To all classical music fans: It's time to explore the new and unknown.
Posted by: Todd A on 16 January 2001
By unusual I mean either works by secondary or even unknown composers, or lesser-known works by major composers. Beethoven’s symphonies would not be considered unusual whereas Max Reger’s string quartets would be, for instance.
And by “on a regular basis” I mean every few weeks, or every month or so. Come on, you know you want to. And with Naxos and Arte Nova out there, it doesn’t even need to be expensive. $5 -$6 US a month? A good cigar costs significantly more than that.
To show that I’m a good sport, I’ll go first. My disc is Chamber Music by Alan Rawsthorne on Naxos (forgot the catalog number). Is it good? Yes. There are five works on the disc ranging from the banal to the excellent. The Piano Trio and Melody for Violin and Piano are good if somewhat mundane. Certainly, I can think of worse things to listen to (Wagner, for instance). Moving up in quality, the Piano Quintet and Cello Sonata are both quite good - bordering on excellent, in fact - if not the pinnacle of their respective forms. The Viola Sonata, however, is truly excellent and makes for compelling listening. It makes the disc. Why has this piece not been recorded more often? Beats me. I’m hoping that Kim Kashkashian takes it up. Overall, I’d rate the disc a “buy” for fans of 20th Century chamber music. Were I to rate it on a 100 point scale, I might give it a 75 (a 95 for the Viola Sonata).
Anyway, there it is. I will post additional discs intermittently. Please join me in exploring the unknown. Or at least little known.
I know the Bruch double concerto, but only with clarinet and viola. Didn't know there is also a violin/viola version!
As to my viola playing, I did study it seriously, but am not now pursuing it as a career. I love playing chamber music and play in several amateur orchestras, though. Call me a "dilettante", in the positive sense of the word (at least I hope so...)!
So it's actually a clarinet / viola cto? I did not know that. That's about the most attractive, romantic combo of instruments (cf Mozart's Kegelstadt trio)!
I gotta have this.
Though I bet there's about zero recordings of this piece?
Herm
Well, yes, I think there are a couple of interesting recordings around.
There's, obviously Yuri Bashmet with Michael Muntian, in a coupling with Glinka on RCA. Bashmet has this tremendous deep & dark sound.
The other one, perhaps my preference, is Shlomo Mintz and Postnikova, unusually well recorded on Erato. It's a marginally more implicit version, with less drama on its sleeve. That's why I like it better. Also the coupling with the sibling Shostakovich Violin Sonata makes it pretty much unbeatable.
Anyone else any preferences for this haunting work?
Herm
I've tried to locate both of the recordings you recomend on Amazon, Crotchet, and HMV web sites and none of them can find them. Could these recordings have been deleted?
Stephenjohn
Well, Stephenjohn, I guess you're right. I checked at Tower and both the Mintz (Erato) and the Bashmet (RCA) appear to have been deleted. I'm sorry.
You may or may not have noticed, but this is pretty depressing music, after all.
In case you want to persist in your swan song pursuit, you could check stores that sell remainders (in fact I go there a lot). These are major labels; these issues don't just disappear.
And perhaps other forum members have other recommendations. There's this brunette violist Tabea Zimmermann on EMI who may have recorded this piece. However, no company is faster at deleting than EMI.
It's tough.
Good luck
Herm
Thanks again.
I disagree that it's depressing music. I think there is a quiet acceptance in the final movement and a paying of debts [to Beethoven] which is somewhat more restful than much of Shostakvich's than earlier angst and rage
Steve [Stephenjohn was the only user name I could get the site to accept]
Together with the Emerson recording of the Shostakovich String Quartets I got a disk with piano music by Leos Janacek, played by Andras Schiff. It's on ECM (New Series). (ECM 1736)
The program comprises "In the Mist," "Piano Sonata, 1 X 1905," "On an Overgrown Path," and "A Recollection."
I got the disk because of the Overgrown Path piece. It's a fascinating piece, especially if you've ever seen the choreography Jiri Kylian made to this music for the Netherlands Dance Theater (back in 1980). It's a piece for, say, twelve dancers, the set is two huge square panels forming the backdrop and there's a black rift in between. Nothingness. During the piece one of the dancers develops an attraction to the black rift, and then suddenly she's gone. Some people don’t even notice but it's heartbreaking. (Janacek lost a daughter.)
As ever, Schiff's playing is absolutely right. He's recorded Mozart, Bach, Haydn (love that Teldec double disk) and there's a different sound every time, because they're different musical worlds. This is a gorgeous recording, and a total must-have.
Oh, and Steve, about Shostakovich' Viola Sonata, sure, you're right. It's not really depressing (how could it be one of my favorite pieces?), but admit it's dark and gloomy. I don't mind that.
Herm
Yes, Schiff is one of those low-profile artists that are going to be interesting for their entire life, don't you think so? I for one am curious what he's going to sound like when he's 75.
