The BBC Scottish and others play Sibelius

Posted by: Tam on 03 September 2006

The more eagle-eyed readers may recall that in my Edinburgh thread I mentioned a stunning concert I attended last Sunday. The icing on the cake following Mackerras in Beethoven 8 and an extraordinary piece of Messiaen was to pick up the last remaining flyer in the Usher Hall (or, upstairs, at least) for the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra's autumn season, the star attraction of which is a Sibelius cycle (and now that my tickets are safely booked, I thought I'd give it a plug). Indeed, it was odd as only a few days earlier I was waxing lyrical about this year's concert series which featured just a single work in each concert (and made up the Bruckner and Beethoven cycles, and the middle concerts) and that next year wouldn't it be interesting to have Sibelius and Dvorak cycles.

Sadly, they are only doing it in Glasgow (with the first concert repeated in Aberdeen and the second in Birmingham - which features Kullervo and the 3rd). But it will be nice to see and hear the new concert hall, and given the 7:30 start it should be possible to make it over. They take place every Thursday, from the 9th onward) in November and full details can be found here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/musicscotland/bbcsso/conc.../index.shtml?2006/11

There was (on the flyer, at any rate) a discount price for the series with prices from 73 down to I think around 35 for the 4 concert series plus the Sunday talk/performance of the second. For some reason this option didn't seem to be available if booking on line, but I would imagine you can phone the box office for it.

For those who can't make it, I imagine they will broadcast it on Radio 3.

Partly in preparation, partly because I've just been waiting for an excuse, I have taken the opportunity to add a few more Sibelius cycles to my collection. Sakari Oramo's wonderful festival appearance make me finally get round to ordering his with the CBSO (along with fond memories of hearing them do the 7th). I have also grabbed the earlier Davis/LSO cycle (as it was madly cheap on Amazon) and, as I know Fredrik is very keen on it, the Barbirolli. So, as well as reporting back on the concerts, I shall, when they arrive, use this thread to survey them.


regards, Tam
Posted on: 02 March 2007 by Basil
Easy on the Vodka Fredders!

Have fun!
Posted on: 05 March 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,

Due to failures in the system of rail transport I spent almost longer sitting on the platform of Gloucester station on Saturday than in the air between Malaga and Bristol! Totally rail time was from 13.44 till 17.16 - Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Shrub Hill - with a rather long break at Gloucester to take the stale ham sandwiches and sweet tea, which cost as much as a three course meal in Sevilla earlier in the week!

Therefore I was frustrated, kn******d, and had a cracking head ache. The party proceeded no further than one bottle of Chilean plonk, before I headed home...

But the good news is that I have now unearthed the old Kajanus recording of Tapiola [hidden in one of five boxes of CDs packed up for my recent move across the river in Worcester], and am making a detailed study of it as a performance for the first time ever, though I have listen to it many times over the last ten years in the way I listen at concerts! I quite agreed that the very start is swift, even just slightly unruly in certain details, but this does not last long. I want to listen once more before really trying to give a hint of the way the performance goes. In the absense of another performance to put on you will have to take it as my view in the absolute, rather than in the comparative.

Later, my dear friend! ATB from Fredrik
Posted on: 05 March 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,

I have set about the listening, unfortunately without the score, which languishes in a box like so much else just now!

I quite agree with you that the very opening is certainly not as slow as it might be, and the poor timpanist really seems to miss the rhythm that the strings certainly have mastered, but everything really finds its footing at the introduction of the new theme in the flutes just after 2 minutes 50 seconds [in this performance] from where the tension builds to becoming very close to unbearable. In fact the tempo sounds rather measured - even monumentally slow - especially as the storm is broached. The tension is really only released in the very last eight bars or so, and one can see the slightly breezy opening and subsequently huge depiction of the darkness and force of nature, so often found in Sibelius, wonderfully realised in this reading as indicating, whatever short term incident may pass in the music, as one huge and totally involving arch, only settling down into our mortal and mundane surrounds again in the diffusion of tension at the very end! No wonder then, that I had never even considered the reading in a technical way, given its all consuming power. Details are rightly placed as "noted" but the overal flow and sweep of it is far more important.

