Fascism Gone Crazy

Posted by: Berlin Fritz on 08 December 2004

Having honed my personal attitude to (fuck-em-and-be-damned-mode/generally) many
moons afore after posting an early piece on this forum regarding "Rubin
Hurricaine Carter's", long struggle for justice, and being (much to my suprise
at the time) recieved in certain quarter's as boring (Yawn) old hat, and a real
feeling of 'Fritz ! we need better stuff than this from our new members matey',
ie, 'we' don't wish to hear about such things here (my true impression at the
time - and very cliquey² it was too), well that was then; and now is now, innit.
"Fascism Gone Crazy", is what an Australian spokes-person was quoted as saying
very recently regarding Prime Minister John Howard's latest proposals to
radically change certain welfare laws. My interpretation of these changes are as
follows: (will no doubt be disputed or totally ignored by afore-mentioned group
?) Parents of children who are not regularly attending school, or who are
running riot all over the place will lose all welfare payments forthwith. These
'New' laws are/will be specifically targeted at the Indigenous Aboriginie
population, which at present (2004) is the most downtrodden Cultural Group in
the Country, and this will surely only make things worse ?
Irrespective of ones
opinions of these 'New' changes, in that some Aboriginie elders actually admit
it's time to stop feeling sorry for themselves and get on with things
'Aboriginie', much to the delight of certain Political persuasions no doubt ? If
we 'Once Again- YAWN³' lose sight/recall the British inspired Policies of other
Nations as well as Australia, ie, New Zealand, Canada, U.S., etc, etc, in
respect of rellocating ethnic children (dragging screaming kids away from their
parents on a big scale) in the 50's (well after WWII naturally, and what we
(Western Media) blame Muslim & others of carrying out 'Ethnic Cleansing', do we
not ?) and re-educating them in good Christian (mainly white) families) one
assumes these model Citizen's of today have no such Social problems and worries
about these 'New' methods will not affect them (the Norwegian- Nazi kids of
today come to mind also strangely enough, SHOCK-HORROR). I think wether an
arrogant ignorant bunch of murdering Serbian 'Soldiers ?' massacres thousands of
unarmed men and boys just a few years back, under the helpless eyes of Dutch UN
peace-keepers, or State Induced seperation on a massive scale, the ensuing
result is the same (This unwanted Ethnic Group becomes eventually non-existant,
or has been moulded into something we accept as part of us, and how we can
congratulate ourselves on such kindness to these poor uneducated folk, wether
it also be India or Africa too.
White €uropean 'Arrogance' laughably has
plundered the World in recent Centuries via the belief and justification that we
discovered it all, and I really don't think we'd ever know or admit the real
truth it it hit us smack in the face ? even with piles of absolutely
indisputable real up to date evidence acceptable in a modern court thrown in for
good measure (obviously there's far too much at stake, and we were the physical
victors/agressors afterall, innit). Wether or not you/I believe that some 90
years before Columbus hit America, thousand's of giant Chinese Junks sent
forward by the then Emperor around the globe (carrying up to a thousand men
apiece) had already been there, and done it, wether you/I believe the groups of
Chinese communities around the world in places unexplanable by our modern
cleaned-up oh so perfect fits into place history /(that we all learn't at
school) as they're timing's all wrong so to speak, and not taking away the
bravery of the likes of Maggellen, Cooke, Columbus, etc, who all (as I'm sure
many of you are aware ?) had rather nice maps to show them the way so
subsequently didn't actually discover 'Fuck All' in reality.
As British Prime
Minister Tony Blair's ex Scottish 'unelected-assistant' quite rightly proved the
BBC are lying bunch of 'Sensationalists', and were punished for it in Kangaroo
Sky TV Court , and as 99% of the above comes from yesterday's BBC World Radio
progs, one would/could safely assume it's all a load of old 'Tosh' too ? 3,000+
odd Beeb employeees will soon no longer be Beeb employees, so that's allright
then innit Rupert, who hates being critised and contradicted just as much as our
Tone does.

Fritz Von Berlusconi ! Who's he ?

N.B. I wrote this diatribe of nonsense early this moaning after awakening from a
dream telling me to do so ? Roll Eyes
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:

Fritz Von Berlusconi ! Who's he ?