Oh, and by the way, Todd, if I may ask, how's the CDX getting along? What're you hearing that you weren't hearing (apart from Madonna? )
Herm
For instance, I put on Riccardo Muti's recording of Scriabin's Poem of Ecstacy and the massive orchestral climaxes sound so much more controlled. With the 3.5 I heard a little glare and hardness, and with the CDX there was none. The dynamic range is astounding. This was confirmed when I listened to Pollini doing the Emperor. The tuttis were perfect; at no point did I feel like the sound was constricted. It was the first time I had that feeling. Ditto for Rachmaninov’s Symphonic Dances. The timpani strokes in the opening and closing of the work were presented with absolutely no compression, at least as far as the CD format will allow. And as for Daphnis et Chloe, well, let’s just say that now I know how it should sound – never having had the opportunity to hear it live. Don’t get me started on piano music – it almost sounded as though Evgeni Kissin gave a private recital, so startlingly clear and natural was the sound.
I will say that some of the "little" improvements include more, well, space (round-earth, I know, but what can I say). Each instrument seems more distinct than before in cases where solo passages are involved within the context of a large orchestral work. And one of the kickers on massed strings is that I can now easily hear the bowing in continuous passages. With the Emperor, I could the violins bowing back and forth whereas I could not before.
On the less august music I have listened to I can really hear the impact of the bass much better (who’d a thunk that my little VA Bachs could put out so much bass?) and everything just gels better. Sadly, my Zeppelin CDs were revealed even more than normal for the bad sounding discs they are – rolled off top end, mushy bass, boomy drums.
As for HDCD, well, I now know that I own at least two of them – both on Naxos: Samuel Jones’ Roundings and Charles Ives’ Second Symphony. Very impressive, indeed. (The Jones is better sounding.)
The last thing I must note is that the music was all presented in a more relaxed way – less Digititis, if you will – no doubt owing directly to the more controlled presentation.
well, I envy you.
Herm
I have no idea how or when I got to purchase the Peter Serkin disc with 20th Century piano miniatures ("The Ocean that has no West and no East") I talked about before. However it did get me hooked on the composer Toru Takemitsu.
So today I ran into another disc of Takemitsu pieces. It's called 'Rain Spell' and it's a collection of five different recordings of which 'Tree Line' (1988) is the best (so far). It's a 12 minute piece for the London Sinfonietta with major parts for oboe and clarinet. Conducted by Oliver Knussen (who composed a wonderful piano piece memorializing Takemitsu. It's on the Serkin collection).
Takemitsu is a natural heir to the Debussy - Messiaen line. (His dates are 1930 - 1996) Let's say he brings back Debussy's raptness, showing greater restraint than Messiaen, who straddles the kitsch-line too often to my taste. Ok, there's no way you're going to hear identifiable sonata-structures in Takemitsu, and sometimes it's a little mystical (but never as sacchirine as in Messiaen), but some of these pieces, especially from the eighties and nineties are ravishing.
The Serkin disc: Koch Int 7450
Rain Spell: HMV 5 73861 2 (budget price)
(A simple piece of advice would be: if either Knussen or Peter Serkin are involved, just get it.)
Bartok's Sonatas for Violin andPiano No1 and Solo Violin Sonata, recorded by Faust on Harmonia Mundi. Wonderful, Wonderful, Wonderful. And a real bargain too.
Hi Steve,
there's an intriguing bit of post-history attached to the Bartok solo sonata. For the 1964 Bath Festival Yehudi Menuhin commisioned the hot Royal Ballet choreographer Kenneth MacMillan to make a pas de deux to the Bartok.
The dancers were Margot Fonteyn and Rudolf Nureyev (who'd escaped to the West only a couple years back). They were about the hottest ballet duo imaginable at the time (even though in reality Fonteyn could have been Nureyev's mom).
So as they were choreographing / rehearsing on the last day before the performance news came that Fonteyn's husband had been shot in Panama.
They gave one single performance of the piece, Menuhin playing the violin, and after that it has never been done again. The piece is legend. There were no understudies, and dancers are a very superstitious race. There's a series, however, of wonderful photographs of the dancers in their glistening sylvan costumes that has never ceased to intrigue me.
Bye now
Herm
I think it was Steve (aka StephenJohn) who asked me to report on the Wuorinen Trios I had recently purchased.
The (Koch Int) disc comprises a bunch of Horn Trios (horn, vln, piano) and one straight violin, cello, piano Trio. All these compositions date from the early eighties, recorded in 1991.
I have 'studied' the straight piano trio, i.e. listened to it for a week regularly. It's very busy music; the material seems mostly piano-oriented, with a lot of fast drum-like figures.
[In the booklet Wuorinen explains (in an interview with Joan Peyser) he's kind of sceptical about the concept melody.]
Gradually, though, the trampoline character of the piece (10 minutes) emerges: so, first there's a full-fisted chord and the two string players sort of jump out of this with jittering figures, wheeling their arms, and then it's back to gravity again. And up again.
It ends with beautiful quiet flageolet tones and a deep dusky chord.
In a little while I'm moving on to the horn trios.