Though it might well be programatic music, I do not know the programme as such, and have always taken the music as something akin to The Great Fugue of Beethoven in its dark, brooding power, especially in light of the fact that I always have prefered the Beethoven on a String Orchestra to the authentic version written [somewhat improbably I reckon!] for String Quartet.

Perhaps Kajanus' vision is unique by now, in that I cannot imagine any of the present day Sibelians [possibly Bernstein might have done it this well] bringing out with such force of spirit the sheer sweep and unity of the music. Like some great performances, it has the forward momentum of flowing red hot larva. Help anyone, who gets in front of it!

I also have Beecham's recording and one other whom I cannot remember who is playing, but neither of these came close to this for sheer intensity. Beecham sounds quite "proper" in comparison as I remember it!

Once again I have totally failed to put into words the effect music has on me - a sort of hypnotism, which a great reading of great music can achieve without any comprehension of the means [either in the composition or the methods employed in the reading to underscore the composition], or real technical analysis of any sort. All I can say is that I find this is a very real extension of the spirit of the music into an audible form for me.

If you ever see Kajanus' reading of the Third Symphony please do get it. It has just as much illumination in it!

All I have done is show my child-like enthusiasm again, so apologies for that! It is one of the pieces I love very much, and especially in this reading.

Kindest regards from Fredrik. [Obviously not a music critic, Smiley]!
Posted on: 06 March 2007 by Basil
Thank you Fredrik, an interesting read even if I don’t agree with you!

The tone poem Tapiola was inspired by the legends and atmosphere of the great Finnish forests.

"In Pohjola there are thick, dark forests
that dream wild dreams, forever secret.
Tapio's* eerie dwellings are there
and half-glimpsed spirits, and the voices of twilight."

*Tapio - the God of the Forest.

After listening to the Radio 3 “discovering music” program I find myself in complete agreement with Stephen Johnson’s assessment of the work. (I recorded the program and would be happy to send you a copy) .

Tapiola, played well should leave you with a single word at the front of your mind, that word is “ominous”

I see Tapiola as the musical equivalent of setting something fragile and vulnerable against something immense and immovable, such as the state and the individual, humanity and the universe etc.

And in those terms, Karajan does the best job I’ve heard to date.

The Kajanus recording just seems to me to miss the point of the work by a large margin, as does the Beecham one, (which I have) but there is a good reason why the Beecham performance is so poor. I’ve had the record years but have only just noticed the small print on the back of the cover.

“Side 2 B2 of this record had not been approved by Sir Thomas Beecham at the time of his death. In view of the great historical value of Sir Thomas’s recordings, we are grateful to Lady Beecham for permission to publish it.”

I can only assume Lady Beecham hadn’t heard the recording, or she had no idea what Sibelius had in mind with Tapiola.

It is dire, one example springs to mind. The final, rock like “amen” is played as if it were Beethoven not Sibelius. It totally ruins the work! I’m sure Beecham spins in his grave every time it is played!

Davis and Gibson are OK, but you do need to hear Karajan conduct Tapiola. Either the 64, which Tam enjoyed or my current top choice the EMI 77 version. Another bonus with the EMI CD, a magnificent En Saga, spectacular violins, this is Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic at their very, very best!
Posted on: 06 March 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear Basil,

It's fantastic that we both love this music, even it we have different favourite performances!

Lovely little digresion. Thanks from fredrik!!
Posted on: 16 March 2007 by Basil
Music Matters
Finland Special
Saturday 17 March 2007 12:15-13:00 (Radio 3)

Tom Service takes a musical journey through Finland and discovers the state of Finnish classical music as the country celebrates not only its 90th year of independence but also marks the 50th anniversary of Sibelius's death.

From discussing Sibelius's legacy at Ainola to attending the Musica Nova Helsinki new music festival, Tom finds out what drives Finland's classical music scene and what we can learn from its impressive music education system.

He speaks to composer Magnus Lindberg, conductor Suzanna Malkki and managing director of the Association of Finnish Music Schools Timo Klemettinen as well as other prominent Finns on the front line of Finnish music making.
Posted on: 16 March 2007 by Tam
Thanks for the heads up Basil, I hadn't noticed that one (haven't been reading the schedules all that hawkishly of late).