N.B. I wrote this diatribe of nonsense early this moaning after awakening from a
dream telling me to do so ? Roll Eyes


Grrreat post Fritz! Big Grin

I thought a bit of punctutation coaching would have made it all the more powerful. But, one must accept these small lapses from an early morning sojourn at the keyboard by a truly caring person. Smile

I'd stay away from BBC World and Euronews. They give far too many rasons to hate this world's corrupt, cock-eyed, one-sided, set-up.

I see the Skynooz TV frontpersons now stand to show due respect while reading drivel about Posh and Breck's latest spat. It doen't get much more intense than this. Roll Eyes

Doesn't it all make one so cross? Mad

Regards
Nime
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Thanks for the comments Denmark !! Though "A good editor these days (like a good heart) is hard to find", just ask our Mat (with two tees & a doughnut).


Cheers anyway,
Fritz Von Longtrainrunnin Cool
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
Thanks for the comments Denmark !! Though "A good editor these days (like a good heart) is hard to find", just ask our Mat (with two tees & a doughnut).


Cheers anyway,
Fritz Von Longtrainrunnin Cool



Feargal! Great voice! Big Grin

Mat? Mott?

Try and get some sleep. Winker

Nime
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by JonR
Nime,

That'll be matthewr I suspect. Mr Fritz is often given to mentioning mr r and a certain old codger whose initials, oddly enough, are 'M.P.' in 'dispatches'.

What's the Danish news like?

JR
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by matthewr
Fritz,

For the third or fourth time of asking will you *please* stop mentioning me in your posts. As I've said before, I have no interest in conversing with you as I cannot understand what you say.

I have no wish to get in your way or stop you doing what you do but I do find your references to me rather disconcerting and rather like someone talking about me in my prescence but in a foreign language. I would therefore ask you to stop.

Matthew
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
I don't want to be in your club mattt old son, really.

Fritz Von Ifyouwantrespectearnit Big Grin
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
I really don't know who you are Sir ? But really I wish neither to be in your Clique nor Club honnist Guv, I usually just ignore things that don't agree with me (like most Telegraph wallers)so mebbeee you should do just that too, our Mattttt, innit !!! besides this is my thread and I'll do as I please, so there.



Frittz Von Fifewasarobinsonandheputitinhispipeandsmokedit Smile
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by matthewr
Fritz,

I just asked you not to stop talking about me as I find it rather disconcerting as I don't know what you are saying about me and I am not in any sense "your Matt".

However, you are quite correct, if you wish to carry on talking about me even though I made it plain I wish you would stop then that's up to you.

Matthew
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Fisbey
A club or group is defined by those who aren't members as opposed to those who are Roll Eyes
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Leaving ones mates behind for a bunch of 'yes men' journ/Wino's is bad enough,
but to actually seriously defend the issue with a vengeance is tantamount to
treason in my book. If one accepts the existence of Berlin Fritz, one doesn't
automatically become cool, knighted, or be pushed into it by the 'Powers that be', unlike top personalities appearing strangely enough on the Ali G Show (think about it, Why are they there ?) innit ?


Fritz Von Saturdaynightsboxingclashwillbehistoric²


N.B. Mrs Robinson continued trying to seduce Dustin well after the müwie; fuck, I'm glad I don't understand any of this stuff either, it's almost like being a question in a Private Eye crossword !!!

N.B.C. We're Jammin and jammin and jammin (early Radio Moscow !)

Pish: Thanks too, to Mr Micky the fish and his steruiotypical standard Thacherite resoponse to the Post Office business strategy, 2007 comes the Kaisers Post so no-worries mate, it will be sorted big style, Battenburg & Mountbatten are one of the same afterall, terrible news about the downed RN Lynx, sedly Canbadian Subs come to mind as well, it just should not happen. Frown

Fritz Von It'smythreadandi'llcryifiwantto

Fascism is just Italian Fashion :

Galloway(s) new boozer for the over-aged hangers on welcome; LOrds, Commons, and wibbly wobbly hoose closed until foither notice, innit.
Posted on: 09 December 2004 by Steve Toy
quote:
However, you are quite correct, if you wish to carry on talking about me even though I made it plain I wish you would stop then that's up to you.



Matthew,

I'm glad this particular reality has finally dawned on you Big Grin

Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
I'm not at all suprised that nobody has questioned the crux of this thread whatsoever, and no I don't refer to our Mat's pomposity either, innit.


Fritz Von Niceshirtjohn Razz
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by matthewr:
Fritz,

I just asked you not to stop talking about me as I find it rather disconcerting as I don't know what you are saying about me and I am not in any sense "your Matt".


