with people who know better than me would recommend (Sandy Denny/Strawbs/Fotheringay/Fairport Convention?
Thanks for your thoughts
Andy
Thanks for your thoughts
Andy
Posted on: 13 July 2010 by Hot Rats
'Unhalfbricking' with Fairport Convention would rank in my favourite ten albums of all time.
'Liege and Lief' and 'What We Did On Our Holidays' also get an unreserved recommendation.
The first album by Fotheringay has some great tracks on it but the quality is not as consistent as the albums that Sandy denny recorded with Fairport Convention.
Whatever you choose ... enjoy her unique talent
'Liege and Lief' and 'What We Did On Our Holidays' also get an unreserved recommendation.
The first album by Fotheringay has some great tracks on it but the quality is not as consistent as the albums that Sandy denny recorded with Fairport Convention.
Whatever you choose ... enjoy her unique talent
Posted on: 13 July 2010 by ewemon
quote:Originally posted by munch:
Andy,
Anything she did with Fairport gets my vote.
Stu
Same here but the best cover version of Who Knows Where The Times Goes has to be Nanci Griffiths on Atlantic Sessions. You can watch it on youtube.
Posted on: 14 July 2010 by jim learoyd
Ewen
Well this version is fantastic (never heard it before) and I never would have thought that Sandy Denny's version would be surpassed but it has!
jim...
Well this version is fantastic (never heard it before) and I never would have thought that Sandy Denny's version would be surpassed but it has!
jim...
Posted on: 14 July 2010 by Andy1912
Thanks everyone.
I bought about 200 LPs of someone about a year ago, and always forget what was in the pile. Anyway, went and had a look through them last night and sitting nicely unfer F was Unhalfbricking! It's a one of those mid-price re-releases from the 80s so the sound isn't the best so I may try to get another copy. Good stuff though.
Thanks
Andy
I bought about 200 LPs of someone about a year ago, and always forget what was in the pile. Anyway, went and had a look through them last night and sitting nicely unfer F was Unhalfbricking! It's a one of those mid-price re-releases from the 80s so the sound isn't the best so I may try to get another copy. Good stuff though.
Thanks
Andy
Posted on: 14 July 2010 by nickpeacock
Try Kate Rusby's version (and anything else by Kate Rusby - eg great cover of Village Green Preservation Society). Available on YouTube.
PS - the album History of Fairport Convention has "Who knows where the time goes" as well as "Matty Groves", FP's best song IMHO and sung by Sandy Denny. I give you England's answer to the Velvet Undergound (Venus in Furs)...
PS - the album History of Fairport Convention has "Who knows where the time goes" as well as "Matty Groves", FP's best song IMHO and sung by Sandy Denny. I give you England's answer to the Velvet Undergound (Venus in Furs)...
Posted on: 14 July 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Sandy Denny is one of the greatest figures ever to enter the folk rock scene - I think only Shirley Collins could claim to be a more influential and important person in the revival of folk music in the UK than Sandy and Shirley is far too modest for that.
Sandy died tragically young - she was a great singer. I would recommended her amazing debut on
Although Dave Cousins (no bad thing) contributes many of the songs on this album and it is not recorded at perfect pitch; it does contain Sandy in great form and the first studio outing of probably the greatest contemporary song ever written Who Knows Where The Time Goes. I love Kate Rusby's work, but she isn't Sandy Denny, and I don't think even Kate at her best can match the impact of Sandy on this elpee.
Sandy joined Fairport for their second album - Fairport's first featured Judy Dyble and is thoroughly recommended as it is one the sixty's great elpees, especially as the latest re-master contains the debut single Ribbon Bow. But this thread is about Sandy.
What We Did On Our Holidays is a fine fine album. Some great tracks by Richard Thompson and Sandy's vocal. She wrote the opening track - the haunting Fotheringay.
Unhalfbricking is the follow-up and a natural progression for the Fairport Convention. It is more English in its approach and contains two Sandy gems Autopsy and the Fairport Convention's version of Who Knows Where The Time Goes. Sandy also contributes to the arrangements on other tracks such as the epic Sailor's Tale which is a landmark track.