Nice to read your conflicting views on Kajanus - may have to try and hear for myself (perhaps after I've worked through the BIS box and the earlier Davis survey......)

regards, Tam
Posted on: 07 April 2007 by Basil
Hi Tam,

I bought the 64 Karajan Sibelius CD, but thanks for the offer of the loan.

For what it's worth, having compared them back to back, the 79' EMI recording is better by quite a margin. A must have disc!
Posted on: 07 April 2007 by Tam
Basil,

Sorry I hadn't got it posted off. Will e-mail you soon (things have been rather mad here lately).

regards, Tam
Posted on: 07 April 2007 by Basil
Hi Tam,

Don't worry, things have been pretty chaotic here as well!

Settling down a little, chance to relax over the bank hols! But still lots to do!
Posted on: 11 April 2007 by KenM
Tam,

When can we have your views on the Davis/LSO set on RCA? I've just started to listen to it. My first impression is that it is more Nordic chill than Karajan, Ashkenazy or Jansons. In the main, I'm very impressed, but I'm no expert on Sibelius and I would be interested to hear your opinions.

Regards, Ken
Posted on: 11 April 2007 by Tam
I've got 4 cycles left to post on. At the moment I'm working on Vanska's and the Davis/RCA is up next after that. So, with any luck, no too long (though much of the listening I've done lately for posts has actually been for a Mahler thread that's in the works).

I've also got a post to type up about Jansons' Oslo recordings, which I'll post shortly.


regards, Tam
Posted on: 11 April 2007 by Tam


As an interlude between cycles, time to visit this rather nice disc (or rather two disc set) from Mariss Jansons and the Oslo Philharmonic of symphonies 2, 3 & 5 (and various fillers).

Jansons gives the second a gentle and lyrical opening but with wonderful pulsing undercurrents on on the strings. He brings a remarkably fresh texture to this familiar Sibelius work. He also brings a magnificent (if not quite Bernsteinian, though with none his problems) chill, to both the wind and especially the strings. After the opening this is a fairly brisk reading, thought with no lack of sweep. The andante is marked by more fine playing (especially the pizzicato , though the dynamic range that bothered Ken on the other thread might well be an issue here - as the contrasts are, to say the least extreme. There is real bite and drive to the big chords, and yet this is tempered by some wonderful soft lyricism in the quieter moments. But at times I think I would prefer things just a little slower, the music savoured that bit more. However the slower pace towards the close of the movement is nigh on perfect and the final bars are played with real mastery. In the third movement Jansons' tendency towards the brisk is more appropriate. As in the first movement there are some very well judged contrasts between fast and slow and he builds well leading into the finale. Which is characterised by a wonderful sweep and more fine playing (notably this time from the brass). The passages that call to mind (for me, at least) Wagner's forest murmurs are wonderful. He again gets a nice chill to the orchestral sound (though by no means the coldest on disc) and some exceptional string playing. There is a flow and a grandeur to the movement - it feels just right, right up to the triumphant close. A recording well worth hearing. The rest of the disc is filled with The Swan of Tuonela, Valse Triste and the Andante festivo. All of which are nice enough, though there is nothing especially remarkable.

Disc two beings with the 3rd symphony, and a very quick opening to the work. The main theme judders along nicely (as it should). Once again the playing is superb and once again the dynamic range is very wide. However, unlike for most of the second, I find the contrasts in tempi a little two extreme. But there is some especially nice wind playing, and he maintains a great pulse beneath the faster moments, it's when the pace slackens that he doesn't entirely convince me. The tempo (still fairly brisk) is much better judged in the middle movement. But while it is nice enough, I can't help feeling there is something missing. Not, though, in the excellent transition into the finale, which is taken very quickly, however he brings a nice lightness of touch. The main theme is played magnificently and Jansons builds well to a great finish.

