The Takacs Quartet Play Late Beethoven

Posted by: Todd A on 26 January 2005

Do I really need another complete Beethoven string quartet cycle? Of course. And since the Takacs Quartet’s recordings of the early and middle quartets have impressed me mightily – the combination of technically accomplished playing, tight-knit ensemble, rhythmically sure and punchy quick movements and measured slow movements, all delivered in excellent sound have won me over – I figured sampling their take on the late quartets couldn’t hurt. The first ten quartets pretty much move from strength to strength, and certainly not one of the works receives anything less than near top-flight performance, so my expectations for the late quartets were understandably very high. My expectations were not met.

The very strengths the Takacs displayed in the earlier quartets certainly benefit the late quartets, but they do not suffice by themselves, and the Takacs don’t seem to have any other tricks up their sleeves. Where is the searching playing in the slow movements? If ever there were pieces that demand players reach for something beyond what can be properly notated in a score, the late quartets are those pieces. The Takacs just never seem to show that intangible something that, say, the Vegh, the Budapest, the Talich, or the Hungarian Quartets do.

It’s not that the recordings are bad or even absolutely disappointing. The Op 95 fares quite well, but then it’s not quite as demanding as the later works. Here the Takacs’ collective strengths pay dividends. But the three quartet stretch from Op 127 to Op 131 sags. (I’m not including the Grosse Fuge, because no ensemble makes me like that piece.) In each case, the slow movements suffer, and even the faster ones do at times. Rather than delve into every detail, I’ll sum them up by describing the problems with 131. And nowhere are the problems more apparent than in the second Adagio section of the fourth movement. Where are the terse, or at least pointed five note cello figures that so effectively punctuate this section? Yes, they are played, but in a subdued, almost half-assed manner, the last one aside. I assume that was the intended effect. But then the answers from the first violin don’t really inspire one very much, either. The Presto, ah, now if the Takacs could make any movement in this work sound good, this is it. But it’s strangely mushy and wimpy. The shortcomings in the preceding two works are variations on the same themes.

Redemption comes in the great A minor quartet, though. I was really expecting this to be a let-down, but the Takacs pull it off! There is an intensity to their playing, both fast and slow, lacking in the previous works. The gigantic central movement is an unqualified success; it does contain that ultimately indefinable something; it is searching, moving, and beautiful. The conclusion, too, meets one’s expectations. The Op 135 opens in a most promising way, and the jaunty little second movement reinforces solid first impression, but alas the musical solidity weakens a bit in the last two movements. The third movement again lacks for enough musical depth, and the finale is filled with some extended chords in an obvious attempt to foster a sense of drama. It’s still a good performance, but it ain’t at the top of the heap.

Perhaps I’m being too critical. After all, all of the pieces are technically well dispatched, and the playing lacks the emotional impact of only the very best recordings. But then, these are Beethoven’s late quartets, and only the very best will do. I’ll be hanging on to the set and relistening to it – who knows, maybe it’s one of those recordings that takes time for one to appreciate – but for now I place it in the second tier, if you will. It’s not that lonely a place, what with the Juilliard’s 60s set also resident in this less exalted tier, but for the most satisfying recordings, I will listen to others. At least the Takacs recorded some astounding early and mid quartets.
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by graham55
Todd

Interested to read your comments. The set has been well reviewed on this side of the pond.

As to the general question whether the world needs another recording of the Late Quartets, I rather doubt it personally. But does that mean that, once (say) the Vegh Quartet had set down their readings - or, to take another example, Carlos Kleiber recorded the Fifth Symphony - in the 70s, no others should try? I don't suppose so. But it does mean that the bar is raised and that those who follow had better have something special to say.

G
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Peter Litwack
Hi Todd-

Thank you for your review. I have had a long love affair with these quartets, dating back to my days in Berkeley in the late 1960s. I used to comb through the used bins at Moe's Book Store to find copies of the early 1950s Budapest recordings (the Library of Congress ones), and learned these works listening to them. I always thought they were the best performances ever, but one usually tends to like the recordings one first listened to best - don't you think? I tried very hard to like the later stereo recordings the Budapest made in the 1960s, but found them a bit lacking in that "emotional impact". Is there a stereo set in your first tier that you would recommend to me? Thanks again.
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Todd A
quote:
Originally posted by graham55:
But does that mean that, once (say) the Vegh Quartet had set down their readings - or, to take another example, Carlos Kleiber recorded the Fifth Symphony - in the 70s, no others should try?