Matthew


Could Our Deanne from the legal department possibly correct me if I'm wrong, but
surely our Mat wants me to continue adoring his sporting gems and other
attributes by his very own words, does he not ! or maybe he's just trying to
pull off a Clement Freud ?

Fritz Von Vladimirklischkoisaseriousopponent³ Big Grin
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by 7V
quote:
Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
I'm not at all suprised that nobody has questioned the crux of this thread whatsoever

Fritz,

I've reread the first post in this thread but I still find it difficult to understand what exactly is the crux of this thread. I believe that I'm not alone. Could you or someone else explain in simple paragraphs that I could more easily understand?

Steve M
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Fisbey
Seems pretty obvious to me;

hypocritical attitudes.

'They call me mister dynamite - I blow things up in black and white'
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by 7V
quote:
Originally posted by FISBEY:
Seems pretty obvious to me;

hypocritical attitudes.

That much I understand and of course I agree that there's a lot of hypocricy out there.

I don't understand what exactly Fritz asks us to comment on when he talks about no one questioning the crux of this thread. If someone could explain a little more specifically, I would be happy to give my views (FWIW).

Steve M
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Fisbey
I think he may mean that there's some hypocricy here too Roll Eyes
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Steve Toy
I guess if you (blindly) support a hypocritical government or ideology then that makes you a bit of a hypocrite, doesn't it?

Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Toy:
I guess if you (blindly) support a hypocritical government or ideology then that makes you a bit of a hypocrite, doesn't it?


Well.. if "you get the politicians you deserve" and the politicians are hypocrites... then...logically....we are all..er..yes.

Nime
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Mick P
Steven

There is no point in whinging, you will change nothing.

Become a local politician and get things moving.

It is about time you did something useful.

Regards

Mick
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Brilliantly slashing the jugular with that jagged tongue of yours as per usual our Mikey.

Fritz Von Respekt² Big Grin Bleedin Voters I ask yers !!!
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
By crux, I mean't Fascism going crazy and the connotations of its importance in the real world, obvious innit Tom ?


Fritz Von You'vegottapickapocketortwo Winker
Posted on: 10 December 2004 by Deane F
Fritzz

The Australian government has not been notably generous toward social minorities, refugees, or to the indigenous people of the country that the English colonised a couple of hundred years ago.

The initiative that you mention in one of the cruxes (Nick - I have no idea what the plural of "crux" is) of your initial post is far too little and far too late. If I recall correctly, Howard's argument is that civil liberties are of no use to people who have no liberties to begin with, so why should the govt value and protect their civil liberties above their well-being? Which I think is a specious argument, at best.

Any government's mandate in a democracy is rooted in honour. Honour forms the moral foundation for the exercise of power and gives the executive the authority to act without seeking the county's approval on each issue. Civil liberties are part of a basic agreement between the government and the people that a relationship of good faith is assumed at all times. Even the smallest breach of civil liberty must be backed up by a compelling and overriding need.

Deane
Posted on: 11 December 2004 by Nime
I've often thought that the reason minority groups can be held down so easily is their inbuilt desire to seperate into clans, tribes or gangs. It must be in the genes.

Just think of damage the Hispano/African-American poor could do if they stopped fighting each other and organised themselves properly! It would make Al Qaeda's efforts look like a mere pin prick!

Watching "187" last night has left me deeply troubled.

On another note: I would wish Howard's brain be transferred to an aboriginal woman by some accident of (Hollywood) fate. It would make a damn good film! Big Grin

Nime
Posted on: 11 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Hi Deanne,
You really shouldn't insult your own obvious intelligence and good
education by stating the bleeding obvious all over again mate. As no doubt in
New Zealand & Oz (many other places too naturally) the majority (I would guess )
of folks classed as anti-social welfare taking, lazy drunken, agressive parents
of ill-repute and no hope, belong to the mainstream group of 'Citizens' in that
Country. I would then say that Mr Howard's "NEW" Law requiring only Aboriginies
to get their acts together or lose all benefits (instead of the same law being
applied across the board) is tantamount to 'State Racism', and I'm sorry if you
don't see that, and I fully understand why somebody found the need to Publically
say they considered it 'Facsism gone crazy'.

Cheers for now, all the beast.

Fritz Von Haifafeelingyou'llhavesomethingtosayonthismatter ! Big Grin

P.S. Nice one Nime, Do you mean J.Howard or M. Howard ? Smile