Last, but certainly not least, comes the 5th. Right from the opening chords this feels rather special - there is both a chill and a majesty. Again the playing is excellent (as if I really need to repeat that again - indeed, this may be first encounter with the orchestra, I'll have to check, certainly I shall be listening out for them in the future). The pace is judged just right, neither too quick or too slow as has been the the case at times in some of the other works. There's something very fresh about these readings (typified here), I think I especially like the very clipped nature of his phrasing, which I find very refreshing. There is a wonderful depth to the playing, particularly in the climaxes (though, if I am splitting hairs they are perhaps a touch quick for me at times). He gets a very special texture - feeling both warm and cold at same time. There is a wonderful momentum and sweep to the close. The andante is delicately played, marred only by a tendency to rush slightly in the quicker passages, but Jansons manages the transition into the finale perfectly. As in the first movement the tempo is nicely judged. There is plenty of sweep and weight here too. He plays through magnificently (holding his pauses well) to a thrilling close.

All in all, a set well worth hearing (and available pretty cheaply, representing good value for money). The readings of 2 and 5 are very fine indeed, and where they on disc on the their own, it would be a real stunner. The 3rd is not quite so successful (though by no means a dud). It certainly makes me want to hear more of Jansons in Sibelius and makes me look forward all the more eagerly to his visit to Edinburgh this summer with the Bavarian RSO when they will be playing second. Can't wait.

Which makes it all the more shameful that this appears to have been deleted - however there seem to be plenty of copies knocking around on the amazon market place.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00006YX73/ref...d=1176332316&sr=1-12

regards, Tam
Posted on: 11 April 2007 by Basil
quote:
It certainly makes me want to hear more of Jansons in Sibelius and makes me look forward all the more eagerly to his visit to Edinburgh this summer with the Bavarian RSO when they will be playing second. Can't wait.


Radio 3 played a couple of pieces by Jansons and the Bavarian RSO this afternoon, Verdi's Requiem and the Sibelius second symphony. Both were excellent, so I'd book those tickets ASAP!
Posted on: 11 April 2007 by Tam
The tickets are already booked.

Wish I'd spotted that broadcast (sadly I can't normally listen in the afternoon, but could have set a tape).

regards, Tam
Posted on: 01 May 2007 by Tam


I know I said Vanska was up next (and he is, and still in progress). Then it's Davis (who has grown a little more ambitious as I have folded in his Boston cycle and will probably take on all 2 and a half at once).

This is Jansons' second recording of the work (see above for the first). His success with on the Concertgebouw's own label has thus far been a little a little mixed in my experience. His Heldenleben was fine enough, though didn't altogether push my buttons; the disc of Beethoven and Brahms' second symphonies was an odd pairing, the latter of which didn't quite come off. The Mahler 6, though fine enough, paled next to his recent effort for LSO Live.

So how fares the Sibelius? The first movement opens with a middling tempo (perhaps a little on the slow side). The timings, for what it may be worth, are virtually identical to his earlier reading. A bigger difference is to be found in the dynamic range, where the contrasts between loud and quiet are not nearly so severe. However, the orchestra plays splendidly and Jansons creates some wonderful textures. Unfortunately, he does slightly spoil some of the big climaxes by rushing them a little. In the second movement the playing is again excellent, especially from the winds. What is particularly impressive is the clarity with which he brings out the various musical lines. A rather jumpy reading, in a good way, and although not brisk, a long way from Bernstein too. The movement's climax is very nice. The third movement opens briskly. The playing is full of excitement, and it is a credit to the players that they do not slip. He produces some extreme, but well judged, contrasts in tempo and magnificently builds and transitions into the finale. Where the brass playing is especially fine. There is also a nice sweep to his reading. Unfortunately it does drag slightly in places. But he does build a wonderful momentum for the final few minutes to a magnificent close. Throughout the reading there is a wonderfully dark feeling and a great clarity. He produces only a moderate chill, rather than the frozen temperatures of Bernstein. The recording is very well balanced and Jansons finds some great textures (and ones that feel new, or at any rate, fresh, to me). Indeed, this typifies one of the reasons the RCO label has always excited me, namely this orchestra's delicious and unique texture. The only problem is, as with his Mahler, I can't help feeling that conductor and orchestra are not yet quite so perfectly in sync with each other as he was with the Oslo Philharmonic. Doubtless that will come in time.

