How quiet is a mini mac?

Posted by: Occean on 01 June 2009

I am looking at getting rid of my Sonos in place of a PC/Mac.

The Sonos is great, but I have found 90% of the time I am using it via my PC...so I may as well ditch the Sonos and use a PC/Mac.

I know I can easily build a quiet PC, but I am very tempted by a mini mac as it seem to fit the bill nicely, but I am curious how quiet are they?
Posted on: 05 June 2009 by pcstockton
Not my screen shot...

Dont know them.... but might have to find out!

You would find some Meshuggah CDs in my world though... and a lot of Zorn releases are pretty tough.
Posted on: 05 June 2009 by winkyincanada
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Originally posted by pcstockton:
Winky,

I dont have any missing art. It is all right there in the folders iTunes scans to find the music?

Don't most people out there have a jpg in their album folders?

It seems strange that iTunes is the only player that doesn't make use of the art you ALREADY have. Why download other art when you have perfect art right next to the other files iTunes is "scanning".

Especially frsutrating when I have gone through the effort of scanning covers that are different than what a generic online search would find, DCC, MFSL, alternative covers etc...

But thanks for the help, I will see what I can find out about using my own art.

-Patrick


OK, "find missing art" wasn't what you wanted. I understand. You want to get iTunes to associate the jpegs you have (and are already in the album files) with the albums so it displays your chosen picture. You could perhaps get itunes to find the art off the internet (right or wrong) and then save your file over the top to replace the iTunes automatic art file (i.e. save it with the same file name); but that would require you to do this manually for each album (yikes).

I agree that it seems strange the iTunes doesn't just look in your album folder, see the jpeg (no matter what it is called or from where it came) and use that. Maybe there is a flag in the metadata of each track that indicates whether iTunes thinks art has been found (or not) and should therefore look for it in the album folder (or not). Switching such a flag might get iTunes to behave. Don't know. I might have a bit a of a play around and see if I can come up with a better suggestion.

AlbumArt_{55E47C51-1646-4D06-BE16-89EADC2A8CA7}_Large

This is a typical filename that iTunes uses for Album art. Maybe the format needs to be the same?
Posted on: 05 June 2009 by garyi
The price of that amarra software is amazing. I guess the guy is relying on a coupl dof chumps instead of lots of people.

Look at the website. Its terrible.

There is other software available. HEAR for mac looks promising if digitial correction is your bag.
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by james n
DHT - have you tried it yet. I'm tempted to give it a try and see what it does.

James
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by ferenc
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Originally posted by james n:
DHT - have you tried it yet. I'm tempted to give it a try and see what it does.

James


I tried and I am having it on my Macbook. Works quite well, sounds good. It will not convert a Konnekt/Macbook to an HDX, but sounds very promising and very practical if you have different sample rate tracks in your iTunes library as I have. It does not play Apple Lossless, only AIFF and WAV, but when you try to play an ALE file switch back to the Core Audio/iTunes stack seamlessly and iTunes will play the files. It has a very useful feature: a very, very high quality practically transparent EQ. Using a very mild EQ can help to deal with some of the room problems, not all and not in all cases, but in special cases can be useful.
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by DHT
James ,Feranc, a friend has the free demo version,it did sound good and the auto changing of sample rates works extremely well, the free version cuts out after thirty seconds which obviously isn't ideal, I think I will become an 'early adoptor' I believe there is a $500 discount?
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by garyi
Chump. Simple as that mate.
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by pcstockton
What is this auto sample rate changes you speak of? Isn't it simply outputting whatever the file is?
Dont they all?
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by james n
Audio Midi (on the Mac) sets the ouput rate and will up or down sample depending on what its set to and the incoming data rate. If i want to play a 24/96 file then i need to set Audio midi and restart iTunes - One of Amara's features is that it'll auto sample rate switch.

James
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by QTT
Actually you do not need to restart iTunes at all when you use Audio Midi to change the digital output. Maybe your MAC is old?
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by james n
I stand corrected then - Just had a look at computer audiophile and it seems iTunes 8 on lets you do this.
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by james n
It works Cool
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by james n
Hmm - it works as in the output sample rate changes and can be done on the fly but i'm not sure if iTunes is locking onto the original sample rate set in Audiomidi when iTunes is started ?
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by pcstockton
I cant use iTunes.