Enough has been written about Liege and Lief and only by listening to it can one fully appreciate just how good this album is. It is better and more significant than many often touted great albums and it deserves inclusion in anybody's desert island disks. Sandy contributes Come All Ye as well as lead vocals throughout. Dave Swarbrick is on board on his fiddle. If you haven't got this buy it.
However, don't stop there .... Sandy left the Fairports and formed Fotheringay - Sandy leads everything and wrote 5 of the songs.
After which she went solo and ... well continued to make great albums ... The North Star Grassman and the Ravens is a beautiful elpee and is every bit as good as anything Fairport made save possibly Liege. Just listen to Late November - what an inspired song.
Which brings me to the best album of the lot .... an album entitled Sandy
Of course you could ignore my plea to listen to this album and you could continue happily through life without hearing one of the greatest collection of songs and the greatest singing ever committed to vinyl. Well I'm bound to be controversial, but forget all those so called great female singers and listen to this - nobody does it better. Whether the genre be classical, jazz or pop Sandy's performance is in a different class.
So if you only want to buy one album by Sandy then buy Sandy - this is an incredible record and the template for many a singer songwriter and for those it is not it should be. I'm not silly enough to say this is as good as anything released by Dylan, Cohen or Mitchell, it is much better than that (and I love the music of all three of those). This is as good as MCC at her best, this is up there with Folk Roots New Routes and Anthems in Eden, it is that good.
The follow up Like an Old Fashioned Waltz is not as good as Sandy - it is not a bad record and neither is her return to the Fairport's with 1975's Rising for the Moon nor her next solo effort Rendezvous.
If you want an anthology then No More Sad Refrains is great. It covers Sandy's career from Fairport onwards.
However, my favourite collection is yet to come
In October we should see the release of a 19 CD set containing Sandy's complete studio recordings with Alex Campbell, Johnny Silvo, Fotheringay, Strawbs, Fairport Convention and solo and 8 CDs worth of live recordings and previously unreleased material. Well this may be extreme, but it is definitive and you get the assembled works of one of the three greatest singers ever recorded (Shirley and Annie Haslam are the other two).
Yes I'm OTT, but you are asking about one of Britain's national treasurers - 'The Lady' Alexandra Elene MacLean Lucas (Sandy Denny) 6.1.47 - 21.4.78.
Sandy died tragically young - she was a great singer. I would recommended her amazing debut on
Although Dave Cousins (no bad thing) contributes many of the songs on this album and it is not recorded at perfect pitch; it does contain Sandy in great form and the first studio outing of probably the greatest contemporary song ever written Who Knows Where The Time Goes. I love Kate Rusby's work, but she isn't Sandy Denny, and I don't think even Kate at her best can match the impact of Sandy on this elpee.
Sandy joined Fairport for their second album - Fairport's first featured Judy Dyble and is thoroughly recommended as it is one the sixty's great elpees, especially as the latest re-master contains the debut single Ribbon Bow. But this thread is about Sandy.
What We Did On Our Holidays is a fine fine album. Some great tracks by Richard Thompson and Sandy's vocal. She wrote the opening track - the haunting Fotheringay.
Unhalfbricking is the follow-up and a natural progression for the Fairport Convention. It is more English in its approach and contains two Sandy gems Autopsy and the Fairport Convention's version of Who Knows Where The Time Goes. Sandy also contributes to the arrangements on other tracks such as the epic Sailor's Tale which is a landmark track.
Enough has been written about Liege and Lief and only by listening to it can one fully appreciate just how good this album is. It is better and more significant than many often touted great albums and it deserves inclusion in anybody's desert island disks. Sandy contributes Come All Ye as well as lead vocals throughout. Dave Swarbrick is on board on his fiddle. If you haven't got this buy it.
However, don't stop there .... Sandy left the Fairports and formed Fotheringay - Sandy leads everything and wrote 5 of the songs.