At the time of the disc's release I held off after CD Review suggested the fact the performances it is taken from were spread out had led to inconsistency. Listening, I don't think this is fair. One final quibble: for a single, mid-priced disc, one work that lasts just three quarters of an hour is poor value.


regards, Tam


p.s. Basil, I have been meaning to reply and with any luck will do so in the next couple of days.
Posted on: 03 May 2007 by KenM
Tam,

I'm surprised that you don't seem to have listened to the Oslo Philharmonic much. Have I misunderstood you? Their Tchaikovsky cycle is superb and more consistent than their competitors. Pletnev and Gergiev have made some excellent recordings of these works but not (I think) a complete cycle. Or are you not a Tchaik fan?

This thread continues to fascinate me. Thanks and regards,

Ken
Posted on: 03 May 2007 by Tam
quote:
Originally posted by KenM:
I'm surprised that you don't seem to have listened to the Oslo Philharmonic much. Have I misunderstood you?


No, you haven't. And given the quality of the recordings I've been picking up lately, it rather surprises me too. Certainly I'll be making the effort to hear more of them.

The Tchaik box is on my mental list of things I want to get and has been for a little while now. I've only come to the composer comparatively recently. My first foray was the Bernstein/New York cycle which didn't entirely grab me (where I think the fault lay with the conductor). Recordings I have picked up since (not least the Furtwangler Pathetique and Mravinsky's Lenningrad recordings) have removed any lingering doubts.

Glad you're enjoying the thread.


regards, Tam
Posted on: 29 May 2007 by Tam
Just posting to keep this open. I will post on Vanska as soon as I get round to typing it up (which, with any luck will be tomorrow).

regards, Tam
Posted on: 02 June 2007 by KenM
Tam,
If you can, then listen to Janssons/Oslo PO with Sibelius' 1st Symphony. He takes what is often described as merely a Tchaikovsy derivative and turns it somehow into a magnificent whole symphony, quite unique. I will certainly buy Janssons' Oslo discs as and when I encounter them.
For complete cycles, I'm tending to favour Ashkenazy. His Philharmonia 5-CD cycle on Decca was only £15.95 on Europadisc last month. I'm really enjoying working my way through. I've heard several individually though not before as a complete set.
Ashkenazy's Sibelius 2, recorded live with the Boston SO is pretty special, but I don't think they did a complete cycle.
Keep up the excellent work.
Ken
Posted on: 02 June 2007 by Tam
Thanks Ken. I just finished typing Vanska this afternoon, so once I've had a chance to reread it I'll post it.

I spotted the Ashkenazy the other day and was a little tempted so given your comments I may give it a go.

I didn't Know Jansons had done the first but everything else he's done with the Oslo Phil that I've heard has been very fine so I may have to pick it up. [edit] And after wrestling with Amazon's search facility I have found it. It appears to have been deleted and the marketplace sellers seem to want £25 for it. And, for a single disc, I'm really not prepared to pay that much. Ah well....

regards, Tam
Posted on: 02 June 2007 by Tam


This is by far the biggest survey under discussion here (though, in truth, the portion I will discuss is of about the same size as most of the other sets mentioned). Osmo Vanska's readings with his Lahti Symphony Orchestra come on the BIS label and while they can be had as a cycle, or separately, they are now available in a 15 disc box titled The Essential Sibelius with much else besides. Though, perhaps slightly annoyingly, this is by no means the complete Vanska (he has recorded two versions of both the 5th Symphony and the Violin concerto, the alternates are both absent here, as are a number of other works). However, we do get the seven symphonies and Kullervo (and a few other things which I won't really cover). The non-Vanska recordings I won't really address either (mainly because they aren't the symphonies or works I know well enough).