I have plenty of 24/96, and Im not going to change settings every time I want to hear one.

Foobar takes care of that for you, no $1500 software required.
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by james n
Its a couple of taps from my iPod touch via VNC to change settings and restart iTunes - 15secs at most but again a pain for individual tracks. Hopefully a feature that iTunes will build in later on ?
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by QTT
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Originally posted by james n:
Hmm - it works as in the output sample rate changes and can be done on the fly but i'm not sure if iTunes is locking onto the original sample rate set in Audiomidi when iTunes is started ?

Incorrect. I am sure of that.
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by james n
I've always relied on the Benchmark setup

For iTunes versions later then 7, iTunes must be launched after the sample rate is set in AudioMIDI. Any sample rate changes made in AudioMIDI while iTunes is open will not change the sample rate of iTunes until iTunes is re-launched. Consequently, it will cause CoreAudio to sample-rate convert the audio coming from iTunes. The result of CoreAudio sample-rate conversion is significant distortion.

Care to point me in the direction of the something different ?
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by QTT
For OSX users running iTunes 7.0 or higher, you'll need to close iTunes and open the AudioMIDI utility, then set the sample rate to what you require for the files you wish to play. Then relaunch iTunes. Otherwise, if AudioMIDI is set to 96kHz and you play a 44.1kHz file, iTunes will upsample from 44.1 to 96kHz, with audible degradation. If you are playing a mixed program and want to change the sample rate during the program, you can do so in AudioMIDI, Rankin says, and iTunes "will follow."

"Therefore, say, if you are playing Red Book stuff but then want to play high-rez material, keep iTunes and AudiMIDI [open] and change the rate according to the needs of the track ." Rankin also observed that iTunes 7.5 works best for users of Leopard, but that if you have not upgraded the OS, 7.5 won't work as well as your existing version.
Posted on: 06 June 2009 by QTT
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Originally posted by QTT:
For OSX users running iTunes 7.0 or higher, you'll need to close iTunes and open the AudioMIDI utility, then set the sample rate to what you require for the files you wish to play. Then relaunch iTunes. Otherwise, if AudioMIDI is set to 96kHz and you play a 44.1kHz file, iTunes will upsample from 44.1 to 96kHz, with audible degradation. If you are playing a mixed program and want to change the sample rate during the program, you can do so in AudioMIDI, Rankin says, and iTunes "will follow."

"Therefore, say, if you are playing Red Book stuff but then want to play high-rez material, keep iTunes and AudiMIDI [open] and change the rate according to the needs of the track ." Rankin also observed that iTunes 7.5 works best for users of Leopard, but that if you have not upgraded the OS, 7.5 won't work as well as your existing version.

Forgot to say that I cut & paste the above from a Stereophile article.
Posted on: 07 June 2009 by james n
Cheers Cool
Posted on: 07 June 2009 by Occean
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Originally posted by DHT:
The demo is free!


cheers pcstockon, it work but I'm not a huge fan on the http browsers, I'll give it a good go though.

I think I am pretty set on a Sneaky DS as I can get one at an ok price at the mo'

Cheers

Eric
Posted on: 07 June 2009 by DHT
The Linn stramers always seem pretty expensive for what is inside them, what is there a small computer and dac?
Posted on: 07 June 2009 by Occean
quote:
Originally posted by DHT:
The Linn stramers always seem pretty expensive for what is inside them, what is there a small computer and dac?


Plus quality and ease of use. No faffing about with settings and a very useable iphone remote.

A sneaky will make the perfect, affordable transport for me. I think Winker
Posted on: 07 June 2009 by DHT
Does it do anything that a Mac can't , the itouch makes a great remote!
Posted on: 07 June 2009 by Occean
Play flac and switch between high and low rez audio without user intervention.

Also it does not require an additional device such as an maudio transit, or my choice an emu 0404 USB to get the best out of it.

I currently have a mac setup with my supernait.