Oh, no, just because superb – indeed, almost definitive – recordings are made does not mean that others should not be made. Sometimes new recordings can match up to or even surpass older ones. Besides that, musical interpretation is an evolutionary process, and I for one am very much interested in hearing how the interpretation of masterpieces changes over time. Musical truth is never absolute. (BTW, I prefer the elder Kleiber’s take on the C minor.)



quote:
Originally posted by Peter Litwack:
I always thought they were the best performances ever, but one usually tends to like the recordings one first listened to best - don't you think?

Is there a stereo set in your first tier that you would recommend to me? Thanks again.



To the first point: not necessarily. I became familiar with LvB’s string quartets via the Cleveland Quartet, and while I still very much enjoy their recordings, they, too, are in the second tier, if you will.

To the second point: try the Vegh’s stereo cycle. It is a match for the Budapest Quartet in terms of overall quality, but their approach is definitely different.
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by graham55
Todd and Peter

I absolutely agree about the Vegh Quartet's recordings of the Beethoven Quartets, despite rather ordinary sound, presentation and CD pressings on Valois. I always thought it a shame that a company such as MFSL, or even Naim, didn't license them for CD production.

Have to disagree (in a friendly way, of course) on Beethoven Five, Todd. I think that Carlos trumped Erich good and proper. BTW, have you heard CK's Pastoral, released last year on Orfeo? The only time he ever conducted the symphony and a "bootleg" cassette recording to boot, but quite astonishing.

G
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Todd A
quote:
Originally posted by graham55:
BTW, have you heard CK's Pastoral, released last year on Orfeo?



Yes, and despite the obviously compromised sound (though it's still quite listenable), the performance is extraordinary. Kleiber is one of the few who can take such brisk tempi and make the work sound flowing and natural, as it were.
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Peter Litwack
Todd and Graham-

Thanks for the pointer to the Vegh recording. I used to have their LPs of the Bartoks and haven't re-purchased them on CD (I ditched all my LPs several years ago). Do you think the Vegh Bartok cycle is the one to get? I always enjoyed it, but haven't listened to very many cycles on CD.

Todd - I learned the late Beethoven piano sonatas through the Schnabel recordings (as well as tackling them myself!) and still haven't heard a set that matches them. Same thing with Cortot's Schumann recordings. Maybe it's just a co-incidence for me.
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Todd A
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Litwack:
Do you think the Vegh Bartok cycle is the one to get?


It's one of the ones to get - the others being the Takacs on Decca, the Hungarian Quartet on DG Originals, and possibly the Juilliard 60s set and the Emerson's set, depending on how one feels about those two ensembles. The Vegh is my favorite.

As to Schnabel, well, he's superb, but certainly one must sample Kempff (either complete cycle) and Annie Fischer. (And perhaps Gieseking on Tahra - not complete, but darned close, and with some extraordinary Opp 14, 31, and a few other sonatas.)
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Peter Litwack
Todd-

I used to have Kempff playing the big Schubert G major sonata (D. 894), and his playing was superb - my favorite interpretation of that sublime piece. I will check out his LvB. Thanks for the recommendation!
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by graham55
If you are going for a more modern set of the Beethoven sonatas, I strongly recommend Emil Gilels on DG. He died before he could complete the cycle (and, sadly, missed the very first and very last) but most of the rest is magnificent (I think).

G
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by Todd A
Ah, Kempff's Schubert: 'Tis sublime. I highly recommend getting his complete Schubert sonata cycle. It is one of the great achievements in recording history.

If you sample Kempff’s LvB, consider the earlier, slightly more expensive mono set, though you can hardly go wrong either way. Also consider either of the two Original Masters boxes devoted to Kempff, too. Great stuff.
Posted on: 27 January 2005 by graham55
Or then again, Philips have just issued a 6 CD set of Stephen (Bishop) Kovacevich's Beethoven recordings from 30 odd years ago. It is quite magnificent.