To begin at the beginning (even if it has to wait until disc 6), this is the first set thus far to contain Sibelius's first symphonic effort: the Kullervo Symphony (well, excluding the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra concert performances). It's a shame, as it's a wonderful piece: how fascinating to have heard Bernstein, Barbirolli or Oramo attempt it... (I suppose we may still hear the latter). And, in many ways, this is the highlight of the set. It feels so very right from the opening bars onwards, which are chilling rather than frozen and so beautifully played it whisks me straight back to the concert hall, the bass and wind playing is especially fine. As there was then, Vanksa gives a significant dynamic range (and choosing a volume that allows the quietest moments to be audible without infuriating the neighbours is not altogether simple). But, for this work at least, that is largely forgivable. The detail of the textures is very good as is the way he seems to layer the orchestra. The main theme emerges only subtly, but its emergence at the close of the first movement is wonderfully majestic. The beautiful slow movement is, if anything, more captivating both in terms of the drama he brings and the quality of the orchestral playing. Vanska highlights the icy tones underneath throughout and there is a real power to some of the big chords, and a nice contrast between these and the softer moments. The sleigh bells provide a vivid opening to the third movement and the choir, when they enter, are every bit as fine as they were in the concert hall (these are the same Helsinki University Chorus we had in Glasgow). That said the balance is not quite perfect and they are a little more distant than I would prefer. Kullervo and his Sister are okay, though the latter is not quite so scathing as I would like in her rejections of him (she improves as the movement progresses). But, to be honest, they are rather upstaged by conductor, orchestra and choir (but I think this is one of those works where that is okay). But the stars here are the choir, who really should be heard by any who gets the chance: their precision and control are wonderful - no more so than at the movements turning point when Kullervo beds his sister (as they do in these sorts of folk myths). This, followed by the orchestra's raw power, that of Kullervo's reaction and his sister's chilling response is really quite special. Vanska displays a real lightness of touch in the fourth movement. He judges the textures well - the rumbling drums in the background, for example. But Kullervo goes to war with gusto, the percussion playing throughout is pretty special. The choir open the finale with the incredible softness of which they are capable. Both choir and orchestra are fine thoughout and quite staggering in the final moments. However, perhaps inevitably, it is not such a perfect experience as in the concert hall. How could it be? Either way, this is a very fine disc, and an excellent introduction to the work (and one that I believe is available separately). Looking back, I realise I haven't mentioned tempi at all. I suppose that's because they all just feel right. At 80 minutes this work is quite a bit slower than Davis's more recent LSO Live effort (which I find a trifle rushed) and shorter than his earlier account. In other words, it feels just right to me.

The next disc (actually disc 1 in the box) contains the pairing of the first and fourth symphonies, and after Kullervo, it seemed this might be the cycle to beat. The first symphony is given a wonderfully soft opening. There is beautiful wind playing but the entry of the strings, one of my favourite moments in all Sibelius's writing, is not as electric as some. This is a frantic reading, but Vanska brings out a lot in the orchestration, there is a real menace bubbling beneath the surface throughout and a fierce edge to the strings. The andante is less successful. Vanska didn't really allow the music to breath sufficiently in the first movement and the flaw is much more critical here. On the other hand, the approach is well suited to the scherzo: briskly played with a nice lightness of touch. The finale beings well. There is a chill to the strings and a nice sweep. Vanska gives a lively and energetic reading and brings out plenty of depth in the orchestration. He builds weight and a wonderful momentum towards the close and, unlike Bernstein, does not allow it to flag. Nice enough, and certainly not without its moments, but it fails to live up to the promise of Kullervo. The fourth is altogether more successful (indeed, arguably Vanska's extreme dynamic range comes into its own here). A dark, almost leaden (in a good way) opening. Slow, with a real sadness to the playing. Yet nicely lyrical too and Vanska shapes the themes beautifully. Indeed, he gives the work a character that calls to mind Mahler's 9th. The orchestra play superbly. The second movement is lighter and more charming in tone but there is still a weight to the strings and some of that frantic edge that was so strong in his reading of the first symphony. The largo is, once again, marked by lovely wind playing. Again, the tempo is slow and he retains the same dark tone. Vanska really brings out the recurring themes in a way that makes me think this is one of the most magical of Sibelius's movements. He leads into the finale more gently than I would have expected (though with a near-perfect transition) and steadfastly refuses to build up a momentum giving the work a very modern feel and fitting it much better with the first 3 movements than in some readings. But Vanska becomes frantic again towards the end and with a final note even more clipped than in it often is.

