HDX WAV Rip Tags, or at least editing them

Posted by: 2roomsor1 on 16 December 2010

Hi

hope someone can help, i have a few cd's that amg or free bd do not pick up on my hdx, but itunes does pick.

question is, can i rip on my hdx, transfer to a external store, use software to assign id info, then transfer back to internal store.

two other points, 1. my hdx rips mp3 and wav (use mp3s for my itunes) 2. running on a mac would be great

thanks all
Posted on: 20 December 2010 by 2roomsor1
Anybody?

I have resulted to ripping on itunes in wave form and storing them on a share, the results are far from perfect. but this is just background christmas music, the plan was to rip then transfer off the hdx to a nas.

even with the i tunes rip, the names do not quite take, especially on compilations, now the ultimate christmas album appears 60 times.... 1 album entry for each track, when i mod the info in itunes the hdx does not see the changes (even after refresh)

the hdx is working fine, it just does not like external ripped stuff from my mac

the alums i have downloaded from naim label work fine and can be seen where you would expect them to be.


thanks
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by John Bailey
quote:
Originally posted by spw:

two other points, 1. my hdx rips mp3 and wav (use mp3s for my itunes)


How so?

One of the reasons I didn't go down the Naim ripper route was because I couldn't see how it could be made to make one rip and store it in several formats. Ripping is tedious so I'm only going to do it once.

I use dBPoweramp which stores a WAV, FLAC and MP3 copy simultaneously.
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by Tog
Vortexbox will automatically rip to flac/alac/(mp3) then use its DAAP server to supply iTunes with either flac or alac.
- and can be hacked very simply by some small changes to the ripper config file to rip exact cd copies into wav - although this obviously eats up drive space and is relatively pointless for all but the obsessives.

Tag management is kept simple although there are third party editors.

Eh voila -

Tog
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by garyi
Didn't know hdx ripped to mp3?

As for tagging a wav, I don't think it can be done.
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by John Bailey
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Didn't know hdx ripped to mp3?

As for tagging a wav, I don't think it can be done.


Looks like another crippleware feature of the HDX.

dBpoweramp does tag the WAV files with all the basics. My Sonos picks all that up perfectly.

I save a FLAC copy as well as this will preserve all the tag information should I need it in the future.

It would seem that not all rippers can encode the tags to WAV and not all aggregators can pick the tags up. But Sonos does very well here.
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by Tog
John - why do you need wav so badly?

Tog
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by John Bailey
quote:
Originally posted by Tog:
John - why do you need wav so badly?

Tog


Sounds better on the Sonos.

Something like a Linn DS or Naim NDX might show less difference but on the Sonos it was quite clear.
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by rhr
Hopefully Naim will listen to users comments and include the ability to rip to other formats in future updates of the software on the HDX.

It would be good if they could enable storage of downloaded Hi-res tracks on the Hard Drive, so they will be backed up. And access to the vtuner from the front panel, not only via Songbook.

HDX is a brilliant machine and hopefully software updates will see it improve even more.
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by David Dever
quote:
Originally posted by John Bailey:
quote:
Originally posted by Tog:
John - why do you need wav so badly?

Tog


Sounds better on the Sonos.

Something like a Linn DS or Naim NDX might show less difference but on the Sonos it was quite clear.

UnitiServe works very well with Sonos in this respect - if you enable the Rhapsody UPnP Servers option, you'll find this to be pretty seamless in operation.
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by John Bailey
Sorry David. I'm confused. Works seamlessly in what respect. Rhapsody option selected on what?

Presumably selected on the Sonos so that it can see the files served up by the Unitiserve?

Can the Unitiserve be configured to rip to multiple formats such as MP3 and Flac?
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by 2roomsor1
my hdx was configured by dealer to rip doth 192kbs mp3 for my itunes library and wav, i chose the 192kbs as 256 or 320 seemed a bit much for a ipod everywhere else i use wav.

the wav tags are fine on stuff that the hdx creates, its just finding a program to tag stuff ripped elsewhere. and retag hdx rips that the data has not been picked up on amg.

thanks all
Posted on: 26 December 2010 by Klout10
quote:
Originally posted by spw:
my hdx was configured by dealer to rip doth 192kbs mp3 for my itunes library and wav


Are you saying that your HDX is able to rip to MP3?? I didn't know that was possible...Eek

Regards,
Michel
Posted on: 27 December 2010 by David Dever
quote:
Works seamlessly in what respect. Rhapsody option selected on what?

Presumably selected on the Sonos so that it can see the files served up by the Unitiserve?

You can change this within the Sonos Controller (PC or Mac) software in Preferences: click the Advanced Options button. Then check the Show music from Rhapsody UPnP servers checkbox and click Done.
Posted on: 31 December 2010 by John Bailey
David,

Using the 'Serve with Sonos - Would setting this preference be mirrored on the iPad controller app? Does the artwork come across to the Sonos? Would I be able to use the Sonos to search the extended database - say performer, conductor etc?

Regards,

John.
Posted on: 31 December 2010 by David Dever
I do not own a Sonos, so cannot give you a meaningful answer.
Posted on: 31 December 2010 by John Bailey
Many thanks for that honest answer!

Seems that the Naim approach of integrating the metadata with a custom database (i.e. Extended Music) is the only meaningful way of cataloging a collection that spans not only pop but also jazz and classical.

Sonos with dbpoweramp has been excellent but I now see some of it's limitations in respect of limited metadata fields and retrieval.