Anyone else heard interesting new music?
Herm
It sounds 'unusual'. Was it cheep?
I've got stuck in the Bartok. Can't stop playing the Sonata for Violin and Piano. Every now and then I break out and listen to the Wispelway Bach. Only the first Suite up to now. The Cello sounds superb, but what is he tapping?
Steve
I have some reservation about including a CD by Elliot Carter since I consider him a Great Composer, but since he doesn't sell gobs o' CDs, I'll include it. I recently bought a Nonesuch CD with his Piano Sonata, a couple songs, and ballet music entitled The Minotaur. Now here is a fine CD. The Sonata is "early" Carter and is quite accesible by his standards. Pity this work has not been recorded more often. Perhaps Pollini, his love of modern music being well-known, can be persuaded to record this work. The songs are interesting if forgettable. But The Minotaur, well, I am at a loss as to why this is not recorded more often. It is a fine ballet score, easily trumping Stravinsky's contemporaneous Orpheus. Oh, sure, it does not rise to the level of Stravinsky's major ballets (despite recent undue criticism of one of them) or Ravel's Daphnis et Chloe, but it is fine. The sound, from the early to late 80's is not the best available, but it is satisfactory. A very fine addition to my library, indeed!
The couplings for the Bartok and Berg pieces are, alas, not as successful. Norbert Moret’s En Reve occupies the remainder of the disc with Bartok’s sublime masterpiece. Perhaps because it follows such a cornerstone of the 20th Century repertoire it seems to suffer, but the work is not exactly essential listening. It is pleasant enough and surprisingly accessible for a modern work, but it does not enliven one’s listening space especially well. However, compared to Wolfgang Rihm’s miserable Time Chant it is a masterpiece. Time Chant is my first experience with Rihm, and sorry to report that I am not motivated to explore his other works as a result. The piece is not terrible, but it is terribly boring. It is SO slow and meandering and boring. I can deal quite nicely with slow pieces – I love Bruckner and Schubert’s late piano sonatas, not exactly swift works – but there must be compelling music to make it listenable. Did I mention the piece is boring? Were it not part of a set and coupled to Berg’s masterwork, I could do without this piece quite nicely. So, the Lutoslawski is the winner and the others are dispensable. I believe the original CD of the Stravinsky and Lutoslawski works is still available. It receives my highest possible recommendation.
Inspired by Mutter’s advocacy, I decided to explore more Lutoslawski, so I picked up Volume 6 of the on-going cycle of the Pole’s works on Naxos. A winner! Included are his First Symphony, the Chantefleurs et Chantefables, and some smaller works – the Silesian Triptych, Jeux venitiens, and the Postludium I. All are fine. The Symphony is very clearly influenced by Stravinsky, but since I am a Stravinsky fan I don’t find that a problem. He Chantefleurs and Triptych are both Song cycles and I actually enjoy them immensely, which is not too common for me. The other works are also exceptionally fine. All of the music is both astringent enough to be modern and poetic enough to be supremely enjoyable. Methinks I shall investigate more Lutoslawski. Soon.
When ordering other close-out items I accidentally receive a 1998 (!) disc of the complete music for cello and piano by Edvard Grieg and Frederick Delius played by Julian Lloyd-Weber and Bengt Forsberg on Philips. Not exactly deep, serious music, but, as you may have guessed, the music is beautiful and lyrical. Certainly a fine disc for weaker moments where unabashed, cholesterol-rich romanticism is needed. Or at least desired. If you can fond at $10 or less I would recommend buying it. I opted not to return it. (I paid five and a half bucks.)
What to make of the last disc of the batch? A while back I picked up the Naxos disc of some of Alan Rawsthorne’s chamber music and praised it highly. Upon several more listens, I enjoy the music rather more now than then. It really has grown on me. I thus decided to by the Gramophone award winning Naxos issue of the Symphonic Studies, Cello Concerto, and Oboe Concerto. Well, I can only write that I was somewhat surprised at the mediocrity of the disc. The Symphonic Studies that open the disc is the highlight. It is quite nice, with some attractive dissonance and string writing, but it is a second or third tier work at best. The Oboe Concerto is not worth a lengthy description. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. The Cello Concerto is roughly equivalent to the Symphonic Studies in stature, but its ten extra minutes make to seem to drag at times. I’d rank this disc as worth the asking price and no more. No super bargain here. Still, given what Rawsthorne could write I may venture to buy some other Naxos discs of his music in the hope that he can write larger scale works.
Steve
On a different topic - anyone catch the performance of George Crumb's Star Child last night. I'd not heard this before - a work for very very large and strangley placed forces. I was abit disappointed, not as way out a work as I expected, given the only other work I know which is Black Angels. Anyone heard any other of this guy's work?
David
I can assure you that Star Child was quite easy on the ear - I was even more surprised to hear that Boulez had conducted the first performance in the UK, which didn't go well and apparently dented Crumb's reputation badly.
Were you forced to listen to Birtwistle as a child, you sound somewhat prejudiced?
David