This is followed by a coupling of the second and third symphonies. The second begins delicately with a moderate tempo. The orchestral playing is of the same high standard as the rest of this set and they produce some wonderful tones. The pace quickens as the movement progresses, but he doesn't rush the big climaxes. The dynamic contrasts here are less severe than elsewhere in the cycle. Vanska builds a nice momentum to the movement's close. The andante is marked by some fine pizzacato and wonderfully melancholic wind playing. This is not a sunny reading by a long shot and there is also a return of the extreme dynamic contrasts that were absent in the first movement. It is lyrical but with less sweep and less momentum than Vanska is capable of. But his frantic nature does return, especially in the timpani, before reverting to tragic lyricism for a nice close. There is a brisk, dancing tempo to the vivacissimo. The same orchestral tone and lyricism but even more sweep. He stirs up a wonderful frenzy and then grandeur leading into the finale. Which has a sweep to rival the best (and lightness of touch and clarity too). There is some sunniness to the reading here, but plenty more darkness as well. He builds a powerful, deliberate momentum to a magnificent finish. After his concert performance, I had high hopes for the 3rd. But, inevitably, the electricity of that occasion isn't quite here. There is a nice sweep to the opening, but the music doesn't seem to dance the way it did in Glasgow (and not even really recall it). But in some respects (given some of the extremes there), in a CD this is not altogether that bad a thing. And as the movement progresses he soon falls into something of the swift delicacy I recall and he keeps a wonderful pulse ticking throughout. Again, though I hardly need repeat it, the wind playing is excellent. The lyricism of the 4th returns for a fine close. The deceptive tempo and apparent gentleness of the slow movement hides an uneasy feeling. Very beautifully played, just shy of hauntingly, though with particularly extreme dynamics. Vanska manages the transition into the finale okay and starts with slower tempo than I would have expected. He builds a fine momentum and there is certainly no shortage of power to the climaxes. But he loses something of the pulse midway through. To be sure he is better recorded than Davis on LSO Live, but with much less punch.

The 5th symphony begins majestically with nicely rounded phrasing. Vanska takes a relatively brisk tempo and the orchestra play wonderfully. Once again, though, dynamics are extreme. The reading, to me, lacks sweep and he doesn't build the momentum as well as he might. But the close of the first movement is particularly nice, and there is a great depth to the orchestral sound, the closing bars are especially sensuous. The andante that follows is not very slow, indeed, I wish he would hang about a little at times to savour some more of the beauty of the score, but the playing is nicely delicate. The transition into the finale is very poorly judged, so much so that it almost feels like an editing error. Vanska is very, very quick, but the orchestra keeps up fine. But that doesn't really matter, as the pace is too fast and something is lost. He does slow up a little as the main theme emerges but it lacks grandeur (this is more glaring given how fine the work's opening bars were in this regard). And, as a result, what should be a magnificent climax falls rather flat. All in all, a disappointing reading and probably my low-point of the cycle. Of the fillers, En Saga is very fine. Finlandia is nice but lacks the excitement of Oramo or Barbirolli. Pohjola's Daughter and Valse Triste are both good too, though the dynamic range in the latter is especially pronounced.

The sixth is better and opens at a middling tempo, beautifully (and very quietly) played and Vanska really brings out the different musical lines. The pace picks up (in line with what one might expect from this cycle), but I would prefer a little more lyricism. The winds are, once again, excellent and there is a nice chill to the strings. The transition to the second movement is poor (also something of a hallmark of this set - admittedly this is not strictly a transition in the way some of the movements are, but the way this ends, and the next beings, sit uneasily with each other). The second movement as a whole doesn't really work, as Vanska takes it somewhere between edgy and beauty. There is a nice spring to the vivace, but in some ways it is a little rushed. He brings the third movement to a fine, frenzied close, but it comes out of nowhere. The finale has some lovely tones but is again rushed. Dynamic contrasts are again extreme. The orchestra plays wonderfully throughout, bringing a real depth to the climaxes. And yet, that extra something is missing and he doesn't quite seem to judge the end right. The opening swagger of the seventh is particularly pronounced, especially the basses. Vanska takes the opening andante relatively slowly. Again the playing is fine and unlike so often elsewhere, he actual seems to savour the score and build themes. There is a wonderful flow (no Mahler 9 syndrome here). Unfortunately, the trombones are not prominently enough balanced and the quicker moments (as so often on this set) feel really rushed. But when he slows up there is a magnificent majesty. And so the work continues, lurching unsatisfyingly from slowly majestic to over-hurried. The feeling of journey's end at the work's close is very satisfying, and yet at the same time strangely uneasy since it doesn't feel like he's taken us that far and the closing bars seem to come out of nowhere. The disc rounds off with a very fine reading of Tapiola.