G
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by Earwicker
The Alban Berg Quartet make probably the best choice overall in my opinion. True, they sound a bit polished at times, but not to worry - it's better than the opposite scenario! I have a particular fondness for the New Budapest Quartet's recording of Op. 131, with some wonderful cello playing in the variations.

I'd also suggest the Koday Quartet on Naxos. They're all good, and their recording of Op. 130/133 is the one I tend to pick up. Imaginitive, superbly recorded, and absolutely top notch string playing and ensemble. They're all good, but this one is great.

The "famous" benchmark is, of course, the Busch Quartet. I must admit I don't "get it" with them. It's quite imaginitive, and their rhythmic sensitivity is impressive, but the technical standard is pretty lamentable, and I generally find the whole approach and execution rather crude. Worse still are the acclaimed Lindsays. Deplorable, third-rate tosh to my ears.

Call me predicatable, by the best recording of the piano sonatas on CD is Brendel's latest survey. Incomparable.

Earwicker
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by pe-zulu
the best recording of the piano sonatas on CD is Brendel's latest survey. Incomparable.

Earwicker[/QUOTE]

Much better and more classical in
approach is Brendels first recording
for Vox, and Arrau, Barenboim (EMI) or
John Lill, (ASV) and(of course) Gilels
and Kempff (DG 1950ties mono) and many
others. If you really do love these
sonatas, you need more than one
recording, and there is not a "best"
recording but lots of excellent
recordings.
Venlig hilsen
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by Earwicker
Venlig,

I agree... although I prefer the later Brendel.

Kempf is an artist whose recordings I'm in the process of discovering. I have his Schubert B flat, Schumann Kinderszenen but no Beethoven and I gather I'm REALLY missing out on his Liszt for Decca. I intend to put this to rights!!

EW
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by graham55
I remember about 10 years ago comparing Maurizio Pollini's 70s recordings of the late sonatas with Brendel's set of similar vintage. In my opinion, Pollini was streets ahead - and not just in terms of pianistic ability.

G
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by RossB
Todd, thanks for your review of the late quartets. I've been thinking about buying this set, but having been disappointed by the Takacs recording of the middle quartets (and it is rare that the Takacs disappoint in anything) I'm not surprised by your review and will take it off my buy list.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Quartetto Italiano, for my money the best recordings ever of the Beethoven quartets. The Italians' stately, intelligent, orchestral sound, along with the sharper, incisive playing from the Vegh Quartet, are probably the only two sets of the quartets I will need.

As for the sonatas, I agree with the comment about the Kempff set (stereo and, especially, mono), although I have been less impressed than Todd is with Annie Fischer's cycle. The Gilels recording is a bit of a curate's egg, with performances ranging from the plodding and strangely distorted (eg the pastoral sonata sounds like a funeral march), to some truly sublime playing (eg the Moonlight and Hammerklavier).

Graham, thanks for the heads-up about the complete Kovacevich set on Philips, which I will certainly be buying. I am a huge fan of this cycle, which I think is much better than his later EMI recordings, and have been picking these recordings up on vinyl and the sporadic CD reissues over the years, so it will be great to have them all in one box. This set should be regarded as amongst the greatest recordings, once it is better known.

Ross
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by pe-zulu
Brendel has recorded LvB pianosonatas three times, only Kempff has recorded them three times too.
Brendels first recording for Vox (1960ies) was very classical in approach, to the point of being self-effacing, but nevertheless good value.
Brendels second recording (for Philips 1970ies) was more individual, but not to the advantage of Beethoven,- a more mainstreamperformance as e.g. Polinnis being far superior.
Brendels third recording (Philips 1990ies -many takes are live performances) is even more individual, and sometimes he offers great insight, but he is indeed very special, I find him very interesting, but his performance is not a rendering to live with as the only one. To quote RdS: Brendels last movement of op. 111 is necrofile, (reeking of death- my addition).

"Venlig hilsen" is not my name, but is danish for "kindest regards".
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by graham55
Ross

I have the Italians' set on LPs, which have been sitting in my garage for the last seven years while I consider whether to spend rather too much money bringing my LP12 back to life. My recollection is that the Italians were indeed magnificent, but I think that Sandor Vegh and colleagues dig deeper into the music. Then again, the Italians' actual playing is miles ahead of the Vegh.

So how does that work?