After which she went solo and ... well continued to make great albums ... The North Star Grassman and the Ravens is a beautiful elpee and is every bit as good as anything Fairport made save possibly Liege. Just listen to Late November - what an inspired song.
Which brings me to the best album of the lot .... an album entitled Sandy
Of course you could ignore my plea to listen to this album and you could continue happily through life without hearing one of the greatest collection of songs and the greatest singing ever committed to vinyl. Well I'm bound to be controversial, but forget all those so called great female singers and listen to this - nobody does it better. Whether the genre be classical, jazz or pop Sandy's performance is in a different class.
So if you only want to buy one album by Sandy then buy Sandy - this is an incredible record and the template for many a singer songwriter and for those it is not it should be. I'm not silly enough to say this is as good as anything released by Dylan, Cohen or Mitchell, it is much better than that (and I love the music of all three of those). This is as good as MCC at her best, this is up there with Folk Roots New Routes and Anthems in Eden, it is that good.
The follow up Like an Old Fashioned Waltz is not as good as Sandy - it is not a bad record and neither is her return to the Fairport's with 1975's Rising for the Moon nor her next solo effort Rendezvous.
If you want an anthology then No More Sad Refrains is great. It covers Sandy's career from Fairport onwards.
However, my favourite collection is yet to come
In October we should see the release of a 19 CD set containing Sandy's complete studio recordings with Alex Campbell, Johnny Silvo, Fotheringay, Strawbs, Fairport Convention and solo and 8 CDs worth of live recordings and previously unreleased material. Well this may be extreme, but it is definitive and you get the assembled works of one of the three greatest singers ever recorded (Shirley and Annie Haslam are the other two).
Yes I'm OTT, but you are asking about one of Britain's national treasurers - 'The Lady' Alexandra Elene MacLean Lucas (Sandy Denny) 6.1.47 - 21.4.78.
Posted on: 14 July 2010 by bornwina
Welcome to the select fold of those who know.
I would start with Fairport Liege and Lief, the Fotheringay album and solo North Star Grassman and the Ravens.
For me she could sing the phone book and it would be worth listening to however all Fairport to Liege and Lief, Fotheringay and solo studio albums are essential.
I would start with Fairport Liege and Lief, the Fotheringay album and solo North Star Grassman and the Ravens.
For me she could sing the phone book and it would be worth listening to however all Fairport to Liege and Lief, Fotheringay and solo studio albums are essential.
Posted on: 14 July 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Put me down for a copy too.quote:Originally posted by bornwina:
For me she could sing the phone book and it would be worth listening to ..
Posted on: 15 July 2010 by Andy1912
OK ROTF you convinced me. I bought a copy of Sandy for £12 today at the local 2nd hand record shop. Anyone know how this version compares to the recent 180g re-release?
Cheers
Andy
Cheers
Andy
Posted on: 23 July 2010 by Guido Fawkes
I notice lots of people listening to Sandy lately, which has to be a good thing. I'm not convinced the vinyl is any better than the CD, but you may prefer your vinyl replay system to your CD one.
Posted on: 23 July 2010 by Nick Lees
Simon Nichol tells about visiting her to audition her for Fairport. By the time he'd left (utterly entranced) he realised that she'd been auditioning them. They passed.
Posted on: 26 July 2010 by Rockingdoc
I am as similarly obsessed with Sandy Denny as others here, but must say I think Fotheringay is her best and most essential album. Although it has the added inconvenience of needing to skip any track on which her ex, Trevor Lucas, sings.