Of the other works, the violin concerto is okay, but didn't seem anything special to me. The Wood Nymph is very good but the Lemminkainen suite is rather patchy. The box also contains some of Jarvi's recordings, some of which are nice enough to have me wondering if I should add his set to this thread. But then Karelia was very poor, feeling almost comically jocular. And elsewhere in works such as The Tempest or Pelleas and Melisande he is just rather dull.

There are still five or so discs (including one or two smaller works from Vanksa and plenty of choral and chamber music), I have yet to explore on this set. However, it has been something of a disappointment. At its finest (Kullervo, and to a lesser extent the 4th), it is exceptional, but elsewhere it doesn't really live up to the promise of those moments. It makes me wonder if Vanska is one of those artists who just doesn't translate as well into the recording studio as opposed to the concert hall, certainly I will be listening with interest to their Prom (all Sibelius, including the 7th). However, even given its relative cheapness, I'm not really left feeling this set was great value for money. But the Kullervo (available separately) is well worth seeking out as, probably, is the 4th.

regards, Tam

p.s. Ken, I wish you hadn't mentioned Askenazy - he's now on his way (it was just over £10 on Amazon, and his Mozart concertos, which I've flirted with for some time were only £15).
Posted on: 03 June 2007 by KenM
Tam,

I agree that Vanska offer something special in Kullervo, and I prefer this version to those of Jarvi/Gothenburg, Davis/LSO (from the RCA cycle), or Panula/Icelandic SO. These are the ones I own, so I cannot express an opinion on others. Panula on Naxos is surprisingly good, however, and well worth a fiver.

In Finlandia, of the half-dozen or so which I own, Ashkenazy seems to capture the nature of the writing best. With excellent Decca sound, he just seems to have the edge on Jansons, Barbirolli and Vanska. His Karelia Suite is also outstanding but these are all very fine performances.

Luonnotar is a tone poem which grows on me. Phyllis Bryn-Julson (with the RNSO and Gibson) is more appealing to me than Soderstrom with Ashkenazy but Soile Isokoski with Segerstam and the Helsinki SO is just magical.

With EMI withdrawing Jansons' Sibelius symphonies, maybe we can hope for a bargain box reissue, as they have done with his Tchaikovsky cycle. I live in hope.

Regards,
Ken
Posted on: 03 June 2007 by KenM
Correction:
Jansons Tchaik cycle was on Chandos, not EMI. EMI's bargain of the moment seems to be the 5-CD box of Barbirolli's Elgar for £9 from HMV (on-line price). I get confused sometimes.
Ken
Posted on: 16 June 2007 by Tam
Dear Ken,

I finally picked up Jansons' Tchaik last weekend - and fantastic it has been too. Wonderfully played and recorded. Jansons really did have a special relationship with the Oslo Philharomic (and in some ways finer than what he has so far accomplished with the Concertgebouw). Certainly it's better than the NY Bernstein cycle that was my only source of the first 3 symphonies until now.

The Ashkenazy arrived this week, though I haven't got to the Sibelius yet, the Mozart concertos are very fine (though I still prefer Uchida here).

I agree that Soile Isokoski is wonderful, but I'm not sure I want the disc if Segerstam is conducting as I really couldn't stand his readings of 5, 6 and 7.

As to the Vanska box, last night I listened to the disc of string quartets (obviously not featuring Vanska) are very fine indeed, as are some of the songs.


regards, Tam