My First Velvet Underground

It's not possible to have too much Ornette or Ayler, that stuff is better than the finest medicinal quality psychotropic.

Alex, I mean it, you're this far from being asked outside for a duel...

-- Ian

While I'm at it, I don't like Robert Johnson's strumming and squealing either.

Ludwig, you utter swine, I get the feeling you've been stalking me in various music rooms.

If you say a bad word about Coltrane, you're in serious trouble.

-- Ian

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Stone Roses - Stone Roses

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An example of an album that couldn't possibly have existed without the Beatles. "Waterfall" aside, it's not very good either.

-- Ian

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Originally posted by sideshowbob:
Ludwig, you utter swine, I get the feeling you've been stalking me in various music rooms.

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Honestly- no. I just know your type.

I'll take a MIG fighter jet. You can have the inky blotting paper pellets.

-- Ian

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Originally posted by sideshowbob:
or definitively greater pop albums than Rubber Soul, or Revolver, or the white album, or Abbey Road

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How can I export the contents of my music collection .XLS to a forum post?

In the meantime, for starters-

Yo La Tengo - I Can Feel The Heart Beating As One

And I have KUNG-FU GRIP(tm).

Sssshhhhhhhhh, Alex. With any luck we scared him off to the (gag) Who thread.

I have gripping hands and realistic hair, just like Action Man.

As for YLT, let's see if anyone remembers them in 40 years time. I quite like YLT, but they're not the Beatles, or the VU for that matter, to get back on topic. (Since you like YLT, you'll definitely like the VU's Live 1969, btw).

As for "my type", whatever that is, tonight I've been listening to The Art Ensemble of Chicago, Throbbing Gristle, Augustus Pablo, Nurse With Wound, Lennie Tristano, and The Streets. Make of that what you will. Oh, and The Who are rubbish.

-- Ian

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Originally posted by sideshowbob:
As for "my type", whatever that is, tonight I've been listening to The Art Ensemble of Chicago, Throbbing Gristle, Augustus Pablo, Nurse With Wound, Lennie Tristano, and The Streets. Make of that what you will. Oh, and The Who are rubbish.

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Doh!

"It's not possible to have too much Ornette or Ayler, that stuff is better than the finest medicinal quality psychotropic"

Yeah but they're not a patch on Busted who RAWWWWKK

"[Stone Roses] an album that couldn't possibly have existed without the Beatles"

The Byrds surely?

Matthew

The Byrds, a group who, by their own admission, couldn't possibly have existed without the Beatles (and Dylan, admittedly).

-- Ian

I hope none of this implies that The Sugarhill Gang's the greatest hip-hop group of all time. Please tell me it's not so. Or would it be Run DMC because they sold a lot of albums? The possibilities are frightening!

Surely 'The Sugarhill Gang' invented hip-hop? Can you get greater than that?

Paul

The Last Poets?

P

Talking of influtential early proto-Hip Hip artists. There wasa most excellent program about Gil-Scot Heron on BBC4 last night and I noticed that he looked oddly like Arsene Wenger.

He was better than The Sugarhill Gang and I was also great to hear him lay into Reagan agin with "B Movie".

Matthew

PS Rap was of course invented by Debbie Harry and Blondie.

DJ Kool Herc, in all the histories I've read, but it's a grey area no doubt.

-- Ian

The amazing thing about the Beatles is not that they were highly innovative and influenced modern popular music to an astonishing extent (like the Sugarhill gang) or sold millions of records (like, er…Blue?) or produced wonderful music (insert your personal favourite here) but that they did all of these things. There are a few people who might have been as influential: James Brown, Kraftwerk, Osbourne Ruddock (King Tubby) and some Jamaican MCs or whoever you think invented Rapping. None of them sold large numbers of records. Plenty of people have sold more records but have negligible originality or influence (and the music is usually rubbish). Some might even have produced greater records – thankfully an impossible proposition to prove. I can’t think of anyone else who combined all three and that’s surely why people will still be listening to them in hundreds of years time.

duncan

Email: djcritchley at hotmail.com

A typical forum thread one guy asks about VU and then 5 pages completely off topic, with to quote mid 60s sitcom "jonathon miller talking bollox". More power to you all.
Any talk of Smiths being good is obviously a great example of the "great british sense of humour."

Howard

[This message was edited by BigH47 on Sat 12 June 2004 at 13:56.]

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Originally posted by BigH47:
Any talk of Smiths being good is obviously a great example of the "great british sense of humour."

Hopward

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Agree 100%. It's obviously farcical to refer to The Smiths as anything less than brilliant.

Rich

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Originally posted by Rich Cundill:

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Originally posted by BigH47:
Any talk of Smiths being good is obviously a great example of the "great british sense of humour."

Howard

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Agree 100%. It's obviously farcical to refer to The Smiths as anything less than brilliant.

Rich

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Rich
You missunderstands me I think.

Howard

The Smiths are the Greatest Band Ever. FACT.

Matthew

So, which was the best Beatles, Stones or Smiths LP by the Velvet Underground?



DS

OTD - Kreissel 99/16 - Galoppmusik

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Originally posted by Matthew Robinson:
The Smiths are the Greatest Band Ever. FACT.
Matthew

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Great, yes. But the greatest? You are obviously forgetting Lieutenant Pigeon, young Robinson.

Davie