Posted on: 26 July 2010 by rich46
quote:Originally posted by Rockingdoc:
I am as similarly obsessed with Sandy Denny as others here, but must say I think Fotheringay is her best and most essential album. Although it has the added inconvenience of needing to skip any track on which her ex, Trevor Lucas, sings.
great live .sandy was underated back then.
glad she as got the credit now. most of my stuff is on record. i noticed that a cd new box set is out. anyone out there can review it for me thanks
Posted on: 26 July 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Not available until October - I have it on order: bit expensive seeing I've got all the easy to get material, but apparently lots of hard to find stuff.quote:i noticed that a cd new box set is out
Does anybody agree with me that the Battle of Evermore was by far and away the best vocal performance on any Led Zeppelin track - Robert Plant once said so too and he wasn't referring to his own contribution: he knew at once he'd sung with one of the very best
Posted on: 27 July 2010 by Guido Fawkes
I don't think it was Sandy's best ever - I think it was Led Zeppelin's best ever - IMHO being Sandy's backing band was the pinnacle for the Strawbs, Fairport Convention and Led Zeppelinquote:Originally posted by munch:
I dont know if it was her best ever? but it has to be up there as a all time great vocal work.
Stu
I like all three of those bands of course - doesn't everybody?
I'd have like to have heard more of Led Zeppelin backing Sandy.
Nearly all my favourite singers are female - Shirley, Sandy, Annie, Melanie, Karine, Basia, Chapin, Kate, Polly, Celia, Mary, Joni, Lucinda, Loreena, Angie, Sonja, Judy, Vashti, Dusty, Petula, Grace, Rachel, Jackie, Cara, Laura, Gracie, Tori, Florence .... the list goes on.
Posted on: 27 July 2010 by Folkman
ROTF......she may be on your list but if you haven't heard her , try Karan Casey. Her latest album 'Ships in the Forest' is really good.
Posted on: 27 July 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Thanks Folkman - listened to some of her music on her web site - excellent - I'll order a CD ...
Posted on: 06 August 2010 by Rockingdoc
It was good to hear the repeat of the Sandt Denny documentary on BBC Radio 2 on Wednesday. Worth a listen on iPlayer if you haven't heard it before. I hadn't realised Joe Boyd was so pissed off with her for Fotheringay.
Posted on: 08 August 2010 by BigH47
Excellent programme, what a sad tale of an ultimately un-fulfilled talent.
Just as well we have what there is,but it could have been so much more.
Joe Boyd was either very talented or lucky with his prodigies.
Just as well we have what there is,but it could have been so much more.
Joe Boyd was either very talented or lucky with his prodigies.
Posted on: 08 August 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Yes it is sad - unfulfilled in many ways, but made more great records and wrote more great songs than most.
I'd say her solo album Sandy along with Shirley Collins trio of masterpieces stand out for me as the greatest folk albums ever made - probably should add Planxty's Cold Blow and ISB's 5000 Spirits to that list.
Joe Boyd was very talented IMHO.
I'd say her solo album Sandy along with Shirley Collins trio of masterpieces stand out for me as the greatest folk albums ever made - probably should add Planxty's Cold Blow and ISB's 5000 Spirits to that list.
Joe Boyd was very talented IMHO.
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by Guido Fawkes
I did find it interesting Joe Boyd was annoyed that Sandy didn't want to go to America; Sandy didn't like flying and her husband Trevor Lucas couldn't be trusted. I think Joe should have understood that Sandy didn't need to go to America.
His views on Judy Dyble were slightly off the mark; she wasn't Sandy, but she made some great records too. I wonder if Sandy had stayed with the Strawbs ........
Nonetheless, it still admire Mr Boyd for his ability to spot a great band. Even talented guys get one or two things wrong ...
His views on Judy Dyble were slightly off the mark; she wasn't Sandy, but she made some great records too. I wonder if Sandy had stayed with the Strawbs ........
Nonetheless, it still admire Mr Boyd for his ability to spot a great band. Even talented guys get one or two things wrong ...
Posted on: 23 September 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Sandy's box set has been delayed - it was scheduled for release on 4th October, but is now slated for early November - some times I wonder if there record companies no where the time goes.
Posted on: 23 September 2010 by Folkman
That cannot be right , it should have been Late November !
Posted on: 10 October 2010 by Folkman
A further delay with the box set , now saying 15th November.
Posted on: 10 October 2010 by Guido Fawkes
Oh well good things come to those that wait (and wait and wait and .... )