More Nuno style deliberations...
Posted by: Top Cat on 17 March 2004
Hi folks.
First I was going to buy one, then I wasn't, and now I possibly am once again. This Fraim demon, it is very persuasive. AFter letting one s/h Fraim escape, another has turned up with teh right number of shelves at a reasonable (not cheap but not too dear) price.
My system:
LP12/Aro/Armageddon/Prefix K*
52/SC/250 (all recent Olive)
...into Audio Physic Virgo mkIII speakers.
Rack is QS Reference & mains is sorted, cables are Naim too.
Given that, if I can find a buyer for my 6-tier Oak QS Ref (configured as two seperate low racks and including a wall shelf bracket should its next owner require it), it will cost me around £1200-1400 extra to move to this 7-shelf Fraim, I could also move to a mkII 250, which would make the most sense? I won't do the Fraim switch unless I find a buyer for the QS, though the move to a new 250 would factor in a trade or private sale of the existing 250...
QS Ref->Fraim: cost £1400
250->250mkII: cost £1200
...nothing else needs changing, and I'm very happy with tt, cdp, preamp and all the other bits.
I know I said 'I'm done' but hey the demon won't go away, it keeps whispering in my ear...
So, as a kind of 'swansong' upgrade, which makes the most sense? My speakers are a relatively benign load (4ohm90db) and the QS Ref is a great rack in its own right.
Or, should I stick where I am and stop looking at s/h Fraims when they appear, or think about new 250s...???
Ta folks.
John
[This message was edited by Top Cat on Wed 17 March 2004 at 12:57.]
First I was going to buy one, then I wasn't, and now I possibly am once again. This Fraim demon, it is very persuasive. AFter letting one s/h Fraim escape, another has turned up with teh right number of shelves at a reasonable (not cheap but not too dear) price.
My system:
LP12/Aro/Armageddon/Prefix K*
52/SC/250 (all recent Olive)
...into Audio Physic Virgo mkIII speakers.
Rack is QS Reference & mains is sorted, cables are Naim too.
Given that, if I can find a buyer for my 6-tier Oak QS Ref (configured as two seperate low racks and including a wall shelf bracket should its next owner require it), it will cost me around £1200-1400 extra to move to this 7-shelf Fraim, I could also move to a mkII 250, which would make the most sense? I won't do the Fraim switch unless I find a buyer for the QS, though the move to a new 250 would factor in a trade or private sale of the existing 250...
QS Ref->Fraim: cost £1400
250->250mkII: cost £1200
...nothing else needs changing, and I'm very happy with tt, cdp, preamp and all the other bits.
I know I said 'I'm done' but hey the demon won't go away, it keeps whispering in my ear...
So, as a kind of 'swansong' upgrade, which makes the most sense? My speakers are a relatively benign load (4ohm90db) and the QS Ref is a great rack in its own right.
Or, should I stick where I am and stop looking at s/h Fraims when they appear, or think about new 250s...???
Ta folks.
John
[This message was edited by Top Cat on Wed 17 March 2004 at 12:57.]
quote:Cough... I'd rather not, I've owned enough of it in my time to realise when it's beat. If QS Ref can beat it, then Fraim must decimate it...
For Pete's sake TC get mana
Plus, of all the Naim systems I've heard, the worst were always on Mana. Which is largely why it took me so long to realise that the screechy, metallic Naim sound wasn't the Naim sound at all - but anyway, I digress.
My thread, don't want to waste it talking about ugly black angle iron...
John
Yo G.I. Joe,
Whaddya mean you "hear" that Mana make good supports? I thought you owned some Mana, or are you just trying to be your witty self
John,
You let one s/h Fraim get away from you and now you are thinking of letting another slip away??? Bad naimophile! Seriously, you could always buy it to try out and re-sell it without much of a loss if you wanted. Try that with a new 250.
Keep the olive system intact man!
Whaddya mean you "hear" that Mana make good supports? I thought you owned some Mana, or are you just trying to be your witty self
John,
You let one s/h Fraim get away from you and now you are thinking of letting another slip away??? Bad naimophile! Seriously, you could always buy it to try out and re-sell it without much of a loss if you wanted. Try that with a new 250.
Keep the olive system intact man!
quote:
I think John should get a Nait 2. I hear it's a crackling little amp.
Only "crackling" when the pots need replacing of course...
John
quote:
LP12/Aro/Armageddon/Prefix K*
What's the Asterisk for John?
Still to be fitted, perhaps?
Sorry John, big mistake,
You'll only end up doing this all over again in 6 months time. Just get the Fraim and know you've got the best you can get.
As a very simple demonstration of how good it is, see if you can borrow just a single Fraim base. Play your favourite demo on your current set up and then transfer your CD player to the Fraim and play it again. Then decide if you can make do with anything less.
Then and only then should you get a new pair of binoculars so that you can spend the time spying on your neighbours
Dave
You'll only end up doing this all over again in 6 months time. Just get the Fraim and know you've got the best you can get.
As a very simple demonstration of how good it is, see if you can borrow just a single Fraim base. Play your favourite demo on your current set up and then transfer your CD player to the Fraim and play it again. Then decide if you can make do with anything less.
Then and only then should you get a new pair of binoculars so that you can spend the time spying on your neighbours
Dave