G
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by Earwicker
quote:
Originally posted by pe-zulu:
Brendels third recording (Philips 1990ies -many takes are live performances) is even more individual, and sometimes he offers great insight, but he is indeed very special, I find him very interesting, but his performance is not a rendering to live with as the only one. To quote RdS: Brendels last movement of op. 111 is necrofile, (reeking of death- my addition).

"Venlig hilsen" is not my name, but is danish for "kindest regards".

I don't know what that means? I completely disagree, however. Brendel's latest recording of Op.111 is very close to my tired old heart. In the end it takes one to the very shores of paradise indeed. One starts here, and ends up there.

"Necrofile"? I can't begin to imagine what you mean!

EW
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by Earwicker
quote:
Originally posted by graham55:
Ross

I have the Italians' set on LPs, which have been sitting in my garage for the last seven years while I consider whether to spend rather too much money bringing my LP12 back to life. My recollection is that the Italians were indeed magnificent, but I think that Sandor Vegh and colleagues dig deeper into the music. Then again, the Italians' actual playing is miles ahead of the Vegh.

So how does that work?

G

The Italian Quartet were fabulous. I think their Schubert recordings are still the best.

There's always a discussion about quartets who are more technically able vs those who are allegedly more profound but don't play so well. There's a balance. I must say, just generally, some people seem to mistake blatant incompetence with deep insight: like the Lindsay Quartet playing Beethoven, or anything else for that matter. A barely competent college student would be ashamed of their string playing, and their whole approach is the work of the semi-professional. Their critical acclaim, however...!

Conversely, I despair of the fact that some people mistake technical élan for superficiality. It applies to all genres, but with string quartet playing in particular: I think both general and critical opinion alike has a long way to go. Proficiency does not equate to superficiality, nor does ineptitude equate to insight.

I tend to admire the Hungarian school of quartet playing the most. New Budapest, or Kodaly und so weiter. Of the big names, the Alban Berg are great, and if you can take their pace, the Emersons. I must hear more of the Takacs.

EW
Posted on: 28 January 2005 by graham55
EW

I hope that you don't find the Vegh Quartet's playing "incompetent". I've never bothered with the Lindsays, so can't contribute on that.

I do have the Quartetto Italiano playing Schubert on a Philips Duo. Matchless!

G
Posted on: 29 January 2005 by Earwicker
quote:
Originally posted by graham55:
EW

I hope that you don't find the Vegh Quartet's playing "incompetent". I've never bothered with the Lindsays, so can't contribute on that.

I do have the Quartetto Italiano playing Schubert on a Philips Duo. Matchless!

G

Sandor Vegh was an inspiration. I must seek out more of his recordings.

I too have the Schubert quartets by the Italians on Philips Duo; it is indeed, as you say, matchless. Highly recommended to anyone who's after a recording of these great works.

EW
Posted on: 29 January 2005 by pe-zulu
EW, let me try to explain.

In the first movement of op.111 LvB expresses
despair and anguish, perhaps fear of perdition.
In the second movement he expresses transfiguration and consolation. In this way the two movements are complementary. But Brendel in his last recording extend the fear and anguish to the second movement too, playing it in a strange macaber way, he almost wallows in expression of death, and we get no relief in the end, rather some sort of disintegration. So "necrofile" is to be understood figurative. Compare with the "heavenly song" of e.g. Kempff in the same movement.

Generally I think that Brendel in his last LvB-set has got a tendency to dissect the music into an intellectually very interesting, but often neither aestetically nor emotionally satisfying way.

Venlig hilsen
Posted on: 29 January 2005 by Earwicker
Pe-zulu,

Interesting points. I must admit I'm very keen to hear more of Kempff's recordings ANYWAY - especially in late Beethoven and the famous recording of Liszt's two Legends. His recording of the Schubert B flat major has certainly got me interested in hearing more of him.

Thanks for the analysis of Op.111; perhaps I'll end up agreeing when I've heard Kempff...?

Best wishes,
Earwicker
Posted on: 01 February 2005 by graham55
FAO Anna Tooth

How about my idea, mentioned above, of Naim remastering and selling the Vegh Quartet's recordings of the Beethoven String Quartets on CD? You'd absolutely clean up!

I shall expect a complimentary set for my brilliant idea.

G